Gawain 0 #1 August 29, 2008 It had to have been, because I've been hearing this sh*t since Iowa. He's a great orator, but there's no substance. The folks are going to come out of this hungry in about 30 minutes.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #2 August 29, 2008 QuoteIt had to have been, because I've been hearing this sh*t since Iowa. . Only since Iowa? We've been suffering the same Bush shit for 8 years.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,521 #3 August 29, 2008 "hehe hee.. stay the course, stay the course." "We need CHANGE, not politics as usual - REAL change... NOT politics as usual, so I hereby nominate the WHITEST cracker whose longevity in the Senate surpasses that of John McCain to be my VP in this time of change." They all suck. I'm moving to Belize. Look me up when you get there, I'll be the biggest gringo in the country. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #4 August 29, 2008 Quote "hehe hee.. stay the course, stay the course." "We need CHANGE, not politics as usual - REAL change... NOT politics as usual, so I hereby nominate the WHITEST cracker whose longevity in the Senate surpasses that of John McCain to be my VP in this time of change." They all suck. I'm moving to Belize. Look me up when you get there, I'll be the biggest gringo in the country. I'm torn on his selection of Biden. Bottom line, I'm thinking he fought the biggest fire and went with the guy with the most foreign policy experience. I'd still have preferred Powell or Clark, but I suppose Biden does fit the bill on the whole "lack of experience" issue McCain's been exploiting. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #5 August 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteIt had to have been, because I've been hearing this sh*t since Iowa. . Only since Iowa? We've been suffering the same Bush shit for 8 years. Just think, if the Nazis win, you'll have at least 4 more to get back on your feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #6 August 29, 2008 Quote "hehe hee.. stay the course, stay the course." "We need CHANGE, not politics as usual - REAL change... NOT politics as usual, so I hereby nominate the WHITEST cracker whose longevity in the Senate surpasses that of John McCain to be my VP in this time of change." They all suck. I'm moving to Belize. Look me up when you get there, I'll be the biggest gringo in the country. When does a VP matter anyway? Hell, Nixon's had to quit for tax evasion, LBJ was the last VP that mattered, unless you considered when Reagan was shot and GHWB took over for a few days. Obama is change, like it or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #7 August 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteIt had to have been, because I've been hearing this sh*t since Iowa. . Only since Iowa? We've been suffering the same Bush shit for 8 years. Why are all of your defenses just pointing fingers? Bush's term is over. What is Obama going to do for us besides say the same thing over and over and over? He wants to: cut taxes for 95% of the middle class provide health care for every american provide college funding for anyone who wants to go fix social security beef up the military stop iran's nuclear program curb russia's aggression end our dependance on foreign oil within 10 years hire an army of teachers and raise all of their wages disallow companies to send jobs over seas balance the budget reverse global warming Not once did he say how he was going to do any of that. Cut taxes and provide quality healthcare? Increase teachers salaries and provide government funded student aid? Curb Russia's aggression? It's the same rainbow and blue sky, head up your ass wishful thinking he's had all along. You hated Bush. I get it. Come up with a real plan and I'll listen. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #8 August 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteIt had to have been, because I've been hearing this sh*t since Iowa. . Only since Iowa? We've been suffering the same Bush shit for 8 years. Why are all of your defenses just pointing fingers? Bush's term is over. What is Obama going to do for us besides say the same thing over and over and over? He wants to: cut taxes for 95% of the middle class provide health care for every american provide college funding for anyone who wants to go fix social security beef up the military stop iran's nuclear program curb russia's aggression end our dependance on foreign oil within 10 years hire an army of teachers and raise all of their wages disallow companies to send jobs over seas balance the budget reverse global warming Not once did he say how he was going to do any of that. Cut taxes and provide quality healthcare? Increase teachers salaries and provide government funded student aid? Curb Russia's aggression? It's the same rainbow and blue sky, head up your ass wishful thinking he's had all along. You hated Bush. I get it. Come up with a real plan and I'll listen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Why are all of your defenses just pointing fingers? Bush's term is over. Point is, if McSame is elected/appointed, we will suffer the Bush disaster again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Not once did he say how he was going to do any of that. Wait for the debates, that will come out. Clinton did it with the 1992 Omnibus Spending Bill, raised taxes on the rich significantly and cut military spending. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's the same rainbow and blue sky, head up your ass wishful thinking he's had all along. You hated Bush. I get it. Come up with a real plan and I'll listen. Clinton did it by cutting military spending and increasing social and educational spending. Worked for him, the deficit improved every year until it turned to a surplus. I think Obama will follow what Clinton did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #9 August 29, 2008 Did someone say Belize? Come be my next door neighbor BIGUN! If you think politics are whacky in the USA, just wait till you see what goes on down there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,173 #10 August 29, 2008 >Not once did he say how he was going to do any of that. Why - you're right! He should have spoken for six days straight to cover all the details of his plans that the illiterati can't be bothered to read about. (Of course, then the criticism would be "all Obama does is talk.") Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #11 August 29, 2008 Quote "hehe hee.. stay the course, stay the course." "We need CHANGE, not politics as usual - REAL change... NOT politics as usual, so I hereby nominate the WHITEST cracker whose longevity in the Senate surpasses that of John McCain to be my VP in this time of change." They all suck. I'm moving to Belize. Look me up when you get there, I'll be the biggest gringo in the country. My sailboat will be off the coast there somewhere. Come visit me for a little diving. Sky or water. Have to pay off the last wife first tho. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #12 August 29, 2008 QuoteIt had to have been, because I've been hearing this sh*t since Iowa. So do you think he should have used his acceptance speech to flip flop? Or do you think he should have used his acceptance speech to discuss detail rather than big-picture platform? Personally, I think keeping the same platform subsequent to nomination is a good thing. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,173 #13 August 29, 2008 >So do you think he should have used his acceptance speech to flip flop? Then the title of the thread would have been "Obama's speech proves how inconsistent and hypocritical he is." If he had gone into more detail the title would have been "Obama bores audience to death with his elitist ramblings." If he had talked more about the military it would have been "Obama uses US soldiers to score political points." If he had talked about them less it would have been "Obama cares so little about the military that he barely mentioned them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfc 1 #14 August 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteIt had to have been, because I've been hearing this sh*t since Iowa. . Only since Iowa? We've been suffering the same Bush shit for 8 years. Why are all of your defenses just pointing fingers? Bush's term is over. What is Obama going to do for us besides say the same thing over and over and over? He wants to: cut taxes for 95% of the middle class provide health care for every american provide college funding for anyone who wants to go fix social security beef up the military stop iran's nuclear program curb russia's aggression end our dependance on foreign oil within 10 years hire an army of teachers and raise all of their wages disallow companies to send jobs over seas balance the budget reverse global warming Not once did he say how he was going to do any of that. Cut taxes and provide quality healthcare? Increase teachers salaries and provide government funded student aid? Curb Russia's aggression? It's the same rainbow and blue sky, head up your ass wishful thinking he's had all along. You hated Bush. I get it. Come up with a real plan and I'll listen. You didn't listen to the speech did you, he explained how he was going to pay for it. I'll leave it as an exercise for you to find out what he really said. It is so lame that you take a sound bite without checking out the authenticity but so typical of the rePUBICans in this election. Attacking with lies and misquotes its the rePUBICican way, it is an attempt to scare people into voting rePUBICan. Just look at the posts on this forum to see the desperation and deception the rePUBICans sink to to try and win. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,521 #15 August 29, 2008 OK... so me AKA and grimmie are heading out.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites