Andy9o8 2 #26 August 21, 2008 http://www.riehlworldview.com/photos/uncategorized/obama_for_prez.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #27 August 21, 2008 QuoteQuote Politics is a full contact sport. This fact has not changed since the begining. If he cant stand internal political heat how the hell can he manage himself inside internation type tensions? He can indeed stand it. He's trying to drive the conversation to things HE thinks is important. As for dealing with internation(al) tensions, he'll do fine. Foreign leaders don't typically take their talking points from FOX. Quote Everything listed (except his ears) IS fair game. His wife was campaining for him. Any presidents judgement and associations SHOULD be looked at. If not at least those, what then should be looked at? Maybe his ideas on health care, energy, taxes, government waste, foreign policy, education, veterans, immigration, civil rights, etc. Specifics? People spit this out but I see few specifics. I do know his energy policy sucks......"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #28 August 21, 2008 Quote Specifics? People spit this out but I see few specifics. You've gotta read Quote I do know his energy policy sucks...... I don't like his short term proposals like windfall profits taxes and tapping the strategic reserves but the tire and tune up idea is a good one. If everyone inflated their tires to the proper pressure today then we would save 3.5 million gallons of gasoline by tomorrow. That's about the most simple, effective, short term solution that I can think of. What do you dislike about the rest of his proposals? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 886 #29 August 21, 2008 I care that he fully supported the gun bans in Illinois - IMO in direct violation of the constitution. THAT concerns me a great deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #30 August 21, 2008 QuoteWell, Zogby released a poll showing that Mccain has now taken the lead - a five point lead. Obama appears to be losing something. I heard the same thing yesterday. And I love how Obama is spinning it. Someone else mentioned it as well, the fact that the hip people that are supporting BO don't get called on their cell phones. I don't think that is the issue. I think people are getting turned off by his arrogance and his inability to wing it. He is great in a speech but he did horribly at Saddleback and people are starting to notice his lack of substance and experience.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #31 August 21, 2008 Quote"BH Obama"? Please. And please don't insult our intelligence by innocently saying "but it's accurate, isn't it?" We're not fucking morons, and you're no Ann Coulter. Come on now, you know he always refers to his guy as "John Sidney McCain III", right? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #32 August 21, 2008 Ah I see another fellow traveller showed up in the thread.. well done for adding more substance to an already enlightening thread..... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #33 August 21, 2008 I see you have a stalker "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #34 August 21, 2008 Quote Well, Zogby released a poll showing that Mccain has now taken the lead - a five point lead. Obama: BA, Columbia College, political science, specialization in international relations JD, Harvard Law, magna cum laude (actually top 6%) Some state and federal political experience, some civil rights work, constitutional law professor McCain: BS, majored in flying, Naval Academy, bottom 1% of his class (actually bottom 0.6%...894th of 899) Naval aviator (and not a good one, he's crashed 4 Navy planes and 1 ultralight...perhaps he should have studied more), career politician, member of the Keating 5 I gotta get smarter countrymen. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #35 August 21, 2008 Quote Seems to be his way of answering things he doesn't care for. He either won't tolerate it or not stand for it. That should go over real well with congress and the rest of the planet. Nah - he'll go to 'scorched earth' tactics and hold his breath!!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #36 August 21, 2008 GOP spelling tip of the day: lose and loose have entirely different meanings (and by association loser and looser). . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #37 August 21, 2008 Oh.. shush you................ there is no entertainment value in that... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #38 August 21, 2008 QuoteGOP spelling tip of the day: lose and loose have entirely different meanings (and by association loser and looser). I try my best to understand how one can keep fucking up the simplest words and I still don't get it. I guess the best explanation is laziness (I would hate to say it's also stupidity, so I won't say that). It at least gives me an excuse to scroll past someone's post. Now if you could tell me what the fuck "sprinked" means, I'd be quite grateful. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #39 August 21, 2008 Men are happy to be laughed at for their humor, but not for their folly. -JS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #40 August 21, 2008 QuoteNow if you could tell me what the fuck "sprinked" means, I'd be quite grateful. No idea, but I suspect it happens a lot to Australians. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #41 August 21, 2008 QuoteIs there a subject to this thread? I think Lawrocket started on one but that one post is about as far as it's gone. And on that issue Lawrocket, I heard a discussion about polls recently that I hadn't heard mentioned in a few months. It dealt with the fact that traditional phone polling techniques are having trouble with the younger demographic. Many folks in their 20's and early 30's don't have land lines. They only use cell phones and therefore are not readily reachable. I'd be curious as to whether or not that has a significant effect on the results of modern polls. This may be signficant, but it doesn't change that even without the cell phone voters, he was leading before, and now he's not. However, it's still pretty early in the process given that neither party has had their convention yet. They're definitely scheduled late this year, odd given how early the primaries were. The young vote is the mystery of the election - will they show up in November when it counts, or will they support the older models that presume they'll go drinking instead. Preelection polling accuracy will depend on how closely the guess the turnout of the 18-29 crowd. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #42 August 22, 2008 sorry, I figure the word might be close enough for anyone to get the point. I must be mistaken. WAFJ "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #43 August 22, 2008 QuoteI mean who would want to know how a candidate would deal with the economy or health care or foreign policy when there are ears, clothing, and wives to talk about? What?!? He has multiple wives? Is he Muslim or something?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skittles_of_SDC 0 #44 August 22, 2008 Quote I care that he fully supported the gun bans in Illinois - IMO in direct violation of the constitution. THAT concerns me a great deal. if you want guns go ahead and vote for McCain and then go sign up for the service that way you get to shoot guns all day for the next, we'll say, 4 years.Cause in case you haven't been paying attention hes not exactly making an exit plan priority. Edited to add: FWIW, IL is 9 out of 50 for gun safety. one last edit to add source: http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/state/viewstate.php?st=il Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #45 August 22, 2008 Quote Quote Is there a subject to this thread? I think Lawrocket started on one but that one post is about as far as it's gone. And on that issue Lawrocket, I heard a discussion about polls recently that I hadn't heard mentioned in a few months. It dealt with the fact that traditional phone polling techniques are having trouble with the younger demographic. Many folks in their 20's and early 30's don't have land lines. They only use cell phones and therefore are not readily reachable. I'd be curious as to whether or not that has a significant effect on the results of modern polls. This may be signficant, but it doesn't change that even without the cell phone voters, he was leading before, and now he's not. However, it's still pretty early in the process given that neither party has had their convention yet. They're definitely scheduled late this year, odd given how early the primaries were. The young vote is the mystery of the election - will they show up in November when it counts, or will they support the older models that presume they'll go drinking instead. Preelection polling accuracy will depend on how closely the guess the turnout of the 18-29 crowd. Nah...what's gonna matter is the southern dems when they get behind the curtain.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #46 August 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuote"BH Obama"? Please. And please don't insult our intelligence by innocently saying "but it's accurate, isn't it?" We're not fucking morons, and you're no Ann Coulter. What am I missing? Is there a concealed insult in "BH Obama"? Honestly askin', here... I am "guessing" it is the middle name thingy. Guess I should have posted BHO. But the "H" should be left out. So, using "W" must have been an insult too? That's what I was guessing, too. Evidently even when those who dislike Obama use his INITIAL, we're still harping on the whole "Hussein" thing. Face it, folks, Americans rightly don't want a president with that kind of name. Anyone who tells you otherwise obviously thinks you're a moron.Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #47 August 22, 2008 QuoteQuote So, using "W" must have been an insult too? 1) Everyone knows, including you, that the reason "H" is used is to imply an association with Islam. It plays with the Islamophobia propagation. Using "H" or "BHO" or "Hussein" during the political discussions is this season's version of the "Iraq" and "al Qaeda" and "9/11" juxtaposition. It's the guy's fucking name, and you are acting like using it is off-limits because it's pandering to islamaphobia. Sorry, using the guy's actual fucking name is not some kind of unfair swipe at him. If he doesn't like what people think when they think of his actual name, the fucker should CHANGE IT!!Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #48 August 22, 2008 Quote Quote Everything listed (except his ears) IS fair game. His wife was campaining for him. Any presidents judgement and associations SHOULD be looked at. If not at least those, what then should be looked at? Maybe his ideas on health care, energy, taxes, government waste, foreign policy, education, veterans, immigration, civil rights, etc. Gee, let's see... - He wants everyone to have health care - He wants us to have abundant energy - He wants people to have to pay as little as possible in taxes - He opposes government waste - He wants us to have peace with the other nations of the world - He wants everyone to get a quality education - He thinks we should take good care of our veterans - He thinks we should be able to enforce our immigration laws - He thinks everyone is entitled to protection of their civil rights WOW, how DIFFERENT his beliefs are from what every OTHER politician avows to stand for! Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #49 August 22, 2008 QuoteIt's the guy's fucking name, and you are acting like using it is off-limits because it's pandering to islamaphobia. Sorry, using the guy's actual fucking name is not some kind of unfair swipe at him. If he doesn't like what people think when they think of his actual name, the fucker should CHANGE IT!! You're now the 2nd person in this thread who's insulted the intelligence of the rest of us over this issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #50 August 22, 2008 Quote Quote It's the guy's fucking name, and you are acting like using it is off-limits because it's pandering to islamaphobia. Sorry, using the guy's actual fucking name is not some kind of unfair swipe at him. If he doesn't like what people think when they think of his actual name, the fucker should CHANGE IT!! You're now the 2nd person in this thread who's insulted the intelligence of the rest of us over this issue. this topic is a touchy one for you. And I recognize the "I am insulted so shut up" political correct type tactic. Sorry you let yourself be insulted so easily but, your attempt to silence will (as it should) failMake it what you want but I think you are wrong. The only reason I can see anybody get riled up over this is they see it slipping away...............again"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites