Andy_Copland 0 #1 July 30, 2008 http://www.break.com/index/how-to-slow-a-biker-down.html\ Take that criminal.1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MiataMan 0 #2 July 30, 2008 QuoteTake that criminal. You mean the cop, right? http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0729081bike1.html http://www.myfoxny.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7080407&version=7&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1 It will be interesting to find out who did what.A man without a mustache is like a hamburger without a bun, Un-American. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #3 July 30, 2008 Interesting to find out? Geez!the cop had to accelerate, and intercept, as well as get low and deliver the shot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #4 July 30, 2008 It makes me sick that some of these retards are given a gun let alone a badge. That was absolutely disgusting.1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #5 July 31, 2008 And today's video http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/07/31/levs.police.video.cnn Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #6 July 31, 2008 QuoteIt makes me sick that some of these retards are given a gun let alone a badge. Well, he is suspended and hopefully assault charges will be coming. There are some worthless people that make it through department's hiring processes. Thankfully they don't typically last long and are relieved of their employment.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #7 July 31, 2008 QuoteLong was arrested and charged with attempted assault, resisting arrest, and disorderly conduct. The criminal complaint against him claims he deliberately steered his bicycle into the officer, causing both of them to fall to the ground. Good lord! Makes you shudder to think what some cops must get away with when there are no cameras around doesn't it. Hope the internal investigation has a better outcome than the one that followed this crash!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #8 August 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteLong was arrested and charged with attempted assault, resisting arrest, and disorderly conduct. The criminal complaint against him claims he deliberately steered his bicycle into the officer, causing both of them to fall to the ground. Good lord! Makes you shudder to think what some cops must get away with when there are no cameras around doesn't it. With all the surveillance cameras going up, one would think things might improve --- except --- who gets to control the tapes?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #9 August 1, 2008 Most officers I know record much of what they due with digital pocket recorders and/or with their in car video. This is to protect themselves against complaints, since with out a recording much of the time the administration sides with the citizen's complaint.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #10 August 1, 2008 QuoteMost officers I know record much of what they due with digital pocket recorders and/or with their in car video. This is to protect themselves against complaints, since with out a recording much of the time the administration sides with the citizen's complaint. Would that include recording themselves assaulting a cyclist? Or do you think their recording might accidentally get erased if they did that? "The case of the missing 18 minutes" comes to mind.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #11 August 1, 2008 Blaming Nixon, even now? Oh the humanity! BTW I bet you think he was an awful President. These days we wish we would have had him back in office, alive of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #12 August 1, 2008 QuoteBlaming Nixon, even now? . For what did I blame him? Quote BTW I bet you think he was an awful President. These days we wish we would have had him back in office, alive of course. Well, despite being a crook he was better than Bush, that's for sure.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #13 August 1, 2008 Something doesn't fit here. I'm not condoning the actions of the cop but the problem with little snippets of video is they don't show the whole story. I can't help but think the cops were targeting this individual for something else he had done prior to the cameras rolling. There are 20 cyclists he could have done the same thing to but he was gunning for this particular rider.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #14 August 1, 2008 QuoteWould that include recording themselves assaulting a cyclist? Or do you think their recording might accidentally get erased if they did that? "The case of the missing 18 minutes" comes to mind. Most modern DVR patrol systems are inaccessible to literally all of patrol. Only admin can access the disk to erase or change anything. They systems automatically download to a secure server from the patrol car. You think all cops are crooked, and you used to be a cop (so you say), so I guess you were a crooked cop. Makes sense, since to have such a guilty conscious all the time about police officers. Its like I've previously said. There are hundreds of thousands of law enforcement officers in the US. Less than 1/2 of 1% make "choices" like this guy did. Unfortunately, it makes the entire law enforcement community look really bad. Thankfully those "officers" have their careers cut very short for them. So how long do you claim you were a cop Kallend?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #15 August 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteWould that include recording themselves assaulting a cyclist? Or do you think their recording might accidentally get erased if they did that? "The case of the missing 18 minutes" comes to mind. Most modern DVR patrol systems are inaccessible to literally all of patrol. Only admin can access the disk to erase or change anything. They systems automatically download to a secure server from the patrol car. You think all cops are crooked, Please provide a link to any post where I stated that.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #16 August 1, 2008 QuoteWould that include recording themselves assaulting a cyclist? Or do you think their recording might accidentally get erased if they did that? "The case of the missing 18 minutes" comes to mind. Right there, in this thread. In response to my statement in which I stated that most officers record just about every public contact they have to protect themselves against unfounded complaints, you stated that the officers would erase their recordings. That would state that the officer is less than truthful. In other words, a crooked cop. So there you go, you don't trust officers to record their own stuff as a whole. You did not quantify any subset of persons, just simply implying officers as a whole. I guess your conscious really bothers you. No wonder you don't trust law enforcement, your past must be haunting you.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #17 August 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteWould that include recording themselves assaulting a cyclist? Or do you think their recording might accidentally get erased if they did that? "The case of the missing 18 minutes" comes to mind. Right there, in this thread. In response to my statement in which I stated that most officers record just about every public contact they have to protect themselves against unfounded complaints, you stated that the officers would erase their recordings. That would state that the officer is less than truthful. In other words, a crooked cop. So there you go, you don't trust officers to record their own stuff as a whole. You did not quantify any subset of persons, just simply implying officers as a whole. I guess your conscious really bothers you. No wonder you don't trust law enforcement, your past must be haunting you. "F" for logic there, Dave. Saying that bad cops ("if they did that") will erase video of their misdeeds is not the same as saying all cops are bad.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #18 August 1, 2008 Quote"F" for logic there, Dave. Saying that bad cops will erase video of their misdeeds is not the same as saying all cops are bad. Still looks like your past is haunting you, especially with more and more posts like this. Show me one, just one, thread you started in which you gave credit to a good job by an officer somewhere. Show me where you have stated that you think officers as a whole are working hard to help society.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #19 August 1, 2008 QuoteQuote"F" for logic there, Dave. Saying that bad cops will erase video of their misdeeds is not the same as saying all cops are bad. Still looks like your past is haunting you, especially with more and more posts like this. Show me one, just one, thread you started in which you gave credit to a good job by an officer somewhere. Show me where you have stated that you think officers as a whole are working hard to help society. On the whole they are. But can we afford the 1-2% who aren't?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #20 August 1, 2008 Quotehttp://www.break.com/index/how-to-slow-a-biker-down.html\ Take that criminal. That cop just allowed that cyclist to retire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #21 August 1, 2008 QuoteBut can we afford the 1-2% who aren't? The 1/2 of 1% of the total LEO community in the US that shows to be bad apples? How do you fix it then? Most agencies have about a 6 month hiring process with polygraphs, psych evals, in depth background checks. An increase in pay nation wide will attract better quality people to the job, making the application process even more competitive, that would be the first step. Like I said, typically those bad apples have an incredibly short career. From what I've read about the guy in the video in this thread, he is a rookie and he has already been suspended. He is also facing criminal charges. Its an interesting world, its dangerous, its incredibly complex and fluid with a large amount of complicated information that has to be applied instantly and correctly. Even one minor mistake can cost a long career or result in someone's death. Seeing your hatred towards police officers, even when you claim you used to be one, makes me wonder how you actually accomplished your job and to what degree.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #22 August 1, 2008 QuoteSomething doesn't fit here. I'm not condoning the actions of the cop but the problem with little snippets of video is they don't show the whole story. I can't help but think the cops were targeting this individual for something else he had done prior to the cameras rolling. There are 20 cyclists he could have done the same thing to but he was gunning for this particular rider. I didn’t see the officer give the guy a warning or even ask him to pull over, fuck the cop didn’t even raise his hands to say stop. He just tackled the guy who looks like a young kid or a young adult at best. Who knows maybe the guy on the bike had a bigger dick then cop. I am losing more and more faith with the so-called authority figures we have. It seems everyone with power abuses it.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #23 August 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteBut can we afford the 1-2% who aren't? The 1/2 of 1% of the total LEO community in the US that shows to be bad apples? How do you fix it then? Most agencies have about a 6 month hiring process with polygraphs, psych evals, in depth background checks. An increase in pay nation wide will attract better quality people to the job, making the application process even more competitive, that would be the first step. Like I said, typically those bad apples have an incredibly short career. The cops who shot Amadou Diallo 41 times for having a wallet were exonerated. The Abner Louima, Sean Bell and Ousman Zongo cases also suggest NYPD has a problem with its cops. And then there are the Jon Burge police torture cases in Chicago that the city has brushed under the rug. Burge has never been punished.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #24 August 1, 2008 You didn't answer my question. How would YOU fix it? Dodge it all you want, but we all know that you have no idea how to fix the problem. We also know that you have no desire to fix the problem or be constructive, you just want to stir the pot. What gets me is that people who know you personally say that you're a really nice guy. I've often wondered why its not the same on the internet. I guess you feel secure behind the computer.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #25 August 1, 2008 QuoteYou didn't answer my question. How would YOU fix it? Dodge it all you want, but we all know that you have no idea how to fix the problem. We also know that you have no desire to fix the problem or be constructive, you just want to stir the pot. What gets me is that people who know you personally say that you're a really nice guy. I've often wondered why its not the same on the internet. I guess you feel secure behind the computer. First step to fixing a problem is admitting that there is one to fix. Stop defending the indefensible.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
