Illusion of Choice

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Do you believe that the Democrats, Republicans, and Media have chosen the candidates and issues (information) for us and work together to prevent other candidates and issues (information) from surfacing, thus keeping us ignorant while creating an illusion of choice?

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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Yes.

Think about -- what else -- the Gun Rights issue.

Where the fuck did it go?!

Anyone who is pretending that it need not be discussed with a view toward mattering in the election because the SCOTUS "settled" the issue is a liar. There remains much to be settled about it -- and the next president may get to stack the SCOTUS with appointees!!

So where the fuck is the media coverage?!

You know OBAMA doesn't want publicity on his ABYSMAL voting record and personal opinions on gun rights. If that gets out loud enough, he will lose simply because he won't have the votes of enough gun owners. NO one gets to be president if he doesn't get at least a good portion of the gun owners. It's just a fact. The NRA is not the only factor in an election, but it can make itself be a major one when necessary.

McCain... I don't know why he doesn't hammer Obama about guns. It could be that as much as Obama would need gun owners to be duped into voting for him, McCain will need certain Dem swing voters to forget for a while that he's less opposed to guns than they'd like him to be.

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Think about -- what else -- the Gun Rights issue.

I disagree. I think that gun rights have been discussed plenty (by the Democrats, Republicans, and Media) and that individuals can make choices that will affect their gun rights unlike other issues.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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Think about -- what else -- the Gun Rights issue.

I disagree. I think that gun rights have been discussed plenty (by the Democrats, Republicans, and Media) and that individuals can make choices that will affect their gun rights unlike other issues.

OK. But my experience has been that the ONLY place in the news that gun rights gets discussed is on the letters-to-the-editor page. Occasionally the print news is kind of forced to write a story about some development of national significance, or the news like in Texas about some school district that is allowing teachers with some sort of special hostage training to carry guns on the job.

But every time I see a Time magazine article comparing candidates, or a newspaper article doing the same, and there's a sidebar with info on "the issues," gun rights is NOT THERE.

That is indeed one way of manipulating what issues people are thinking about, or getting information about.

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Think about -- what else -- the Gun Rights issue.

I disagree. I think that gun rights have been discussed plenty (by the Democrats, Republicans, and Media) and that individuals can make choices that will affect their gun rights unlike other issues.

OK. But my experience has been that the ONLY place in the news that gun rights gets discussed is on the letters-to-the-editor page. Occasionally the print news is kind of forced to write a story about some development of national significance, or the news like in Texas about some school district that is allowing teachers with some sort of special hostage training to carry guns on the job.

But every time I see a Time magazine article comparing candidates, or a newspaper article doing the same, and there's a sidebar with info on "the issues," gun rights is NOT THERE.

That is indeed one way of manipulating what issues people are thinking about, or getting information about.

But you know where the Democrats and Republicans stand on the gun rights issue and thus can make an informed decision that will affect your gun rights.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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?? Incumbants working together to maintain their incumbancy??

Incumbants desire to keep their personal power being more important to them than actually closing on subjective political positions which gives them press time over and over?

why would they do that?

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But you know where the Democrats and Republicans stand on the gun rights issue and thus can make an informed decision that will affect your gun rights.

I know where they stand.

But Obama doesn't know where he himself stands: witness the fact that he continues to tell people (along the campaign trail) that he "supports the 2nd Amendment."

Whenever the subject does come up, and he makes that claim, the media DO NOT show up with the refutations you will find in that link. It is dereliction of the press's duty.

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I don’t think there is an illusion of choice. I think we really have a choice yet we have become way to lazy to do 10 min of research every day on our countries future.

I think we are getting killed by the sheep. We have way to many people fighting for things they do not even understand. I think the group mentality of the dem vs Rep is a retarded process. We should start from the begining every election and see what every candidate offers before we make up our mind.


I do think you have to do some research your self. I also think we need more then two parties to be able to reflect the population’s belief. How many people do you know that agree with some rep policies and some dem. Policies?


Here is some other things.
You’re an idiot if you are still pissed Hillary lost and will stick by her side just because she has a vagina.
You’re an idiot if you think a Muslim name is enough to disqualify you from being a good leader, or good person.
You’re an idiot if you belong to a group and follow that party line without making up your own mind.

Your loyalty should be to The Constitution and your country not a party,


Unfortunately I think the system is failing because we have too many idiots.

Old saying. Once the fire starts the wet and the dry lumber all burn together. I think we have way to much dry lumber.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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I don’t think there is an illusion of choice. I think we really have a choice yet we have become way to lazy to do 10 min of research every day on our countries future.

I think we are getting killed by the sheep. We have way to many people fighting for things they do not even understand. I think the group mentality of the dem vs Rep is a retarded process. We should start from the begining every election and see what every candidate offers before we make up our mind.


I do think you have to do some research your self. I also think we need more then two parties to be able to reflect the population’s belief. How many people do you know that agree with some rep policies and some dem. Policies?


Here is some other things.
You’re an idiot if you are still pissed Hillary lost and will stick by her side just because she has a vagina.
You’re an idiot if you think a Muslim name is enough to disqualify you from being a good leader, or good person.
You’re an idiot if you belong to a group and follow that party line without making up your own mind.

Your loyalty should be to The Constitution and your country not a party,


Unfortunately I think the system is failing because we have too many idiots.

Old saying. Once the fire starts the wet and the dry lumber all burn together. I think we have way to much dry lumber.

Very well said.

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