Can we all get along

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I was overwhelmed recently by the poll here asking McCain vs. Obama. Obama seems to think that the world can all get along if we just sit down and talk. We can't, and it's not our call. McCain recognizes that. What do yall think?

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I was overwhelmed recently by the poll here asking McCain vs. Obama. Obama seems to think that the world can all get along if we just sit down and talk. We can't, and it's not our call. McCain recognizes that. What do yall think?

It's kind of like skydiving fatalities. While we can't really eliminate all of them, we should work like that's our goal.

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[StreetScooby 5]

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...we should work like that's our goal.

Agreed 100%.

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[billvon 3,120]

>Obama seems to think that the world can all get along if we just sit
>down and talk. We can't, and it's not our call. McCain recognizes that.

If the two options are a president who believes that we can get along with other nations without periodic wars, and a president who believes war is essential - I'm going with the one who thinks jaw-jaw is better than war-war.

[StreetScooby 5]

As nasty as this sounds, sometimes the world needs a clear winner. The world is not a nice safe place. I'd rather someone think we can, and will, kick their ass rather than jaw-jaw until their's nothing left to jaw-jaw about.

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[mnealtx 0]

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> jaw-jaw is better than war-war.

"We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire. Neither the sudden shock of battle nor the long-drawn trials of vigilance and exertion will wear us down. Give us the tools and we will finish the job."

"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. "

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[VTmotoMike08 0]

Of course we can all get along.
As soon as you all start agreeing with me?
See how simple that is!

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> jaw-jaw is better than war-war.

"We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire. Neither the sudden shock of battle nor the long-drawn trials of vigilance and exertion will wear us down. Give us the tools and we will finish the job."

"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. "

Both simplistic rhetoric, and both can be achieved without violence.

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[StreetScooby 5]

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And rarely is the fight worth it.

No argument there.

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As nasty as this sounds, sometimes the world needs a clear winner. The world is not a nice safe place. I'd rather someone think we can, and will, kick their ass rather than jaw-jaw until their's nothing left to jaw-jaw about.

The problem with being the guy to beat is that people come from all over to try until, inevitibly, someone succeeds. Jaw-jaw is far superior to war-war when it comes to foreign policy.

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[mnealtx 0]

This, of course, makes the assumption that the 'jaw-jaw' is effective.

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This, of course, makes the assumption that the 'jaw-jaw' is effective.

And that assumes all of the people involved in the "jaw-jaw" are rational. If only it were so.

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[grimmie 186]

"jaw-jaw" first with the backing of the US Military should always do the job.

[StreetScooby 5]

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"jaw-jaw" first with the backing of the US Military should always do the job.

Let's hope. I agree with this statement completely.

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[jcd11235 0]

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And that assumes all of the people involved in the "jaw-jaw" are rational. If only it were so.

Obama offers a pretty good chance of bringing both intelligence and rationality back to the Oval Office, after their eight year absence.

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[StreetScooby 5]

Just because you speak well doesn't mean you're capable of making difficult decisions. He's advocating change. How? By raising taxes? Having everyone hold hands and sing kumbayah(sp?). I think it'll be a disaster if he's elected.

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Just because you speak well doesn't mean you're capable of making difficult decisions.

I guess it's quite fortunate that it isn't a difficult decision choosing between Obama and McCain.

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> jaw-jaw is better than war-war.

"We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire. Neither the sudden shock of battle nor the long-drawn trials of vigilance and exertion will wear us down. Give us the tools and we will finish the job."

"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. "

So. You should go looking for trouble? Let's see. I'm afraid my neighbor might kill me. I'll go kill him first?

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[mnealtx 0]

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> jaw-jaw is better than war-war.

"We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire. Neither the sudden shock of battle nor the long-drawn trials of vigilance and exertion will wear us down. Give us the tools and we will finish the job."

"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. "

So. You should go looking for trouble? Let's see. I'm afraid my neighbor might kill me. I'll go kill him first?

Not at all - just pointing out that 'jaw-jaw' isn't ALWAYS better than 'war-war' - ask the city fathers of Carthage how well 'jaw-jaw' worked out for them.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[billvon 3,120]

> This, of course, makes the assumption that the 'jaw-jaw' is effective.

No, it doesn't. The two are not exclusive - and I prefer a leader who always uses their brain first and their military's muscles second.

[billvon 3,120]

>Let's see. I'm afraid my neighbor might kill me. I'll go kill him first?

Or more accurately in this case -

I'm afraid my neighbor might kill me. I'll kill my other neighbor's dog first, and let the murderous neighbor live in a friend's house.

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I was overwhelmed recently by the poll here asking McCain vs. Obama. Obama seems to think that the world can all get along if we just sit down and talk. We can't, and it's not our call. McCain recognizes that. What do yall think?

I think, "No, we will never be able to all get along."

If we were to get along, we'd have to all be so alike that we look at others and see ourselves. That's not going to happen--it requires ultimate homogeneity.

OR, "getting along" would simply require that each group of those who are alike would have to live in isolation from the others. What I mean by that is each country, or culture, would have to occupy a geographic area and stay there, not interacting with others. But that can NEVER happen, because what society is willing to forget that the rest of the world ever existed? What if one culture somewhere started to do some really really horrible things to the world, like extensive, repeated above-ground nuclear testing, and the others realized it? Bye bye "everyone getting along."

We are MADE to compete, not to get along. That's our reality; it may end up being our doom, but hey, we were not in charge of choosing our makeup when we came into being. That was thrust on us as-is.

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[ErricoMalatesta 0]

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We are MADE to compete, not to get along.

You better inform the anthropologists and other social science departments about your break through discovery. I'm sure they will be interested to review your mountain of counter evidence to the idea that in most cases people actually do get along quite well.

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