Butters 0 #101 August 7, 2008 Quote The DP deters ignorant criminals from following the same foot steps as the dead guy! Do you have any proof that the death penalty acts as a deterrent? I won't hold my breath ... "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #102 August 7, 2008 Quote If you dont like our laws in Texas, then PLEASE dont come Apparently even the people in charge of enforcing the laws in Texas don't like them, otherwise they'd have followed the law and advised this guy of his right to consular support. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #103 August 7, 2008 QuoteDo you have any proof that the death penalty acts as a deterrent? Proof is a strong word. Here's some studies. http://www.dpinfo.com/death_penalty_as_a_deterrent.htm . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #104 August 7, 2008 QuoteIf a US citizen is visiting a foreign country, they are NOT protected by US laws, they are subject to the laws of the land they are visiting. I agree with you 110%, but I think the gist of this whole case is that the authorities, US, failed to tell Medellin that he had the right to seek help from his Consulate. Put aside the DP and this hideous crime. According the the treaty we signed if you are arrested overseas you have the right to inform your consulate of your situation. I'm not saying the case should be overturned, but if an American was overseas and this right was not granted everyone here would be up in arms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #105 August 7, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe DP deters ignorant criminals from following the same foot steps as the dead guy! So to you, the deterrent value is worth executing some innocents? Our system is not perfect (like you) but it does the best it can. So someone somewhere may have been killed that was not guilty, but shit happens. I 100% believe in the DP!Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #106 August 7, 2008 QuoteSo someone somewhere may have been killed that was not guilty Yea, "someone somewhere" -- I think I see where you're coming from. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #107 August 7, 2008 Quote Quote The DP deters ignorant criminals from following the same foot steps as the dead guy! Do you have any proof that the death penalty acts as a deterrent? I won't hold my breath ... Proof is in the eye of the beholder. And would never let me pressent enought "PROOF" to make you believe so i could care less to try. But it is commen sence.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #108 August 7, 2008 ITs all good till its him on the other side of that shit happens coin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #109 August 7, 2008 Quote If you dont like our laws in Texas, then PLEASE dont come Apparently even the people in charge of enforcing the laws in Texas don't like them, otherwise they'd have followed the law and advised this guy of his right to consular support. Blues, Dave Yea i know we still have some liberals in Texas, I promise i dont mind if they leaveNothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skittles_of_SDC 0 #110 August 7, 2008 Finally Texas gets its right. If they didn't execute him he would have been murdered by other inmates anyway. Glad one more of those assholes is gone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #111 August 7, 2008 Quote ITs all good till its him on the other side of that shit happens coin. You and you liberal friends can always dreamNothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #112 August 7, 2008 QuoteQuoteSo someone somewhere may have been killed that was not guilty Yea, "someone somewhere" -- I think I see where you're coming from. Then please present some cases where inocent people where put to death. I am not questioning that it happen, but you act as if it is a regular happening. Please tell me if i am wrong.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #113 August 7, 2008 QuoteTo all you winers out there. The DP deters ignorant criminals from following the same foot steps as the dead guy! Care to prove it? Ah, never mind. I see ya got nothin'.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #114 August 7, 2008 Quote Quote To all you winers out there. The DP deters ignorant criminals from following the same foot steps as the dead guy! Care to prove it? Ah, never mind. I see ya got nothin'. I see you are not good at research! As long as you beleive in yourselfNothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #115 August 7, 2008 QuoteTo all you winers out there. The DP deters ignorant criminals from following the same foot steps as the dead guy! How many people do you suppose find themselves staring down the barrel of the gun thinking "I'd pull the trigger for life in prison, but since I could be executed in 15 years, I won't"? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #116 August 7, 2008 QuoteThen please present some cases where inocent people where put to death. I am not questioning that it happen, but you act as if it is a regular happening. Please tell me if i am wrong. You could start here, if you really care. http://www.innocenceproject.org/know/ . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #117 August 7, 2008 Quote You and you liberal friends can always dream AS Ronnie Ray Gun once said.. "There you go again" I guess in your mind 90% of this country is liberal.. that must really fuck with your head man Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #118 August 7, 2008 Quote Quote You and you liberal friends can always dream AS Ronnie Ray Gun once said.. "There you go again" I guess in your mind 90% of this country is liberal.. that must really fuck with your head man No i dont believe that. I know were the majority of liberals are! But (i beleive) a good protion of the country is conservative. Its just that the liberal cry untill they get there way or are on TV. can anybody say ACLU????? But then again the media is liberal so they control most of the air waves (so it is not hard to get a liberal message on TV or the big screen). The only thing that fucks with my head is that there are so many people out there that can beleive such stupid ignorant liberal shit!Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #119 August 7, 2008 QuoteQuoteTo all you winers out there. The DP deters ignorant criminals from following the same foot steps as the dead guy! How many people do you suppose find themselves staring down the barrel of the gun thinking "I'd pull the trigger for life in prison, but since I could be executed in 15 years, I won't"? Blues, Dave I know you would love point all crimes to guns, but that is not what i said! There are alot of crimes you can get the DP for in Texas not just gun crimes.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #120 August 7, 2008 QuoteQuoteThen please present some cases where inocent people where put to death. I am not questioning that it happen, but you act as if it is a regular happening. Please tell me if i am wrong. You could start here, if you really care. http://www.innocenceproject.org/know/ I know all about DNA testing showing that people are inocent. As a mater of fact close to were i live "Dallas, Tx", just got a new distruct attorney. He did alot of DNA testing when he got into office. He found some inocent people in jail serving time. As i recall none that were found inocent, where up for DP. We are talking about the DP not just people in jail. In general people that get the DP are 100% gilty. A jury will not give the DP unless they are 110% convinced that they are guilty.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skittles_of_SDC 0 #121 August 7, 2008 Quote...But then again the media is liberal so they control most of the air waves ... You know most of the news outlets in this country are owned by somewhere around 5 large companies? News Corp would be one of those. They are probably one of the bigger ones and they are extremely conservative. Just something to think about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #122 August 7, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteTo all you winers out there. The DP deters ignorant criminals from following the same foot steps as the dead guy! How many people do you suppose find themselves staring down the barrel of the gun thinking "I'd pull the trigger for life in prison, but since I could be executed in 15 years, I won't"? Blues, Dave I know you would love point all crimes to guns, but that is not what i said! There are alot of crimes you can get the DP for in Texas not just gun crimes. You obviously don't know my position on guns, and my point still stands. Do you think there's a man who's looked down at his dick and said "I'd rape this bitch with this thing if all I was risking was life in prison, but since I could be executed in 15 years, I won't"? I *seriously* doubt anyone's ever had that conversation with themself, in Texas or otherwise. And if criminals WERE prone to such considerations, what drove Ted Bundy to do it again, and again, and again? Blues, LDave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #123 August 7, 2008 >I know were the majority of liberals are! But (i beleive) a good >protion of the country is conservative. 20% of the country is vehemently conservative, and follow in lockstep with anything Bush says. 20% is vehemently liberal, and uses democraticunderground as their bible. The rest don't really care that much about politics, and are not defined by either label. >Its just that the liberal cry untill they get there way or are on TV. So do conservatives. Can anyone say Coulter, Malkin or Limbaugh? >The only thing that fucks with my head is that there are so many people >out there that can beleive such stupid ignorant liberal shit! Yep, just as there are people out there who believe the most asinine conservative crap. Some people will believe anything as long as it agrees with their preconceptions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 898 #124 August 7, 2008 you need more accurate datum. It's almost humorous how most people trust our judicial system having never used it or gotten involved with it in any manner. It's not the system we take for granted. I still think it's one of the best on the planet, but not without HUGE problems. THAT is why I don't like state sponsored blood on my hands. I used to believe in the death penalty until I learned more about the system. Growing older made me see things differently too. We do arrest, charge, try, and convict innocent people a LOT more often than most people realize. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #125 August 7, 2008 QuoteIn general people that get the DP are 100% gilty. "In general" leaves a lot of room for error, and those errors have occurred quite a bit it seems. BTW, the site I pointed you to refers to specific DP cases, as well as other kinds of cases. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
