Check the water...The National Review supports gays?!?

[ChasingBlueSky 0]

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ODliYjkwN2RkNWExMWE5OGQxMzA2ODNlZTc5NTRhYjY=

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As a House Armed Services subcommittee surely will discuss this afternoon, Pentagon officials evidently trust military inductees with felony rap sheets more than they do law-abiding gay GIs. Having relaxed academic, age, and weight restrictions to achieve recruitment goals, the Defense Department has granted “moral waivers” to criminal convicts. Simultaneously, it uses the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy to jettison gays in uniform, usually for merely disclosing their sexuality. This policy deserves a dishonorable discharge.

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Last year, the Army gave moral waivers to 106 applicants convicted of burglary, 15 of felonious break-ins, 11 of grand-theft-auto, and eight of arson. It also admitted five rape/sexual-assault convicts, two felony child molesters, two manslaughter convicts, and two felons condemned for “terrorist threats including bomb threats.”

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Conversely, expelled military personnel include Arabic linguists and intelligence specialists who help crush America’s foes in the War on Terror. “Don’t Ask” has ousted at least 58 soldiers who speak Arabic, 50 Korean, 42 Russian, 20 Chinese, nine Farsi, and eight Serbo-Croatian — all trained at the prestigious Defense Language Institute. Al-Qaeda intercepts need translation, and Uncle Sam may need people who can walk around Tehran with open ears. Yet these dedicated gay citizens now are ex-GIs.

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“Don’t Ask” should yield to equality: Sexual orientation should be irrelevant while inappropriate sexual conduct — gay, straight, or otherwise — should be punished. Our enemies are Islamofascists who murder Americans, not gay patriots who unravel terrorist plots and introduce jihadists to Allah.

“Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” is a Clinton-era relic. It belongs in the Museum of the 1990s, wedged between the Nirvana CDs and shares of WorldCom stock.

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[Amazon 7]

They must be trying that BIG TENT thing again...gotta do something with those red-headed stepchildren

Interesting to see the Log Cabin rePUBICans at party functions....

They look so out of place and most of their fellow party members look at them like they have a contagious disease




Dont they know.... they can have a wide stance.. just dont let anyone ever find out at the country club or church

[Butters 0]

When some Special Forces members stated that homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to serve because on occasion they have to huddle together for warmth I was flabbergasted. Seriously, do Special Forces members really believe that homosexuals huddling together for warmth in a combat environment will have sexual urges and won't be able to restrain them? Seriously ...

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

[lawrocket 3]

This seems to make you angry, Jeanne. Are you saying that gays should not be allowed in the military? If so, then I respectfully disagree with you.

It's interesting that Democrat Senator Sam Nunn (whom I consider to actually be one of the most intelligent and cerebral politicians of the last century) was the most ardent in opposition. Barney Frank sought a compromise. Meanwhile, arch-conservative Barry Goldwater was a strong advocate of elimintaing the ban on homosexuality.

Yes, Jeanne, good old AuH2O. Meanwhile, Clinton backed off of his promise in favor of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.

I believe that the policy creates a homosexual men and women have served in high-level areas - areas that will include high-level security clearances, such as linguists. And high-level officers and enlisted, as well.

All of these troops are blackmail waiting to happen. "LTGEN X, this video we've got will cause quite a stir. Why don't we have us a little chat."

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[DZJ 0]

Alternatively, if there was an open culture you'd just as effectively remove a blackmailer's leverage.

[rhys 0]

I have a friend who is currently in the US military. She tells me rape is quite common in the serving community, this rape is not limited to man on women, Man on man rape is quite common also, the guys doing this horrific crime are most often 'not' open Gay people, but jock macho types.

So instead of focusing on sexual preference, more focus needs to be put on who is invading other collegues personal rights. ounishing them accordingly and making sure they don't do it again.

I was disgusted but not surprised to hear about this.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[labrys 0]

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I have a friend who is currently in the US military. She tells me rape is quite common in the serving community, this rape is not limited to man on women, Man on man rape is quite common also,

Quite common, huh? Do you have anything to add credence to that other than the word of one person no one else knows or can talk to?

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[rhys 0]

I know this girl reasonably well, and i trust what she says. she has been in the military for 4 years.

Why do you ask, do you not believe such things could happen?

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[mnealtx 0]

Probably the 'quite common' assertion. I work with the military every day - that type of issue gets a LOT of play in daily briefs when it happens.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that it never happens and ONCE is too much - but I doubt it is as prevalent as your friend makes it sound.

Mike
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[rhys 0]

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Probably the 'quite common' assertion. I work with the military every day - that type of issue gets a LOT of play in daily briefs when it happens.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that it never happens and ONCE is too much - but I doubt it is as prevalent as your friend makes it sound.

These were her words, I don't think, and she never implied that there are but fucking congo lines going on here. But rape is probably alot more comon in these military camps than we are led to believe, or is reported.

I remember watching a documentary on the subject. It was manditory that women be accomponied to the bathroom, this rule was put in place due to the frequency of such occurences.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[Amazon 7]

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This seems to make you angry, Jeanne. Are you saying that gays should not be allowed in the military? If so, then I respectfully disagree with you.

I guess the sound of sarcasm was not loud enough.

Personally I think that the discrimination against gays should have been eliminated in the armed services long ago. The military would have adapted just as they had to years ago with racial integration and equality long before the rest of America faced the same issue. Far too many valuable people have been forced out of our services for doing nothing more than wishing to serve their country honorably.

If there was no policy against it as there always has been... then there would be no blackmail issues... the red herring that they always like to roll out as the reason gay people are not allowed.

In todays world we need ALL the people who are willing and wish to serve.

[mnealtx 0]

I agree - the policy in and of itself creates the possibility of blackmail. It's stupid.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[labrys 0]

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Why do you ask, do you not believe such things could happen?

No, I believe that they can and do happen. I seriously doubt that they are "quite common", that's all.

Owned by Remi #?