I'd like to hear the naysayers explain why this piece of shit shouldn't fry
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normiss 898
Well and humanly said.
This should wind him up again.
Some people won't be convinced that it's wrong.
They will always believe they can eliminate the world's problems instead of accepting what is and dealing with it humanely.
birdlike 0
QuoteQuoteIt's good enough for everyone else here, so to not do it would be to tie my hand behind my back in the debates.
I get it. You think it's okay to bitch about other people allegedly doing it while you do it yourself. Don't be surprised if anyone calls you on such hypocrisy.
I understand. But in all honesty, the way I live my life, I try to remain ever open to being shown where I am wrong if I am wrong, and reevaluating my positions on things in view of new information or corrections. I also strive to not engage in hypocrisy, and try to stamp it out of my own behavior when noticed, when possible. EVERYONE lives with a bit of hypocrisy on their own part. But usually it is in parts of their lives that are hard to cut out. It's easy to cut it out when you are doing it in your debating, and still, I see many people here engage in it as a very regular thing.
The rest of what you wrote is essentially a dead issue. If you wouldn't have stood on ceremony, you would have seen that right up front, I was intending to make good on the debt incurred by the wager, even though I did not consider it a settled issue that you had truly won.
You blindsided me with an insistence that I give the money myself to an organization I dislike, and now say I am "welshing" (is that the word?) because I won't pay more than the dollar I owed (you tried to hit me up for an additional 33%!), or to anyone but the person who I said I would pay. Too bad, so sad.
Imaginations on fire
birdlike 0
QuoteQuoteLess of a human being? Howzat? If you tested my DNA, before and after executing vermin, it would be the same, Jeanne.
To me a human being is also the soul... your very essence.. your being... and when you kill other people it lessens ones soul..In that respect I see you as you ARE.
Fine, you are entitled to have that view even if I disagree with it.
I was not aware that a soul was a quantity, I thought it was just an entity, a whole. Can a soul be somehow "weighed" and be "less" after the person who is that soul did something bad?
QuoteYOU and your ILK bring SHAME on ALL of America in the eyes of MOST of the world.
I don't see it that way. I also recognize that "most of the world" lives with a very different set of values, and most of them live in poverty created in part from their own ignorance or stubbornness. I really don't care how they view me or America.
And after it's all said and done, I doubt there is a person from this board, with whom I disagree vehemently, with whom I would not skydive or hoist a beer. Go figure.
Imaginations on fire
jcd11235 0
QuoteI was intending to make good on the debt incurred by the wager, even though I did not consider it a settled issue that you had truly won.
First, I met the condition of the bet, without question. Second, if you had intended to pay, why have you come up with excuse after excuse why you won't?
QuoteYou blindsided me with an insistence that I give the money myself to an organization I dislike, and now say I am "welshing" (is that the word?) because I won't pay more than the dollar I owed (you tried to hit me up for an additional 33%!), or to anyone but the person who I said I would pay. Too bad, so sad.
Do you not live in the real world? I gave you the opportunity (which still stands) to post proof of a $1 donation to the ACLU. That would save you any fees associated with your responsibility of delivering the funds to me. If you don't want to do that, then you can get $1 to me however you like, but delivery fees remain your responsibility, just like any other payment owed in the real world.
It would be comical to watch someone sell out their personal credibility over such a small amount if it wasn't so pathetically sad.
Skyrad 0
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Joseph Edward Duncan III
Only in America plebs put numbers after their name
WTF is with that?
And your current monarch is Queen Elizabeth __ (fill in the blank)?![]()
Sure but she isn't a Plebian.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Skyrad 0
QuoteQuoteSomeone needs to take this young man and sit him down and talk to him. He needs to understand what he did is wrong and not acceptable. He needs to have the consequences of his action explained to him, and he needs love and acceptance to be able to reintegrate into society. I wouldn't mind putting money on the fact that he was most likely abused as a child and so is in fact a victim himself. I think that with time hard work counsiling and love he could once again become a member of society and truely repent for the crimes he committed in his pain....Actually I'd much rather shoot him.
Stay on topic. This thread isn't about birdlike.

Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Skyrad 0
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Joseph Edward Duncan III
Only in America plebs put numbers after their name
WTF is with that?
Is it better to live in a country with overt recognition of who is a "pleb" and who is a "patrician"?
Maybe you'd prefer to replace the "land of opportunity" with "stay in your fuckin' CASTE!" as the motto of the U.S.?
The fact that you condescend to people as though you have the standing to call them "pleb" says a lot about you.
Firstly, my comment has nothing to do with the Caste system but if you wish to stop Hindu liberals reforming their religion in the USA then thats up to you.
Secondly the distinction was between Royalty and the middle and working class with no reference to where I do or don't stand anywhere in the text either directly or indirectly.
As for Plebs I refer you to the account below (taken from Wikipedia as I don't want to invest any more time than I have to in your education.)
QuotePlebs were the general body of Roman citizens in Ancient Rome. They were distinct from the privileged class of the patricians. A member of the plebs was known as a plebeian (Latin: plebeius). The term is used more commonly today to refer to one who is in the middle or lower class, or who appears to be; however, in Rome, plebeians could become quite wealthy and influential.
So you see the distinction is between the ruling class (eg: Royalty) and the citizens, who could be wealthy and influential people. The fact that you look down your nose at plebs therefore says allot more about your feelings of class inferiority than it does anything about me in anyway shape or form dear boy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
To me a human being is also the soul... your very essence.. your being... and when you kill other people it lessens ones soul..In that respect I see you as you ARE.
YOU and your ILK bring SHAME on ALL of America in the eyes of MOST of the world.
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