You're gonna love THIS motherfucker

[birdlike 0]

Prime candidate for extermination

I know this is not a new story -- it's a few months old. I don't know for sure what the disposition of the case against him is, as of now.

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Handcuffed and surrounded by bailiffs, the man who confessed to committing the Lester Street mass murder appeared in court Monday.

For Jessie Dotson, 33, charged with six counts of first-degree murder and three counts of attempted first-degree murder, it was the second time in his short life that he has appeared in court after having admitted to killing.
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During the Memphis murderer's incarceration, prison staff cited him more than 30 times for disciplinary problems that included violent outbursts, records from the Department of Corrections indicate. His first few years in custody included petty theft, regular fights and disturbances that often ended in Dotson's hurling taunts at guards. He was also involved in a prison gang, records indicate.
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April 9, 1999, Dotson was ordered to clear the way for a corrections officer to pass. He refused, an incident report states, and several gang members began to gather around him.

"We need to kill some of these punk (expletive) police," Dotson said. Corrections officers then took control of the situation, and Dotson was disciplined.
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That same year, Dotson first became eligible for parole. He was denied.

In addition to his violent outbursts, he refused to take orders from corrections officers and was often found skipping his classes and not doing assigned homework, records show.

On May 13, 2000, for example, a female corrections officer ordered Dotson to clean up some food. No, he told her, and began to yell and curse, saying he "didn't have to take orders from a woman," the report states.

Dotson came up for parole a second time in 2002, and he was again denied. That year, he continued to threaten prison staff and tested positive for drug use. On Nov. 10, 2002, Dotson turned to a correction officer who asked him to clear the yard. "I will kill your (expletive)," Dotson said.
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Then the violence halted, records show. Dotson transferred to Brushy Mountain Correctional Complex in Petros and was denied in his third parole attempt in 2005 following three positive drugs tests.

When he became eligible for parole for the fourth time, in July 2007, Dotson had a clean record for nearly two years besides a reprimand for yelling profanities. He was about six months away from his release date when he was granted parole on July 30, 2007.

"They felt it was probably better to release him with supervision for six months than to have him set free without supervision after being in the prison system so long," said Melissa McDonald, communications director for the Tennessee Board of Probation and Parole.

Dotson was released Aug. 27, 2007, under the watch of probation officers in Memphis. About five months later, on Jan. 26, Dotson's parole ended.

Five weeks later, police discovered four adults and two children dead and three kids wounded at 722 Lester St.

Dotson has been charged with shooting and murdering his brother Cecil Dotson, 30; Marissa Rene Williams, 27; Hollis Seals, 33; and Shindri Roberson, 22. Prosecutors also allege Dotson stabbed and killed two of his nephews, Cemario Dotson, 4, and Cecil Dotson II, 2, both sons of Cecil.

OUR SYSTEM let this fucking vermin piece of shit OUT so that he could live his life free -- AFTER a conviction for MURDER. THIS is how "the System" "protects" the public.

I need not remind you that HE IS STILL [I]ALIVE[/I].

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[Rookie120 0]

I agree this asshat need a hot needle of death. I am laughing at the thread title! I guess it's alot more funny when you have 3 double scotches in ya. Ok I'm going to bed!

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

[pirana 0]

I understand that humans are seen as special by most (compared to all other life forms); and I accept that to a point. What I disagree with is the position that they are so special that we must refrain from exterminating them regardless of their destructive predatorial behaviors.

So I'm interested in having the anti-capital punishment crowd bottom line it for me.

It can't be that we as a society, in general, believe that all life is sacred - because we don't seem to have a lot of qualms about killing millions during warfare. And most of those are killed for basically political reasons, and I doubt any but a small percentage ever committed more than a petty crime.

So we are willing to send millions of innocents to die over squabbles about land and oil and religion and other political motivations; but a sizeable chunk of our population gets all knotted about sending a relative handful of scum-of-the-Earth predatorial murdering filth to their death.

Makes no sense to me at all.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

[Andy9o8 2]

Oh. Another "fry the scumbag criminal" thread. Not to be confused with all the other "fry the scumbag criminal" threads.

On the bright side, at least it's not the usual push-poll:

___Yes, society is better off without this vermin.
___No, I'm a liberal, flag-burning puke who thinks this misunderstood soul should be offered milk and cookies.

[DougH 270]

I don't think the value of life is an absolute value.

It is a moving target...

Fall to the end of the spectrum and you should be removed from existance to protect those on the other end of the scale.

"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall"
=P

[Amazon 7]

For everyone of these posts there are at least 10 that could be made of those who went to jail for things they did not commit because of bad police work.. or downright corruption. It is our system. He pled out to 2nd degree murder....to me murder is murder... period. That in itself is reason enough to place someone like him somewhere where he has no more interaction with other human beings.

A nice isolation cell for the next 80 years or so.. would have solved this problem and prevented our system from being just as bad as this kind os human scum.

[sfc 1]

More vitriol. Do you buy it in bulk?

Absolutely we should have a knee jerk reaction and kill everyone convicted of a crime just in case they might do something bad. Forget reasoned debate and looking at the whole issue, this one incident means we should react and kill kill kill.

[Skyrad 0]

Why does this warrant yet another thread when you're just sayig the same thing over again?

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[JohnRich 4]

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For everyone of these posts there are at least 10 that could be made of those who went to jail for things they did not commit because of bad police work.. or downright corruption.

You think that 91% of people in prison are innocent?

You think that these six murders are acceptable losses because some people are wrongly imprisoned?

[Skyrad 0]

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For everyone of these posts there are at least 10 that could be made of those who went to jail for things they did not commit because of bad police work.. or downright corruption.

You think that 91% of people in prison are innocent?

You think that these six murders are acceptable losses because some people are wrongly imprisoned?

LOL...

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3310149#3310149

Proof

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[normiss 898]

Apparently he's the new authority on the death penalty. It's his decision now.

[Amazon 7]

No.. I think for EVERY heinous murderer you guys drag up in these threads.. it would be easy to find 10 FORMER death Row inmates who have been freed by the people who sponsor this.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=412&scid=6

129 and counting.

[diverborg 0]

Hmm, Amazon has a good point. In order to see whose right here we have to see which website has higher numbers.

http://www.fuckersthatshouldfry.org/

I can't get the link to work to know if the number is higher or not.

[kelpdiver 2]

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Why does this warrant yet another thread when you're just sayig the same thing over again?

birdlike is definitely in the 'quantity over quality' corner of Speaker's Corner. A place where the metric for victory is the number of words written.

I'm in a different corner, where the key metric is the ratio of words written by your opponent to your own (higher ratio is better). Wit and brevity are valued highly.

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Bird -I'm not sure the point of this example. The problem here seems to be with Memphis giving a plea bargain with a short sentence. Lack of evidence? He was going to be released anyway, was never a candidate for the death penalty on the first pass.

Don't confuse your arguments in your quest for the criminal that every single person here will agree must be killed. (Can you find Hitler in Argentina?)

[Skyrad 0]

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Apparently he's the new authority on the death penalty. It's his decision now.

Oh dear.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[masterblaster72 0]

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Oh. Another "fry the scumbag criminal" thread. Not to be confused with all the other "fry the scumbag criminal" threads.

On the bright side, at least it's not the usual push-poll:

___Yes, society is better off without this vermin.
___No, I'm a liberal, flag-burning puke who thinks this misunderstood soul should be offered milk and cookies.

Awesome.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

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I agree this asshat need a hot needle of death. I am laughing at the thread title! I guess it's alot more funny when you have 3 double scotches in ya. Ok I'm going to bed!

Drink a lot of water, dude. Sleep well.

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[birdlike 0]

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Oh. Another "fry the scumbag criminal" thread. Not to be confused with all the other "fry the scumbag criminal" threads.

On the bright side, at least it's not the usual push-poll:

___Yes, society is better off without this vermin.
___No, I'm a liberal, flag-burning puke who thinks this misunderstood soul should be offered milk and cookies.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

First of all, you won't go within a hundred miles of addressing the post above you, which made EXCELLENT points here

Second, when I made a poll that was sort of like that, I wasn't hiding the snide nature of it. Then I made one that was NORMAL and OBJECTIVE and PLAINLY ASKED, and you still just reference the other type. Big surprise. When things change, and now accommodate your tastes, you still complain about the way they used to be done.

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For everyone of these posts there are at least 10 that could be made of those who went to jail for things they did not commit because of bad police work.. or downright corruption. It is our system. He pled out to 2nd degree murder....to me murder is murder... period. That in itself is reason enough to place someone like him somewhere where he has no more interaction with other human beings.

A nice isolation cell for the next 80 years or so.. would have solved this problem and prevented our system from being just as bad as this kind os human scum.

I just don't see why you stop there and don't favor just fully eliminating them. Instead, we get stuck with a BILL.

Righteously executing this kind of human scum does not make us "just as bad as" him. Sorry. I will never agree to that.

How about another example?

- Person A commits the crime of theft, because he wants to install flat screens and DVD players in the headrests of his car.

- Person B commits the crime of theft, because he lost his job and his kid needs insulin, and the rest of his family needs food and is in danger of malnutrition.

Are both thefts equivalent?

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[birdlike 0]

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More vitriol. Do you buy it in bulk?

Absolutely we should have a knee jerk reaction and kill everyone convicted of a crime just in case they might do something bad. Forget reasoned debate and looking at the whole issue, this one incident means we should react and kill kill kill.

Hey, you're right -- and how lucky you are that YOURS was not the family he killed after being a released -- paroled! -- murderer!

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Why does this warrant yet another thread when you're just sayig the same thing over again?

Why does yet another thread about this same thing warrant you coming in here to contribute NO-thing except to question the existence of the thread?

I'm afraid I have to ask you another question of the "Who the fuck / Why the fuck" variety:

Why the fuck do you care? You didn't have to come in here, and if you were bored or annoyed with the subject, you could have just left, and you certainly didn't have to fuckin' post.

The part that really amuses me is that you probably think I am the one who's annoying.

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No.. I think for EVERY heinous murderer you guys drag up in these threads.. it would be easy to find 10 FORMER death Row inmates who have been freed by the people who sponsor this.

So, do you take that as proof that there are lots more out there? Or, put another way, how can you prove that when you find those 10, you haven't found ALL 10 WHO EXISTED?

Besides, you're just demonstrating that the system is working. People are finding out who is wrongly convicted and keeping them from being executed. [kermit voice]Yayyyyy![/kermit voice]

Once again, you are bringing up the idea of wrongful execution in the context of a case that is BEYOND DOUBT, INCLUDING A CONFESSION.

What I can't figure out is why you don't switch off: when we raise a case where the wrongful conviction is a possibility, you should be raising the "it makes us as bad as they are" issue. When we raise a case where it clearly doesn't make us as bad as they are, you should be raising the "what if he's been wrongly convicted" issue.

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Apparently he's the new authority on the death penalty. It's his decision now.

Either that, or I'm simply a person exercising his right to express his OPINION (ever heard of one of THOSE?) about what should be done with depraved, animalistic murderers.

I can see how you wouldn't be able to figure out the difference.

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[birdlike 0]

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Why does this warrant yet another thread when you're just sayig the same thing over again?

birdlike is definitely in the 'quantity over quality' corner of Speaker's Corner. A place where the metric for victory is the number of words written.

Either that or you just don't fuckin' get it most of the time.

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I'm in a different corner, where the key metric is the ratio of words written by your opponent to your own (higher ratio is better). Wit and brevity are valued highly.

Oh, if you do say so yourself.

Well, then you'd better hurry up and make with some.

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Bird -I'm not sure the point of this example. The problem here seems to be with Memphis giving a plea bargain with a short sentence. Lack of evidence? He was going to be released anyway, was never a candidate for the death penalty on the first pass.

See, this is why you mistakenly think there's no "quality" to my posts -- you just don't fuckin' get it. IF you did, you'd know that the point was that this fucker was a murderer already, and if he had been executed rather than given some pissant short sentence, he would not have lived to murder his BROTHER, three other adults, and his two NEPHEWS (children, I might add. Won't you think of the children?!). He not only didn't get a death sentence for the first murder, HE DIDN'T EVEN GET THE "LIFE IN PRISON" THAT YOU FOLKS KEEP SAYING WE SHOULD COMPROMISE ON.

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[Andy9o8 2]

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What the fuck is wrong with you?

You know, you really need to get a grip already. For most of us, this is just the Internet.