SpeedRacer 1 #1 September 5, 2008 I was just reading this thing about Barry Goldwater & how he got pissed off during the '80s because of the rising influence of the Religious Right in the Republican party. So if you generally vote Republican: do you feel as Barry Goldwater does & want the Relgious Right to f&*k off, or do you think that the Religious Right element is good for the Republican party, or what? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #2 September 5, 2008 Although I'm not a republican, I do not like the idea of a religion running my country.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #3 September 5, 2008 I rarely vote republican, but I do like McCain better than Obama and will probably vote Republican this time. (I know I'm outside of your stated parameters...lol) I am DISGUSTED by the religious right. BTW...several years ago a friend gave me a bumper sticker that said "The Religious Right is Neither." It's on my guitar case...lol. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 September 5, 2008 It is a misleading term used by those that do not want to have any self responcibility when it comes to matters that are considered moral. IE: It is societyies fault."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #5 September 5, 2008 QuoteIt is a misleading term used by those that do not want to have any self responcibility when it comes to matters that are considered moral. IE: It is societyies fault. Wrong again.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #6 September 6, 2008 They annoy the hell out of me. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #7 September 6, 2008 I find them annoying and sometimes wrong. I believe in the separation of Church and State, however I don't think that means there should be an expectation of separation of faith and politics though. I think many of these morality issues that get brought up should be handled outside of federal government, and even state government.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #8 September 6, 2008 QuoteI was just reading this thing about Barry Goldwater & how he got pissed off during the '80s because of the rising influence of the Religious Right in the Republican party. So if you generally vote Republican: do you feel as Barry Goldwater does & want the Relgious Right to f&*k off, or do you think that the Religious Right element is good for the Republican party, or what? It's great for the Republican Party, as it boosts the Limbaugh GOP fat cat Republicans. If the GOP didn't have the RR, they would not win a lot of elections today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #9 September 6, 2008 Quote Quote It is a misleading term used by those that do not want to have any self responcibility when it comes to matters that are considered moral. IE: It is societyies fault. Wrong again. Please refer to billvons elitist and arrogance thread"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #10 September 6, 2008 I'm not a Republican. However, I think that the "religious right" is something that prevents me from being a Republican. Note - this is much the same as the Democrats - the secular left, whom I believe are as anti-religious as the right it religious, upsets me, too. I get as pissed off by the extremely secular as the extremely religious. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #11 September 6, 2008 I suppose that would depend on how you defined the religious right. The anti-religious nut cases on the left tick me off just as badly as religious fanatics on the right, truth be told. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #12 September 6, 2008 *** I'm not a Republican. However, I think that the "religious right" is something that prevents me from being a Republican. Note - this is much the same as the Democrats - the secular left, whom I believe are as anti-religious as the right it religious, upsets me, too. I get as pissed off by the extremely secular as the extremely religious. There are superior people out there. Where modern conservatives and modern liberals fail is in believing that they have the authority to determine who these people are. Re: [SpeedRacer] Republican supporters: How do you feel about the Religious Right? - I suppose that would depend on how you defined the religious right. The anti-religious nut cases on the left tick me off just as badly as religious fanatics on the right, truth be told. --- cool. I lean to the left of you guys, but I'm a Christian, and yet I feel the same way. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #13 September 6, 2008 Religion has no place in US politics. People have the right to go to chuch when ever they like, pray all they like, teach thier own children what ever they choose and live thier life based on what ever beleif system they like as long as it does not interfere with mine. When people want to make laws based on the supernatural I thinks it's crazy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #14 September 6, 2008 QuotePlease refer to billvons elitist and arrogance thread Yes indeed. You are both incredibly arrogant and extremely elitist to think that only people who believe as you do are 'moral'.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alw 0 #15 September 6, 2008 Religious extremism is there and hard to neutralize and in my opinion is a hurdle to societal harmony. Having said that the extreme socialism on the left is to them a religion and balances the social scales but probably does not get the same media attention. Finally, to say that religion has no place in government fails to observe the reality of the global socio-political situation. Here in the USA,one nation under God, in God we Trust, so help me God. we would not be the country we are without it (good or bad). Shia law is the law of the land in some countries. I wonder how the Vatican responds to questions about religion in government. Take religion out of politics and you take humanity out of politics. Take extremism out of politics and you improve society. I won't see either in my lifetime. --------------------------------------------- Every day is a bonus - every night is an adventure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #16 September 6, 2008 QuoteReligious extremism is there and hard to neutralize and in my opinion is a hurdle to societal harmony. Having said that the extreme socialism on the left is to them a religion and balances the social scales but probably does not get the same media attention. Finally, to say that religion has no place in government fails to observe the reality of the global socio-political situation. Here in the USA,one nation under God, in God we Trust, so help me God. we would not be the country we are without it (good or bad). Shia law is the law of the land in some countries. I wonder how the Vatican responds to questions about religion in government. Take religion out of politics and you take humanity out of politics. Take extremism out of politics and you improve society. I won't see either in my lifetime. Most of the ugliness that was/is in America originated from that Christian core to which you speak. The further the government strays from Christianity/religion the better off we'll be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Take religion out of politics and you take humanity out of politics. Yea: - Salem witch hunts - Antimiscegenation laws - Racial Discrimination - State-sponsored execution, esp juvenile - a few of the beauties that came from our friend, religion.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martlet 0 #17 September 6, 2008 It's important not to confuse the religious right with extremists. Many people who make up the religious right are simply believers who also place the Constitution as their number one priority in politics, not religion. Obama, and many other Democrats, are regular church goers. Are they the "religious left"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #18 September 6, 2008 QuoteIt's important not to confuse the religious right with extremists. Many people who make up the religious right are simply believers who also place the Constitution as their number one priority in politics, not religion. Obama, and many other Democrats, are regular church goers. Are they the "religious left"? Religious fanaticism comes in shades, I agree, so I'm not addressing Christians who wish to keep their beliefs generally private and personal, just the ones that want to legislate it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #19 September 6, 2008 There is no such thing as Shia law. There is such a thing called Sharia law. Shia is a branch of Islam predominate in Iran and Iraq. Sharia law is what is practiced in our good friend Saudi Arabia's country. The problem is what some consider acceptable levels of religious influence in our country, I say zero and would prefer to see it based on science and not a book that is 2000 years old. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomSpoon 4 #20 September 7, 2008 If you're disgusted by the religious right you should know that McCain's choice of Sarah Palin for VP instead of one of his good friends Joe Lieberman or Tom Ridge was due to pressure from them [the religious right] who threatened to make trouble for him, according to the New York Times. In other words he caved. So much for the maverick. Before Palin I would have considered votng for McCain ,but we don't need another evangelical christian in the white house who believes the world is 6000 years old. Let's face it . The chances are fair that she would eventually be president if elected VP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #21 September 7, 2008 I tend to vote for Republicans over Democrats because I can't stand what the Democrats tend to support, ideologically. So I guess that qualifies me to answer the question as a "Republican supporter." My answer is, I can't stand the "Religious Right." I dislike all religion very strongly, and I just don't get with people who fall for it. When I vote for Republicans (when I do), I usually am holding my nose about their ties to religion. It just so happens that about a bunch of other issues, they see things far closer to my way than the Democrats do.Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomSpoon 4 #22 September 7, 2008 QuoteIt's important not to confuse the religious right with extremists. Many people who make up the religious right are simply believers who also place the Constitution as their number one priority in politics, not religion. And their are many who's ultimate goal is a christian theocracy. http://www.theocracywatch.org/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #23 September 7, 2008 QuoteIf you're disgusted by the religious right you should know that McCain's choice of Sarah Palin for VP instead of one of his good friends Joe Lieberman or Tom Ridge was due to pressure from them [the religious right] who threatened to make trouble for him, according to the New York Times. Link please.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #24 September 7, 2008 Quote My answer is, I can't stand the "Religious Right." I dislike all religion very strongly, and I just don't get with people who fall for it. I'm curious to hear what you don't like about buddhism. Just curious. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #25 September 7, 2008 Let's face it . The chances are fair that she would eventually be president if elected VP. I don't think I'd change my vote out of fear that McCain might keel over in the next 4 years. He's 72, and I bet he gets decent preventive medical care. :) linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites