Civil unrest ~ election results

[akarunway 1]

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You guys are all so coy; it's why we love ya. Youze. Y'all. Whatever.

Anyhow, henceforth the first Wednesday in November will be officially designated, "Hide your daughters from the Negroes Day."

There. I said it. Had to; you're all so coy.

Trying to start a riot? They are AFRICAN AMERICANS.

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[kelpdiver 2]

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It's not all that surprising. White Republicans do not really have a history of rioting when political or judicial events don't go their way. Other demographics, well, do.

You forgot about Florida in 2000, I think. They managed to make quite a scene, prevented vote counting until it was too late. The fact that the recounts done the following spring supported the end result of Bush winning the state is immaterial.

[FallingOsh 0]

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Bullshit. You people are exactly what is keeping this country from moving forward. I think you know it, and I think in a sick way you are proud of it, too.

What exactly do you mean by "you people?" Just kidding.

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Here's some ideas to help with the problem:

Maybe we should start rounding them up now. You know, since we're sure they're going to start riots if Obama loses. Maybe we should start branding them, that way they'll be easier to track. Hey, I know, if we assigned all of them to one of us to watch over, maybe call the responsible ones something like "master" it'll be easier to keep control of them.

What do you guys think? It'll be just like the good old days.

Wow dude. Overreact much? The OP clearly states that these contingency plans are being put in place by tactical forces in large cities. Nobody here called up the local police station and requested we start "rounding them up."

I'm not defending Birdlike's comments. Just saying that lashing out doesn't change the fact some cities obviously take it as a real concern. Am I concerned? No. Is it a real enough posibility that tactical forces need to be ready? Apparently.

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[juanesky 0]

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[quade 4]

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He was telling me about the training scenarios & contingency plans currently being studied in regard to the 'expected' civil unrest should the presidential election go to the retired fighter pilot.

Anybody else think this is weird in a real scary kinda way?

I'm curious if there are any plans being made in areas where White Supremacists operate if "the retired fighter pilot" doesn't win.

To my knowledge, there are not a lot of specifically anti-white groups trying to take over the country, but, I certainly AM aware of at least a couple of White Supremacist groups that think it's their "God given right." One of the leaders of one of these groups is also a former Republican Congressional Representative, "Christian" and the group was the KKK; his name is David Duke.

If you'd like to talk about which race actually holds the record for committing violence against the other . . . we can discuss that.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[masterblaster72 0]

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Randy Cunningham ?

he used to be able to scramble like no one else...

No shit!! I will remember this play for as long as long as I live...haven't seen one like it since.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

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I actually don't support a lot of the things that the Democratic party espouses. I just happen to think Obama will be a better choice for President at the current time than McCain. If McCain were the same man he was in 2000, I'd probably feel the opposite way.

I tend to be fairly conservative fiscally, am very much a believer in the Constitution (the whole thing, not just the 2nd Amendment), but am liberal socially. It is the quite astounding social backwardness of the Republican party that disgusts me. Especially the "covert" racism displayed by many of the more diehard types here in SC.

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What he said.

Blues,
Dave


What he said, again.

JerryBaumchen

[StreetScooby 5]

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I am not, myself, voting against Obama because of his race, by the way.

I would vote for Colin Powell in a heart beat.

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[StreetScooby 5]

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Bullshit. You people are exactly what is keeping this country from moving forward. I think you know it, and I think in a sick way you are proud of it, too.

WTF are you talking about?

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Maybe we should start rounding them up now. You know, since we're sure they're going to start riots if Obama loses.

Sounds like strategic planning to me.

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Maybe we should start branding them, that way they'll be easier to track.

Realistically, will the brands actually be recognizable at any reasonable distance? For this to be effective, it'll have to be prominent, and in a place they can't cover with clothes.

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Hey, I know, if we assigned all of them to one of us to watch over, maybe call the responsible ones something like "master" it'll be easier to keep control of them.

You're hired.

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[DanG 1]

Actually, the OP said that his "friend" claims that the city police force is developing specific plans to counter riots if Obama loses.

I very seriously doubt that this is true. Are police in large cities being trained in riot control? Of course. Is this training specifically because of fear of the coming race riots on the first Wednesday of November? I very much doubt it. The OP, or his "friend", has decided that police riot training (which probably occurs as part of the yearly training plan, regardless of the election schedule) is directed against a certain threat posed by black people.

I call bullshit. Before I believe this crap I want more than a "my friend heard about this stuff going on" type evidence. This is just more fear mongering and racism by the Republicans.

And you're right, I overreacted. Sorry.

- Dan G

[airtwardo 7]

Actually, the OP said that his "friend" claims that the city police force is developing specific plans to counter riots if Obama loses.

I very seriously doubt that this is true.

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In this case you'd be wrong.


Your prerogative to believe or doubt ANYTHING you care to, but anyone that knows me personally will undoubtedly attest I'm not the type to post in this forum as a pot stirrer.

*AND as far as "fear mongering and racism by Republicans" ...you're WAY outta line directing that comment to me.

Shake some of that sand outta yer panties 'cause you're still 'overreacting'...you infer that I'm a liar and a racist because I post a factual observation concerning a situation I find disconcerting on it face...period.

I haven't EVER voiced an opinion about either party in regard to this election...in fact I think BOTH candidates suck and can't believe we as a nation can't come up with anything better than these two yo-yo's.

I purposely didn't name the city because the discussion with my friend was likely not intended for public distribution...it just hit me in a strange way that something like that would be of such a civil peace keeping concern.

Of course in retrospect, it only makes sense that precaution dictates plans be in place.

But the point I was trying to make isn't one of specific political concerns but more of overall social condition.

...and the reason the discussion even came up with my friend, is because he was telling me the reason he would be unable to make a long planned get together during that week, when I will be in his area.

~~ All 'days off' that week have already been cancelled.

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[birdlike 0]

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I think it is prudent to plan for such a scenario, one which will play out if Obama is not elected.

Bullshit. You people are exactly what is keeping this country from moving forward.

Yeah, we just go out of our way to think bad things about blacks without having seen or read of anything to make us think this way.

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Maybe we should start rounding them up now. You know, since we're sure they're going to start riots if Obama loses. Maybe we should start branding them, that way they'll be easier to track. Hey, I know, if we assigned all of them to one of us to watch over, maybe call the responsible ones something like "master" it'll be easier to keep control of them.

Delightful little strawman you've constructed there! Will you put him out on the porch for Halloween?

I suppose it'd be too much for you to think back to who made all the trouble in '91 after the Rodney King verdict. OH. Yeah, THAT riot. And that was about a guy who pretty much deserved what he got because he was a scumbag and did not do what the law says people are supposed to do, which is obey lawful directives from the police.

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[birdlike 0]

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It's not all that surprising. White Republicans do not really have a history of rioting when political or judicial events don't go their way. Other demographics, well, do.

You forgot about Florida in 2000, I think. They managed to make quite a scene, prevented vote counting until it was too late. The fact that the recounts done the following spring supported the end result of Bush winning the state is immaterial.

What does that have at all to do with preparing in case the authorities have to deal with a violent breakdown of civil order?

Are you saying that following the 2000 election there was a violent breakdown of civil order? Where?

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[Andy9o8 2]

I didn't realize Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were tree-hugging, liberal Negroes. Learn sumpin' new every day.

[Gato 0]

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I suppose it'd be too much for you to think back to who made all the trouble in '91 after the Rodney King verdict. OH. Yeah, THAT riot. And that was about a guy who pretty much deserved what he got because he was a scumbag and did not do what the law says people are supposed to do, which is obey lawful directives from the police.

(Carefully climbs onto soapbox....)

Cops (sorry, SOME cops) stretch that "lawful directives" shit all the time, and there was a well-documented history of police brutality in LA county, an underfunded and understaffed force if ever there was one.

However, they do not have the right to beat the hell out of someone just because they're pissed at what he or she did. Police officers DO NOT have the right to punish ANYONE AT ANY TIME. Watch any episode of COPS where there's a chase - adrenaline rules, not cool heads or superior training.

Granted, if you throw a punch at a cop, you may deserve what you get, but having 7 officers beat you with clubs and kick you while you're on the ground BECAUSE OF THAT ONE PUNCH is just fucking bullying.

This is the same mentality that calls hitting a cop car with your car "attempted murder."

One of my former students is a P.O. in a well-known town around here, and he admitted to me that he and a few of his fellow officers regularly break up 2-person bar brawls by knocking the shit out of anyone in the club that doesn't hit the floor when they come in and yell, "Everybody down!!"

READ: Even if you're not fighting, if you don't do what they say, they will crack your jaw with a fist, or hamstring you with a nightstick. (I'm not exaggerating any of this, by the way.)

Don't get me wrong here - I have bags and bags of respect for anyone who dons a badge in the name of protecting our citizens, but your badge doesn't give you carte blanche to abuse people.

As to the possible riots as results of the election, I don't think we have anything to worry about - unless we have a repeat of the 2004 fiasco. Then, we're all fucked.

(Carefully climbs down from soapbox....)

T.I.N.S.

[wmw999 2,588]

You're really salivating at the thought of justification for those racist statements, aren't you?

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Shotgun 1]

You know, with the tone of the McCain campaign (and their supporters) lately, it's sounding like there is more likely to be violence if McCain loses.

[Amazon 7]

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You know, with the tone of the McCain campaign (and their supporters) lately, it's sounding like there is more likely to be violence if McCain loses.

The christian identity and racist militias will grow with a vengeance. They seem to have been very very quiet for the last 7 years. I predict a resurgence if Obama is elected.

[Andy9o8 2]

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You know, with the tone of the McCain campaign (and their supporters) lately, it's sounding like there is more likely to be violence if McCain loses.

That's no joke. On the FoxNews website this morning (surprise! I read that, too), there was a story entitled, "What do you plan to do if the election is stolen?" I don't think the question was targeted at a generic audience.

[kelpdiver 2]

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You know, with the tone of the McCain campaign (and their supporters) lately, it's sounding like there is more likely to be violence if McCain loses.

It's become an increasing concern to me, as their campaign has gotten so desparate.

At the very least a lot of wives (and some husbands) are getting beaten that Tuesday.

[Andy9o8 2]

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You know, with the tone of the McCain campaign (and their supporters) lately, it's sounding like there is more likely to be violence if McCain loses.

It's become an increasing concern to me, as their campaign has gotten so desparate.

At the very least a lot of wives (and some husbands) are getting beaten that Tuesday.

Well, when Hillary finally conceded (I supported Edwards, then Obama, but never Hillary), I got the shit kicked outta me by my wife & 2 daughters. So fair is fair.