kelpdiver 2 #26 August 12, 2008 Quote The USA has only been around a few hundred years, and has almost half a billion people! whoa, that's quite a rounding error! 305M would need to increase by 64% to be at half a billion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #27 August 12, 2008 QuoteDo you think it was a mistake that China was awarded the Olympics? Yes i do. However the reality of life is when you become powerful enough the rules does not apply to you even if you do enforce the rules on others. China is the same thing. They are such a huge power right now and getting bigger that they can get away with a lot. Much like we do.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #28 August 13, 2008 Quote>With the way overpopulation is projected to devastate the world in very >little time, one of the best things we could do would be to NOT try to "help" >mortality rates, folks. 1) Mortality rates are not the same as birthrates. Pollution that kills people in their early 40's does very little to slow down birthrate. No, my point was that we are cutting our own throats when we try to keep more and more people alive. I'm referring to trying to end the starvation and disease that plagues Africa, for example. Imagine if we did succeed and greatly mitigated the rate at which people are dying over there... Instead of becoming corpses that consume nothing, they would remain living people who consume and pollute, added to the rest of us who were not previously starving or dying of malaria and dysentery, etc. Quote2) The best thing we can do is stop devastating the world. That is a much better solution than hoping people (including your own countrymen) die. Well, it's one way of addressing it. Think of the extra work we'd be creating for ourselves (not so much work, but impossible difficulty) if at the same time as we work to consume less, or find better sources for what we do consume, we are actively working to keep people around to be consumers longer.Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #29 August 13, 2008 QuoteYou can be sure that when a high proportion of chinese drive cars, they will be of low emmision and will be mostly less than 1300cc or zero emmission. You are predicting that they will drive vehicles that exist only as a concept? What is a zero-emission car? Where is a zero-emission car? If a car does not emit any pollution, then it has to have been charged with the energy that will push it around, and that energy will have come from somewhere If it came out of their wall socket, you have to look at what their local power plant burns to make that energy. Is it coal? Oil? Nuclear? Wind? If it's wind, fine, then yeah, we got the energy clean and for free. But if it's anything else, there was pollution involved, even if it does not come from a tailpipe.Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
