kallend 2,184 #51 August 23, 2008 Quote Quote Maybe his brother happens to like his lifestyle I saw a tv interview with his brother. He didn't seem happy to me. If i had a brother living on a dollar a month and I lived in a multimillion dollar home, it might be time to look at my values. Don't you think Like i said before the B. H. Obama seem ok with handing out your money but less so for his. Repeating a falsehood doesn't make it come true. If it did, Iraq would have WMDs. By the way, aren't you the same bodypilot90 that admitted (April 2004) posting stuff you know to be untrue on SC "for amusement"? That hardly helps your credibility.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #52 August 23, 2008 Quote Quote Maybe his brother happens to like his lifestyle I saw a tv interview with his brother. He didn't seem happy to me. If i had a brother living on a dollar a month and I lived in a multimillion dollar home, it might be time to look at my values. Don't you think Like i said before the B. H. Obama seem ok with handing out your money but less so for his. I wish, I could've seen that interview. I might have a bit more in-sight to the situation. Do you recall if, he said something in regard to help or aid from his brother? I can't form an opinion because, I don't have the facts on the matter. Also, It appears to me that all politicians are quick to spend everyone elses money rather than theirs. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #53 August 23, 2008 Thank you for your insight on other lifestyles and cultures. It is too easy to only view the situation through our perspectives and make judgments when we honestly don't understand the situation there. Unfortunately, we tend to get most of our information on life in other countries from news and the media (and as we know, those are not always accurate or without their own agendas) Hearing opinions of those that HAVE been there is helpful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #54 August 23, 2008 Here is another interview directly with George Obama: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/22/bts.obama.brother/index.html?iref=mpstoryviewYesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #55 August 23, 2008 Quote Quote Maybe his brother happens to like his lifestyle I saw a tv interview with his brother. He didn't seem happy to me. If i had a brother living on a dollar a month and I lived in a multimillion dollar home, it might be time to look at my values. Don't you think Like i said before the B. H. Obama seem ok with handing out your money but less so for his. You're really making yourself look foolish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #56 August 23, 2008 Back in March, when Sen. Obama made his "big" speech...he said: "I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of every race and every hue, scattered across three continents, ..." Then he said: "Let us be our brother's keeper,..." Sen. Obama could send him $20 and double the income for the year... So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #57 August 23, 2008 Quote Back in March, when Sen. Obama made his "big" speech...he said: "I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of every race and every hue, scattered across three continents, ..." Then he said: "Let us be our brother's keeper,..." Sen. Obama could send him $20 and double the income for the year... Senator McCain could give him a nice house and McCain wouldn't even know he didn't own it any more.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #58 August 23, 2008 QuoteHere is another interview directly with George Obama: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/22/bts.obama.brother/index.html?iref=mpstoryview Thanks! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #59 August 23, 2008 QuoteHere is another interview directly with George Obama: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/22/bts.obama.brother/index.html?iref=mpstoryview According to the article you posted, George doesn't seem too un-happy with his life. He appears to have a good attitude and is learning a good trade. He also seems content to do things on his own and deal with his own life. If, that's how it is, leave him be. Where's the problem? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #60 August 23, 2008 Its only a problem because both sides see political capital in it. The Right wants to use it as an attack since Obama has brought his brother up from poverty (by US standerds) with his own money, the left wants to use it as capital so show that through hard work Barack was able to improve himself to the point he is running for the POTUS. This really is a non-story in terms of the impact on the country if Obama was elected but people smell blood in the water and will use anything to get ratings or attack the other side.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #61 August 23, 2008 It's just politics as usual and you make a good point. One side or the other is going to dig-up the dirt on his competition to try to make themselves look more appealing. I just don't go for the 'dirt diggers... they usually come-up with a poor crop. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #62 August 23, 2008 QuoteIt's just politics as usual and you make a good point. One side or the other is going to dig-up the dirt on his competition to try to make themselves look more appealing. Chuck "One side", however, has turned it into an art form, as we saw in 2000, 2004 and now in 2008. Swiftboating has now entered the dictionaries to describe what we used to call a smear campaign or character assassination.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #63 August 23, 2008 Did he or did he not stay in a church preaching black liberation theology. Share the wealth with others, un loving Marcists. those are facts you may have a hard time accepting but it's true none the less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #64 August 23, 2008 i think i saw it on cbs, I will look. he was a bit embarrased about how he was living and didn;t see that he had any hope of improvement Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #65 August 23, 2008 QuoteDid he or did he not stay in a church preaching black liberation theology. Share the wealth with others, un loving Marcists. those are facts you may have a hard time accepting but it's true none the less. I've stayed in a country that practised fascism and another that practised polygamy. Didn't make me a fascist or a polygamist. You really are desperate. PS Have you stopped posting stuff you know to be untrue? Clicky... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #66 August 23, 2008 QuoteQuoteIt's just politics as usual and you make a good point. One side or the other is going to dig-up the dirt on his competition to try to make themselves look more appealing. Chuck "One side", however, has turned it into an art form, as we saw in 2000, 2004 and now in 2008. Swiftboating has now entered the dictionaries to describe what we used to call a smear campaign or character assassination. You got that right! Swiftboating? Who comes-up with these 'terms'? That's a new one on me! All those Washington 'spin doctors'? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #67 August 23, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteIt's just politics as usual and you make a good point. One side or the other is going to dig-up the dirt on his competition to try to make themselves look more appealing. Chuck "One side", however, has turned it into an art form, as we saw in 2000, 2004 and now in 2008. Swiftboating has now entered the dictionaries to describe what we used to call a smear campaign or character assassination. You got that right! Swiftboating? Who comes-up with these 'terms'? That's a new one on me! All those Washington 'spin doctors'? Chuck Swift Boating describes the effective use of well funded false charges against the personal character of a candidate. The way the game is played is a false charge is raised by a 529 group, one that is not permitted to be under the control of any candidate. The group makes the false charge and then the candidate who may benefit from the attack upon his opponent reminds voters that he/she does not endorse this view and has absolutely no control over those promoting the attack. The candidate further cites the law that prohibits the candidate from attempting to control the representations of the group leading the character attack. This argument is then extended to its perfect conclusion: No, we cannot tell them to stop, for that would be attempting to control their free speech and would violate the law. So, sorry, can’t comment on their claims at all. President Bush and Karl Rove fell in love with this strategy. Our president did not have a distinctive military service in the National Guard in Texas during the Vietnam War, and his opponent, John Kerry had military service in Vietnam that earned him several purple hearts. So how do you diminish a war hero contrasting his service with a tour of Texas in uniform? Why, Swift Boaters of course. It's quite enlightening to check out and compare on Snopes the number of FALSE, smear stories about Obama, with those on McCain. The ratio is around 19:1 The GOP's smear machine is in top gear.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #68 August 23, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote It's just politics as usual and you make a good point. One side or the other is going to dig-up the dirt on his competition to try to make themselves look more appealing. Chuck "One side", however, has turned it into an art form, as we saw in 2000, 2004 and now in 2008. Swiftboating has now entered the dictionaries to describe what we used to call a smear campaign or character assassination. You got that right! Swiftboating? Who comes-up with these 'terms'? That's a new one on me! All those Washington 'spin doctors'? Chuck Swift Boating describes the effective use of well funded false charges against the personal character of a candidate. The way the game is played is a false charge is raised by a 529 group, one that is not permitted to be under the control of any candidate. The group makes the false charge and then the candidate who may benefit from the attack upon his opponent reminds voters that he/she does not endorse this view and has absolutely no control over those promoting the attack. The candidate further cites the law that prohibits the candidate from attempting to control the representations of the group leading the character attack. This argument is then extended to its perfect conclusion: No, we cannot tell them to stop, for that would be attempting to control their free speech and would violate the law. So, sorry, can’t comment on their claims at all. President Bush and Karl Rove fell in love with this strategy. Our president did not have a distinctive military service in the National Guard in Texas during the Vietnam War, and his opponent, John Kerry had military service in Vietnam that earned him several purple hearts. So how do you diminish a war hero contrasting his service with a tour of Texas in uniform? Why, Swift Boaters of course. It's quite enlightening to check out and compare on Snopes the number of FALSE, smear stories about Obama, with those on McCain. The ratio is around 19:1 The GOP's smear machine is in top gear. Fascinating! I appreciate your taking the time to 'educate' me. I had just never heard the term, before. If, I recall correctly, Kerry had it down to a science. It didn't seem to work too good for him, though! Thanks, again! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #69 August 23, 2008 Quote Fascinating! I appreciate your taking the time to 'educate' me. I had just never heard the term, before. If, I recall correctly, Kerry had it down to a science. It didn't seem to work too good for him, though! Thanks, again! Chuck Negative. Karl Rove has it down to a science. Kerry was the victim of the smears.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #70 August 23, 2008 Keep throwing enough bullshit against the side of a barn, and some of it might stick. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #71 August 23, 2008 Quote Quote Fascinating! I appreciate your taking the time to 'educate' me. I had just never heard the term, before. If, I recall correctly, Kerry had it down to a science. It didn't seem to work too good for him, though! Thanks, again! Chuck Negative. Karl Rove has it down to a science. Kerry was the victim of the smears. O.K., I gotcha' now! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #72 August 24, 2008 Quote Quote Back in March, when Sen. Obama made his "big" speech...he said: "I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of every race and every hue, scattered across three continents, ..." Then he said: "Let us be our brother's keeper,..." Sen. Obama could send him $20 and double the income for the year... Senator McCain could give him a nice house and McCain wouldn't even know he didn't own it any more. So could Senator Kerry - what's your point?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #73 August 24, 2008 Quote"One side", however, has turned it into an art form, as we saw in 2000, 2004 and now in 2008. Oh, spare me.... both sides use it. QuoteSwiftboating has now entered the dictionaries to describe what we used to call a smear campaign or character assassination. Those old tried-and-true staples of ANY politican campaign.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #74 August 24, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Back in March, when Sen. Obama made his "big" speech...he said: "I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of every race and every hue, scattered across three continents, ..." Then he said: "Let us be our brother's keeper,..." Sen. Obama could send him $20 and double the income for the year... Senator McCain could give him a nice house and McCain wouldn't even know he didn't own it any more. So could Senator Kerry - what's your point? Whooosh. Try again... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #75 August 24, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Back in March, when Sen. Obama made his "big" speech...he said: "I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of every race and every hue, scattered across three continents, ..." Then he said: "Let us be our brother's keeper,..." Sen. Obama could send him $20 and double the income for the year... Senator McCain could give him a nice house and McCain wouldn't even know he didn't own it any more. So could Senator Kerry - what's your point? Whooosh. Try again No whoosh, sorry - merely illustrating a point. As usual, you conveniently leave out the REST of the data: Quote Property and tax records show the copule own at least eight, mostly condominiums purchased by Mrs McCain as investments or for use by their children. I now expect a post from you excoriating Mrs. Buffett for not knowing how many different companies Warren owns stock in. Stupid move for Obama's people, anyway...they just swung the door WIDE open to bring the Rezko financing thing back INTO the spotlight, after they'd more-or-less succeeded in sweeping it under the rug.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
