riddler 0 #176 August 7, 2008 Quote The only acceptable Bible is the Authorized King James version...all other versions are perversions. Would that include the versions of the bible that came before King James? I mean the King James bible was completed in 1611, and was a new translation by the Hampton Court Conference of earlier versions of the bible. Is that how God does things? He evolves his own written word?Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #177 August 7, 2008 the others were smut, nothing more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #178 August 7, 2008 Quote Quote P.S. If a guy went to confession on Sunday, committed sins on Friday, and would have gone to confession again on Sunday but gets MURDERED on Saturday in a state of SIN, he goes to hell, right? But his murderer gets to languish on Death Row for 22 years, finds Jesus, confesses his sins, accepts the Savior, and goes to Heaven. THIS is the TRIPE that you people believe is the system set up by a fair, all-knowing, loving, forgiving God? This is a very literal interpretation of Catholicism. And a bit simplistic - the killer would have to actually repent when he confesses his sin, not just do a death bed 'Hail Jesus'. As for the murdered man getting stuck in purgatory, I would think that the strict must confess was driven much more by the Church wanting people to show for confession regularly (in part to collect money in the older days), rather than a belief that God was that inflexible. Well, how is anyone to separate what the Church twisted around from what comes straight from God's mouth? The Church represents it all as the word of God. There are no footnotes that say, "*Don't take this part literally." It seems very clear, lately, that whenever critics of Church doctrine appear with valid criticism, the religious folks blush and say, "Oh, THAT part was never meant to be taken literally." It's a preposterous cop-out. Now, as for this "purgatory" thing, I thought the murdered guy would go to HELL if he died in a state of unconfessed sin. Now you say he goes to some quasi-hell? What exactly is purgatory? And wasn't the idea of it introduced a while after the whole story was told? I thought purgatory was a sort of "recent creation" of the Church. IF that is correct, then I would ask, how the hell can anyone put faith in the idea that purgatory is a legitimate part of God's structure for the afterlife if it remained an undisclosed one all that time before finally being spoken of? Once again, seems like a total cop-out. Quote A few of you heathens (and I'm one) are just as crazed sounding as our Canadian Nostradamus. Live and let live. Everyone can have their own understanding of the universe, up to the point where they wish to impose it on the rest of us. But some people's "understanding" specifically tells them they're not allowed to leave everyone else alone. See the Catch-22? But if it were up to the atheists, that IS how it would be.Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #179 August 7, 2008 Quote Yes...I certainly do accept the Bible as the WORD of Almighty God, every single word is there by His design, and it is NOT the work of man, but of God. Even though it has been translated numerous times BY MANKIND? I marvel at your inability to realize how preposterous that firm belief sounds. Somehow you gloss right over the necessary realization that the Bible--if it ever was written by God--was taken out of God's hands LONG ago. And it stands to reason that the most recent revision would be the most perverted from the original truth! Quote After the end of this 6th day, will come the Day of The Lord, the seventh, which lies between this world and the next world. In case you are not aware of it, there have been countless worlds on this earth before this world, and there will be countless worlds after this world has ended....which is sooner than mankind realizes. This is too amusing. I feel dirty, watching you run on like this. It's like watching a handicapped person labor at something ordinary folk can do with ease. It makes you feel horrible about wanting to watch it. Quote Its not a question of holding " all the power", but being able to talk to God is something anyone can do, if he or she has faith and Spiritual understanding. ...or is a loonie. Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #180 August 7, 2008 on has to admit that bill cole is still good for a hearty laugh - and that is quite an accomplishement in s.c. The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #181 August 7, 2008 Quote This is too amusing. I feel dirty, watching you run on like this. It's like watching a handicapped person labor at something ordinary folk can do with ease. It makes you feel horrible about wanting to watch it. Quote Its not a question of holding " all the power", but being able to talk to God is something anyone can do, if he or she has faith and Spiritual understanding. ...or is a loonie. Your replies to an old man, with a Granddaughter with DS, makes me feel filthy. I'm contemplating a ban just to fully explain what I mean. Because I don't think you can figure it out. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #182 August 7, 2008 as you are not green there is no way of banning others as for clueless bill - @ kelpdiver: are you serious or is it me who doesn't get a joke? The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #183 August 7, 2008 Quote The only acceptable Bible is the Authorized King James version...all other versions are perversions. Why do you think the KJV is the correct version?? What about the manuscripts that it was translated from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #184 August 7, 2008 Quote Yes...I certainly do accept the Bible as the WORD of Almighty God, every single word is there by His design, and it is NOT the work of man, but of God. The only acceptable Bible is the Authorized King James version...all other versions are perversions. Yes....He created everything in ONE day, which He saw fit to divide into 6 days. Each "day" is NOT 24 hours, but a time which we cannot know. However, having said that, we are still living in the 6th dayof creation, and man ( in God's image) was the final act of God's creation; making man in His own image, and man became a living soul . After the end of this 6th day, will come the Day of The Lord, the seventh, which lies between this world and the next world. In case you are not aware of it, there have been countless worlds on this earth before this world, and there will be countless worlds after this world has ended....which is sooner than mankind realizes. Yes....it is good to be able to talk with God....I do so every day, and I KNOW FOR CERTAIN that He hears me, and is aware of what I say to Him. Its not a question of holding " all the power", but being able to talk to God is something anyone can do, if he or she has faith and Spiritual understanding. What a bunch of contrived-out-of-need-for-convenience BS." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #185 August 7, 2008 Quote Quote I just watched this news clip http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20080805/video/vwl-world-primates-facing-extinction-15af341.html in which they take Darwins theory of evolution . . . The book is about Natural Selection. It is a fact. The theory is evolution. It is as solid and well investigated; probably as much as any theory in the history of scientific investigation; but it wrankles long held Neolithic beliefs and so is resisted by faith as much as it is substantiated by investigation. Origin of Species uses the word evolution only once; and it is at the very end. Also; it's common ancestors, not one from the other." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #186 August 7, 2008 Quote Quote The only acceptable Bible is the Authorized King James version...all other versions are perversions. Would that include the versions of the bible that came before King James? I mean the King James bible was completed in 1611, and was a new translation by the Hampton Court Conference of earlier versions of the bible. Is that how God does things? He evolves his own written word? Yes, engaged in by the writers and interpreters whenever it was/is convenieint. The whole His-day-is-not-the-same-as-your-day revelation came once the whole 6-day creation thing was so painfully obviously claptrap that some new twist needed to be added." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #187 August 7, 2008 Quote What exactly is purgatory? And wasn't the idea of it introduced a while after the whole story was told? I thought purgatory was a sort of "recent creation" of the Church. It's like the 15 day disabled list, except you can't ever be removed. You are correct, the Catholic Church invented it in order to stay within roster limits late in the season without Islam claiming people on waivers." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #188 August 7, 2008 You are partly correct. The original manuscripts were guided by the hand of God to come together in London England, to be translated into the King James Bible in 1607 to 1611. As some other person said above, they were written by mankind....which is true, but under the direction of God. I KNOW without the slightest doubt, tha the KJV is the ONLY Bible that is totally God's WORD, there is NO other, just as there is no other God... .However, there are many false gods such as are held in esteem by Islam, Buddism, Hare Krishna, Sihkism, Shintoism, and the endless list of false gods that men have foolishly followed. Before a few more years( very few) are passed, everyone on earth will be required to worship another false god, the image of the beast that was wounded by the ( atomic sword ) and did live ( Japan), and for those who refuse, they will be put to death. Read Revelation 13:3, 14, 15. This image of the beast, is ionly a part of the end times beast, which also includes France, England, Russia, and China ( and a couple of others), (See Revelation 13:1, 2 ). A person will not be able to buy or sell anything unless they submit to this false god, nor receive government support in any manner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #189 August 7, 2008 Yes, purgatory is another of the Catholic Church's false doctrines. Another is telling people the lie that priets , Cardinals, and Popes can forgive sins. That is something only Jesus Christ can do, and it is ridiculously false to think a sinner such as the anyone from the Priests to the Pope, can forgive sins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #190 August 7, 2008 In answer to your ridiculous assertions, Here are the words of God : Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, the people in whose heart is my law; fear ye not the reproach of man, neither be ye afraid of their revilings, For the moth shall eat them up like a garment, and the worm shall eat them like wool, but my righteousness shall be FOREVER, and my salvation from (world) generation to (world ) generation (Isaiah 51:7-8) And here is the words of Jesus Christ: Blessed are ye, when man shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad, for so they persecuted the prophets which were before you, ( Matthew 5:11-12 ). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #191 August 7, 2008 You all don't know how it all works. Let me explain it ... God creates the world from the emptiness (Day 1 through 6). Brahman reincarnates everyone from the emptiness into the world (Middle of day 6). God has the rapture (End of Day 6). The Flying Spaghetti Monster hosts a feast (Beginning of day 7). Buddha takes everyone into the emptiness and waits for the cycle to start all over again (End of day 7) ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #192 August 7, 2008 Quote However, there are many false gods such as are held in esteem by Islam, Buddism, Hare Krishna, Sihkism, Shintoism, and the endless list of false gods that men have foolishly followed. Muslims worship the exact same god that Jews worship. Buddhists don't worship any god.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VTmotoMike08 0 #193 August 7, 2008 Ya know, I think we should just all stop replying to chuteless. Kinda like a boycott. His remarks are like the troll that keeps on giving, but its still kinda funny because he _ACTUALLY_ believes everything he writes. Woah. I'm cracking up too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #194 August 7, 2008 That's nice. But how do you know this to be true?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #195 August 7, 2008 could i as a non-believer still say "amen" to that? The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #196 August 7, 2008 WRONG Muslims do NOT worship the same God as do the Jews. The Jews worship Jehovah Muslims worship Allah...not the same at all. Muslims believe that if they kill Jews, they will go to paradise and live with a harem of virgins...absolute nonsense. Almighty God, Jehovah Tsidkenu, does not suggest that you kill Jews, as a matter of fact, God has said, I will bless them that bless you ( the Jews) and I will curse them that curse you. Two different beliefs...two substantially different Gods. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #197 August 7, 2008 Give it your best shot. However, if you choose not to reply, then you would stop showing your ignorance...and that would be nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #198 August 7, 2008 Quote WRONG Muslims do NOT worship the same God as do the Jews. The Jews worship Jehovah Muslims worship Allah...not the same at all. It's the same God. The the argument is over which of Abraham's children is the favorite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #199 August 7, 2008 WRONG Muslims do NOT worship the same God as do the Jews. The Jews worship Jehovah Muslims worship Allah...not the same at all. It's NOT the same at all....and furthermore, Mohammed was a murderer of the Jews. He was not a prophet, and he only began his "false religion" about the year 600+ - a few years. It uis totally a false religion worshipping a false god. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #200 August 7, 2008 That's nice. But how do you know this to be true?? _______________________________________________ I'm not sure what you were referring to, but whatever it was, its because God's words have made it very clear to those who have Spiritual understanding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
