maadmax 0 #151 September 6, 2008 I disagree, that is a secondary reason. The main reason religion was started is to explain the unexplainable.*** Maybe you should reread the Bible. Start with the gospel of John. _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #152 September 6, 2008 Genesis is riddled with so many inconcsistecies right out of the gate i'm embarresed for believers. Creating light and dark before the objects that produce them In Gen 1:27 god creates Adam and Eve and they do a few things and then later in 2:20-22 Adam is lonley and god creates Eve. ummm I thought eve was already there. Don't even get me started with Noah and the ark, this story is pathedic. Why is the god of the OT always killing little kids to get back at his enimeis? The bible does have some good family reading like when Lott offers his daughters to a group of angels to rape them. What about when the daughters get lot drunk to have sex with him. I guess it's just family values. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #153 September 6, 2008 QuoteGenesis is riddled with so many inconcsistecies right out of the gate i'm embarresed for believers. Creating light and dark before the objects that produce them In Gen 1:27 god creates Adam and Eve and they do a few things and then later in 2:20-22 Adam is lonley and god creates Eve. ummm I thought eve was already there. Don't even get me started with Noah and the ark, this story is pathedic. Why is the god of the OT always killing little kids to get back at his enimeis? The bible does have some good family reading like when Lott offers his daughters to a group of angels to rape them. What about when the daughters get lot drunk to have sex with him. I guess it's just family values*** Notice I mentioned the Gospel of John not Genesis. The exegesis of the Books of the Old Testament are a lot more difficult involving language, idioms, syntax, competing versions of different Jewish groups (i.e. northern and southern kingdoms) translation/copying errors. The list goes on. The old testament is very difficult to understand with only a casual reading, much like advanced calculus or quantum physics. The Gospel of John provides a much less cluttered glimpse of Spiritual phenomenon. _______________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PeregrineFalcon 0 #154 September 6, 2008 Extremely religious people don't piss me off...but when they push religion in my face or act all holy, then I get pissed. My parents did a sudden "born again" thing a couple of years ago. I don't mind it until they start trying to save me. Then it gets annoying as hell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nigel 0 #155 September 22, 2008 Dude...I'm sorry - but you clearly haven't got it. Once again...when I wrote "virtually exclusive" I meant just that, no more, no less. Had I written 'mutually exclusive', I would have fallen into the logical trap you outline. But I didn't... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bjjman 0 #156 October 1, 2008 Refer back to post 128. That's a month ago and I've made my point. Moving on with life now..."Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -Albert Einstein Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Coreece 190 #157 October 1, 2008 I think its pretty obvious that extremist of any kind would piss off most people...that is unless you are one of those who just don't give a fuck! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wS5xOZ7Rq8Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pirana 0 #158 October 1, 2008 Quote I disagree, that is a secondary reason. The main reason religion was started is to explain the unexplainable.*** Maybe you should reread the Bible. Start with the gospel of John. _________________________________________ I think they meant that in the grander scheme of things, not just relating it to Christianity - or other Abrahamic faith of choice. Religion, at it's roots and in it's beginnings (approx 8000 BC) was a combination of reverence for existing wisdom and a search for answers to unexplainable phenomena (like fire, eclipses, rainbows, floods, droughts, etc.). It is of course useless for those purposes nowadays; but old habits die hard." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pirana 0 #159 October 1, 2008 QuoteWhy do the mainstream moderates get igonored, and the Fundy Extremists get center-stage as the representatives of Christianity. Because the Fundy's are the ones trying to install their faith-based ignorance into the academic cirriculums at our schools." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #160 October 1, 2008 Religion, at it's roots and in it's beginnings (approx 8000 BC) was a combination of reverence for existing wisdom and a search for answers to unexplainable phenomena (like fire, eclipses, rainbows, floods, droughts, etc.). It is of course useless for those purposes nowadays; but old habits die hard*** Spiritual communion with God is the most valuable thing I possess. I would give up everything else before I gave that up. I would not give you anything for religion. _______________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #161 October 1, 2008 Extremely-religious or extremely-atheist people piss me off. By "extremely" I mean people who excessively preach & proselytize & try to shove their beliefs down other peoples' throats. People who want religious beliefs taught as science on the one hand, or on the other hand, people who want to judge religious beliefs as if they're supposed to be a substitute for science. The fundies on both sides suck. Also weenies who get their panties in a bunch at every religious symbol within public view. Oh and also, if some religious person come up to you & starts trying to convert you (and you don't want any part of it), just say ,"No thanks, I'm not interested." They will usually go away after that, but if they don't just repeat that phrase again. No need to get all uptight about them. And to those annoyingly-persistent proselytizers : Remember that even Jesus realized that you can't convert someone who doesn't want to join. He told his disciples as much: Not to waste your time on preaching to people who refuse to listen. And if even Jesus himself couldn't forcibly convert people, what chance do you have? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 7 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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PeregrineFalcon 0 #154 September 6, 2008 Extremely religious people don't piss me off...but when they push religion in my face or act all holy, then I get pissed. My parents did a sudden "born again" thing a couple of years ago. I don't mind it until they start trying to save me. Then it gets annoying as hell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nigel 0 #155 September 22, 2008 Dude...I'm sorry - but you clearly haven't got it. Once again...when I wrote "virtually exclusive" I meant just that, no more, no less. Had I written 'mutually exclusive', I would have fallen into the logical trap you outline. But I didn't... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bjjman 0 #156 October 1, 2008 Refer back to post 128. That's a month ago and I've made my point. Moving on with life now..."Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -Albert Einstein Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #157 October 1, 2008 I think its pretty obvious that extremist of any kind would piss off most people...that is unless you are one of those who just don't give a fuck! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wS5xOZ7Rq8Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #158 October 1, 2008 Quote I disagree, that is a secondary reason. The main reason religion was started is to explain the unexplainable.*** Maybe you should reread the Bible. Start with the gospel of John. _________________________________________ I think they meant that in the grander scheme of things, not just relating it to Christianity - or other Abrahamic faith of choice. Religion, at it's roots and in it's beginnings (approx 8000 BC) was a combination of reverence for existing wisdom and a search for answers to unexplainable phenomena (like fire, eclipses, rainbows, floods, droughts, etc.). It is of course useless for those purposes nowadays; but old habits die hard." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #159 October 1, 2008 QuoteWhy do the mainstream moderates get igonored, and the Fundy Extremists get center-stage as the representatives of Christianity. Because the Fundy's are the ones trying to install their faith-based ignorance into the academic cirriculums at our schools." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #160 October 1, 2008 Religion, at it's roots and in it's beginnings (approx 8000 BC) was a combination of reverence for existing wisdom and a search for answers to unexplainable phenomena (like fire, eclipses, rainbows, floods, droughts, etc.). It is of course useless for those purposes nowadays; but old habits die hard*** Spiritual communion with God is the most valuable thing I possess. I would give up everything else before I gave that up. I would not give you anything for religion. _______________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #161 October 1, 2008 Extremely-religious or extremely-atheist people piss me off. By "extremely" I mean people who excessively preach & proselytize & try to shove their beliefs down other peoples' throats. People who want religious beliefs taught as science on the one hand, or on the other hand, people who want to judge religious beliefs as if they're supposed to be a substitute for science. The fundies on both sides suck. Also weenies who get their panties in a bunch at every religious symbol within public view. Oh and also, if some religious person come up to you & starts trying to convert you (and you don't want any part of it), just say ,"No thanks, I'm not interested." They will usually go away after that, but if they don't just repeat that phrase again. No need to get all uptight about them. And to those annoyingly-persistent proselytizers : Remember that even Jesus realized that you can't convert someone who doesn't want to join. He told his disciples as much: Not to waste your time on preaching to people who refuse to listen. And if even Jesus himself couldn't forcibly convert people, what chance do you have? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
