rushmc 23 #401 September 4, 2008 Quote Damn. Giuliani is tearing Obama apart. That N.Y. attitude, I suppose. I am not really a Giuliani fan. His speach is OK IMO. Factully ok too. Really waiting for Palin. I think her's will be funYou are right though"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #402 September 4, 2008 Rudy just got it right about the future. This is why I think she is being attacked at the level she it. First woman president? Maybe? Got to be dam scary to the left..."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #403 September 4, 2008 QuoteNot in this case. Lyda Green, the head of the Alaska Senate (and a republican) Yeah....To bad Obama's VP candidate does not think Obama is ready to be President. To bad once Dem VP candidate Lieberman thinks Obama is not qualified. So I guess you are right."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #404 September 4, 2008 Quote Quote Not in this case. Lyda Green, the head of the Alaska Senate (and a republican) Yeah....To bad Obama's VP candidate does not think Obama is ready to be President. To bad once Dem VP candidate Lieberman thinks Obama is not qualified. So I guess you are right. oh, gotta leave a mark"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #405 September 4, 2008 >To bad once Dem VP candidate Lieberman thinks Obama is not qualified. Yep, that's happening on both sides of the aisle. (Of course, since Lieberman once begged Obama to support his presidency, that's just as likely to be sour grapes.) One difference, though, is that Green is saying she is not ready NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #406 September 4, 2008 Quote >To bad once Dem VP candidate Lieberman thinks Obama is not qualified. Yep, that's happening on both sides of the aisle. (Of course, since Lieberman once begged Obama to support his presidency, that's just as likely to be sour grapes.) One difference, though, is that Green is saying she is not ready NOW. Who the hell is Green???Green sour grapes billvonI love the Green cherry picking"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #407 September 4, 2008 >Palin treatment sexist Didn't take them long to play the gender card! In a perfect world, these two VP selections would end a lot of the bickering in the political arena. Obama can no longer claim to be "all about change" after picking a Washington insider, and the McCain campaign will look like hypocrites if they go after Obama's lack of experience or accuse him of playing the race card, after choosing a low experience VP and trumpeting her gender. (I don't have very high hopes though.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #408 September 4, 2008 >Who the hell is Green? Reading before you reply will reap you great rewards, paduan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #409 September 4, 2008 Quote>Palin treatment sexist Didn't take them long to play the gender card! .) OOohhhh, nice try but who played it sir??"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #410 September 4, 2008 Quote >Who the hell is Green? Reading before you reply will reap you great rewards, paduan. Gotta give you that one"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #411 September 4, 2008 >OOohhhh, nice try but who played it sir?? So far Huckabee and McCain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #412 September 4, 2008 Quote>OOohhhh, nice try but who played it sir?? So far Huckabee and McCain. Just skimmed the post?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #413 September 4, 2008 Quote Quote >Palin treatment sexist Didn't take them long to play the gender card! .) OOohhhh, nice try but who played it sir?? Race card? Bill Clinton in the Dem primary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #414 September 4, 2008 There are those that use change to promote their careers and then, there are those who use their careers to promote change. Good line? ya Powerful? ya"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #415 September 4, 2008 >There are those that use change to promote their careers and then, >there are those who use their careers to promote change. And the republicans hang their hat on Obama's slogan. The circle is complete. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #416 September 4, 2008 Quote >There are those that use change to promote their careers and then, >there are those who use their careers to promote change. And the republicans hang their hat on Obama's slogan. The circle is complete. And Obama has hung himself on it long ago"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #417 September 4, 2008 So McCain, who by all objective measures agrees with Bush 95% of the time, has stolen the "change" slogan from his opponent's campaign. Excellent entertainment courtesy of John McCain, aviator extraordinare. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #418 September 4, 2008 How do you suppose McCain will reconcile his criticism of Obama's call for windfall taxes on oil companies with his running mate's implementation of just such a tax? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #419 September 4, 2008 QuoteSo McCain, who by all objective measures agrees with Bush 95% of the time, has stolen the "change" slogan from his opponent's campaign. Excellent entertainment courtesy of John McCain, aviator extraordinare. Well, I dont know about that and you do stretch this well but, if one does look objectivly McCain Palin would look to be "change" more thatn Obama Biden."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #420 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteSo McCain, who by all objective measures agrees with Bush 95% of the time, has stolen the "change" slogan from his opponent's campaign. Excellent entertainment courtesy of John McCain, aviator extraordinare. Well, I dont know about that and you do stretch this well but, if one does look objectivly You should try it sometime. You could start by looking at the LIES Bush told about WMDs and the Iraq-AQ link.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #421 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteSo McCain, who by all objective measures agrees with Bush 95% of the time, has stolen the "change" slogan from his opponent's campaign. Excellent entertainment courtesy of John McCain, aviator extraordinare. Well, I dont know about that and you do stretch this well but, if one does look objectivly McCain Palin would look to be "change" more thatn Obama Biden. I asked this earlier this week. What changes has McCain proposed from what we're currently doing? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #422 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteSo McCain, who by all objective measures agrees with Bush 95% of the time, has stolen the "change" slogan from his opponent's campaign. Excellent entertainment courtesy of John McCain, aviator extraordinare. Well, I dont know about that and you do stretch this well but, if one does look objectivly McCain Palin would look to be "change" more thatn Obama Biden. I asked this earlier this week. What changes has McCain proposed from what we're currently doing? Blues, Dave Nothing really but,neither has or does Obama. But, Palin has more oportunity for change than Biden. The Chicago political machine is either the model for DC or visa versa. What I find interesting about Obama is how he got elected the firest time. By finding technicalities to have his rival removed from the ballot."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #423 September 4, 2008 QuoteBased on? What Govt's has he run? None, but McCain hasn't run any government either. Isn't that the guy the Republicans want for president? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #424 September 4, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote So McCain, who by all objective measures agrees with Bush 95% of the time, has stolen the "change" slogan from his opponent's campaign. Excellent entertainment courtesy of John McCain, aviator extraordinare. Well, I dont know about that and you do stretch this well but, if one does look objectivly McCain Palin would look to be "change" more thatn Obama Biden. I asked this earlier this week. What changes has McCain proposed from what we're currently doing? Blues, Dave Nothing really but,neither has or does Obama. But, Palin has more oportunity for change than Biden. The Chicago political machine is either the model for DC or visa versa. I seem to remember Obama talk about bringing our troops home from Iraq, giving a tax cut to those who make under $250k/year, providing tax incentives to make college more affordable to those who will commit to serving their country or community, something about providing healthcare to far more people than currently enjoy it, engaging in diplomacy with Iran (as opposed to "bomb, bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb Iran"). Actually, I've heard him talk about making lots of changes. Quote What I find interesting about Obama is how he got elected the firest time. By finding technicalities to have his rival removed from the ballot. Technicalities? What do you suppose is wrong with pointing out your opponent hasn't met the qualifications to appear on the ballot? One of the better Obamamyths I've heard in this election has been your side saying "He CAN'T be President, he's not a US citizen! " How is that any different? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #425 September 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteSo McCain, who by all objective measures agrees with Bush 95% of the time, has stolen the "change" slogan from his opponent's campaign. Excellent entertainment courtesy of John McCain, aviator extraordinare. Well, I dont know about that and you do stretch this well but, if one does look objectivly McCain Palin would look to be "change" more thatn Obama Biden. If we look at the party change, 20 of 28 years has been Republican, so that is inherent change to have a Dem elected. If we look at the potential change from Bush/Cheney to McCain/Palin VERSUS Bush/Cheney to Obama/Palin how can you say that the latter isn't more change? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites