Bristol Palin is pregnant

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Wow, you, Billvon and Amazon are really having problems with reading comprehension today. Being Pro-Choice is pro-abortion, no matter how hard you try to make a distinction to quiet your consciences. The statement "I would never choose abortion myself but I would never stop anyone else from having one." is the same logic as "I would never steal, but I would never stop anyone else who chooses to steal." It's guilt by omission.

Ridiculous. I'm anti-abortion, but pro-choice. I think abortions indicate a gross amount of irresponsibility, other than abortions to save the mother's life. But the key is, do we legislate the right to have an abortion or legislate the prohibition of same?

the correct stance is to leave it up to the states AND have NO federal funding of abortion clinics.

Yea, probably. Altho I want to limit states rights and am for centralized gov, as lomg as the fed controls the legality of it, the states can do what they want..... I guess.

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All he can do is control himself, he is only responsible for what he does, how he acts, so your perceptions based upon conjecture and assumption are typical of what I expect, none the less patently flawed.

And if he left a gun under his car seat and a criminal stole it, he is not responsible for what the criminal does now with the gun.

THANK YOU.

Probably not, could be criminal or civil negligence, but your attemot to draw an analogy is way off.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>You are under just as much burden to somehow "prove" that Obama's reticence is due to his having "class" as I am to prove that it's due to his knowing that he doesn't need to say personally say anything in order to benefit from the smearing that will probably be done by other Dem pundits.

No I'm not. I give people the benefit of class until "proven"otherwise.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Why can't you note that I never said it's NOT because he has class, I said that it COULD JUST AS EASILY BE because of what I said?

Do you mean to say it's becuase you never said he didn't have class?


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You STATED that he remained quiet because of class. You did not say, "Hmmm, maybe he's quiet about this because he has class."


Now that is semantic. The guy has demonstrated class and has class by all accounts I've seen, can you show otherwise by observing his actions, hearing soundbites, etc?


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Now you attempted to flip this around and make it seem that I was the one who was making unequivocal assertions.

You make inferrences that he isn't a classy guy, I simply disagree.

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IF you are correct, I still fail to see that having your daughter's illegitimate pregnancy headlined on every front page in the world in order to further Mom's career is a good example of "family values".

I agree, and I also agree that it doesn't sound like Palin was examined very thoroughly before McCain made his choice. I think it was a desperate move to secure the evangelical vote, without much thought as to whether she was capable of running the country if she has to. (And hypocritical, after using the inexperience thing to bash Obama.)

Right, and the thing was, he already had the thumper vote, he needed the moderate swing vote.

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he already had the thumper vote

He really did not.

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We can't assume that her mother was a bad parent or that Bristol was left ignorant of birth control, since we are not privy to the private conversations between Bristol and her parents.

Kids make decisions independent of their parents all the time, and at seventeen, most teenagers are pretty much thinking for themselves. Failing to instill your own values in your children doesn't make you a bad parent. Eventually, children grow up and accept or reject the values their parents have tried to give them, and sometimes kids with the best parents screw up, and sometimes kids with the worst parents succeed in spite of them. Children are more than a reflection of their parents, and there is no set recipe for parenting that will turn out a perfect child.

I wish Bristol the best of luck with her baby, even though I'm not voting for her mother.

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he already had the thumper vote

He really did not.

So the thumpers were going with Obama?

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he already had the thumper vote

He really did not.

So the thumpers were going with Obama?

There is such a thing as low voter turn out you know....

Remster

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>You want to believe his "class" even though it's obvious that he can
>stand by and say nothing, and posture himself as Palin's defender while
>other Democrat attack dogs and spindrivers make the insinuations and
>jabs and character assassinations.

I LOVE the conspiracy-theory spin! You can use this anywhere. Palin? She's supporting her kid but it's all a big act, to provide cover while she sets republican attack dogs to destroy her daughter's life to prove that the GOP doesn't support premarital sex. She'll let them make the attacks and insinuations and jabs and character assassinations while she pretends to support her! What an evil hypocrite.

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And how would you know if this happened with Chelsea Clinton? The Clintons are all for abortion.

There seems to be a logical disagreement between those two sentences.

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

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>You want to believe his "class" even though it's obvious that he can
>stand by and say nothing, and posture himself as Palin's defender while
>other Democrat attack dogs and spindrivers make the insinuations and
>jabs and character assassinations.

I LOVE the conspiracy-theory spin! You can use this anywhere. Palin? She's supporting her kid but it's all a big act, to provide cover while she sets republican attack dogs to destroy her daughter's life to prove that the GOP doesn't support premarital sex. She'll let them make the attacks and insinuations and jabs and character assassinations while she pretends to support her! What an evil hypocrite.

Wow, you really are (think you are) on the inside !!!!!!!

Talk about a big act and being hypocritical!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>Talk about a big act and being hypocritical!

And this morning's first WHOOSH goes out to RushMC, who just (inadvertently, I am sure) proved the point I was making.

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>Talk about a big act and being hypocritical!

And this morning's first WHOOSH goes out to RushMC, who just (inadvertently, I am sure) proved the point I was making.

I AM with you billvon but, I was able to make my point as well

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>Talk about a big act and being hypocritical!

And this morning's first WHOOSH goes out to RushMC, who just (inadvertently, I am sure) proved the point I was making.

I was able to make my point as well

Dreaming again?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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>Talk about a big act and being hypocritical!

And this morning's first WHOOSH goes out to RushMC, who just (inadvertently, I am sure) proved the point I was making.

I believe in this case it's the perris jet up and running while you're sitting on the green.

It's obvious that Obama would gain nothing from joining the dogpile on the 17 yo, and that the media, family values nuts, and anti family values nuts would do just fine.

It says nothing about his class. By some twisted logic, Lucky sees that declaration as a claim that he is in fact unclassy, but it's a neutral event.

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>It's obvious that Obama would gain nothing from joining the dogpile on the 17 yo . . .

>By some twisted logic, Lucky sees that declaration as a claim that he is in fact unclassy, but it's a neutral event.

Absolutely. (Although I think you meant Jeffery, not Lucky.)

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he already had the thumper vote

He really did not.

So the thumpers were going with Obama?

There is such a thing as low voter turn out you know....

And don't forget about Bob Barr. Even if he takes a few of the R-base votes from McCain, it could be a decisive factor.

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Yet another indication that they're still in the process of vetting Sarah Palin?

Sarah Palin: AWOL from Sunday circuit
by Mark Silva

A couple of major political parties have just finished nominating their candidates for president and vice president. Pretty proud, they both are.

So everyone will show up at the Sunday morning news talk shows, right?

Wrong.

Where in the world is Sarah Palin?

As our colleague, Don Frederick, notes at Top of the Ticket, Palin is a no-show on the Sunday shows.

Barack Obama, the Democratic nominee for president, will appear on ABC This Week with George Stephanopoulos. Joe Biden, Obama's running mate, will appear on NBC's Meet the Press. John McCain, the Republican nominee for president - isn't it nice to be able to stop saying, presumptive? - will "Face the Nation'' on CBS.

There are a few cable networks out there with Sunday morning news shows. Funny they haven't booked Palin.

Maybe not so funny: McCain campaign manager Rick Davis has indicated that they aren't "in any hurry to slot Palin for a Sunday show appearance,'' Frederick notes, "and will do so only if he and other strategists determine it serves the ticket's purposes, not because some may view it as a required initiation for a major political player.''

Appearing on MSNBC's Morning Joe, Davis said, "I'd never commit to anything in the future. ... Our strategy is in our hands, not the media's. We're going to do what's in our best interests to try to win the election. If we think going on TV news shows are [sic] in our best interests, we'll do it. If we don't, we won't."

So, maybe putting Sarah Palin out there in public where she has to answer questions from a reporter, as opposed to running circles around a fast-reeling TelePrompTer, isn't in McCain's "best interests?''

Palin, conspicuous by her mere absence: This booking strategy may speak volumes about the McCain campaign's confidence in the governor from Alaska.

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This is not a repeat from 2008: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/06/25/bristol-palin-says-she-pregnant-again/29293701/

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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ryoder

This is not a repeat from 2008: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/06/25/bristol-palin-says-she-pregnant-again/29293701/

Palin Family values agin....

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Didn't she just marry a medal of valor recipient?

Oh, wait...never mind.

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Bristol later became an "ambassador for abstinence," even though she admitted in an interview on Fox News that abstinence is "not realistic" in the modern era, especially among young people. Still, she said, teens should avoid having sex.

So there's that.

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Bristol later became an "ambassador for abstinence," even though she admitted in an interview on Fox News that abstinence is "not realistic" in the modern era, especially among young people. Still, she said, teens should avoid having sex.

So there's that.

Well, she isn't a teen.

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ryoder

This is not a repeat from 2008: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/06/25/bristol-palin-says-she-pregnant-again/29293701/

Who cares?

lisa
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FB 1023
CBDB 9

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oldwomanc6

***This is not a repeat from 2008: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/06/25/bristol-palin-says-she-pregnant-again/29293701/

Who cares?

I would think all those afflicted with a severe case of family values Tea Baggery might care if the hypocrisy did not run so exceedingly deep within that segment of society.