Skyrad 0 #101 July 23, 2008 Quote If they love themselves, I can probably love them, too. Just check with them first before you doWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #102 July 23, 2008 QuoteIf they love themselves, I can probably love them, too. I think that’s what it all comes down too. Not just in this discussion but most relationship problems and how you threat others has a lot to do with the way you feel about your self. I can understand if people get pissed in an airplane or some where the other person’s size actually effects you directly. However when you see people with so much hate for people they don’t even know or just for the reason that they’re not skinny it says a lot more about the hater then the fatty. But there is one thing I am trying to figure out what is considered fat? Do we go by the medical definition? Are they just repulsed by the people who are so fat that they can’t even walk fast? I guess I should have asked what everyone means by fat.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #103 July 24, 2008 QuoteWhere it invokes disdain in me is when people let themselves go to the point where they cannot do physical activities they want to. Or even walk down the street. There are relatively fit big people out there, and there are very unfit scrawny people out there. But the unfit big people out there bug me. Once you give up trying, it's downhill in a hurry. What he said, but I'd add an "unfit scrawny" person bugs me equally as much. I just realized, however, I must have a greater level of repulsion for the unfit big vs. the unfit scrawny. Because, when I see an unfit scrawny person (i.e. unhealthy) I feel very sad for that person. When I seen an unfit big person I'm rather indifferent.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #104 July 24, 2008 QuoteQuoteIf they love themselves, I can probably love them, too. I think that’s what it all comes down too. Not just in this discussion but most relationship problems and how you threat others has a lot to do with the way you feel about your self. I can understand if people get pissed in an airplane or some where the other person’s size actually effects you directly. However when you see people with so much hate for people they don’t even know or just for the reason that they’re not skinny it says a lot more about the hater then the fatty. But there is one thing I am trying to figure out what is considered fat? Do we go by the medical definition? Are they just repulsed by the people who are so fat that they can’t even walk fast? I guess I should have asked what everyone means by fat. Well the thread started out as just "fat." Then someone changed it to obese almost apoligetically. Then eventually and as expected someone else chaged it to morbidly obese. What I read into this is pretty much anyone who happens to be 20+ pounds overweight is repulsive. I do agree with you that we normally will project unhappiness with our own bodies onto others. Any psychologists here care to comment on that?www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #105 July 24, 2008 I didn't realise that this thread was going to run like this, if I had then I would have been more specific in the first place. Just to be clear I never meant people who were carrying a few pounds. I mean the clinically obease. Quote I do agree with you that we normally will project unhappiness with our own bodies onto others. Other than personal experience do you have any evidence to support your theory?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #106 July 24, 2008 QuoteI do agree with you that we normally will project unhappiness with our own bodies onto others. Any psychologists here care to comment on that? I would more agree with the original statement that "it says more about the 'hater' then the fatty". A fit skinny can be all hatin' on a fatty, whilst still being perfectly happy with their own bod, however jealous of the greasy delicious slop fatty's eatin' & the I-don't-give-a-shit smile on fatty's face.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #107 July 24, 2008 Quote "it says more about the 'hater' then the fatty". It makes me laugh how people fail to see the shades of grey. Just because one is repulsed by fat people doesn't mean they hate them. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #108 July 24, 2008 Quote I didn't realise that this thread was going to run like this, if I had then I would have been more specific in the first place. Just to be clear I never meant people who were carrying a few pounds. I mean the clinically obease. Quote I do agree with you that we normally will project unhappiness with our own bodies onto others. Other than personal experience do you have any evidence to support your theory? It's an opinion and nothing more. I didn't even try to disguise it as fact. Why do you think I asked for a psychologist to comment? Which, btw, I do find amusing you left that out of the quote. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #109 July 24, 2008 Quote Quote I do agree with you that we normally will project unhappiness with our own bodies onto others. Any psychologists here care to comment on that? I would more agree with the original statement that "it says more about the 'hater' then the fatty". A fit skinny can be all hatin' on a fatty, whilst still being perfectly happy with their own bod, however jealous of the greasy delicious slop fatty's eatin' & the I-don't-give-a-shit smile on fatty's face. You are probably right. I always get giggles from the others in my martial arts class when after training I light up a cigarette. I just give em that What? I keep up with you bitches don't I? look. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #110 July 24, 2008 Fat people don't repulse me as such, but greed certainly does. As for what qualifies as 'fat', I'd say public transport is a fairly good yardstick - if your arse is four feet across and mashes your fellow commuters into the windows and doors when you sit down, I'd say there's a fair chance you're a fat bastard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #111 July 24, 2008 Quote Quote "it says more about the 'hater' then the fatty". It makes me laugh how people fail to see the shades of grey. Just because one is repulsed by fat people doesn't mean they hate them. You might want to look up repulsive on www.thesaurus.comwww.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #112 July 24, 2008 Quote Quote I didn't realise that this thread was going to run like this, if I had then I would have been more specific in the first place. Just to be clear I never meant people who were carrying a few pounds. I mean the clinically obease. Quote I do agree with you that we normally will project unhappiness with our own bodies onto others. Other than personal experience do you have any evidence to support your theory? It's an opinion and nothing more. I didn't even try to disguise it as fact. Why do you think I asked for a psychologist to comment? Which, btw, I do find amusing you left that out of the quote. As it wasn't relevant to my question.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #113 July 24, 2008 Quote Quote Quote "it says more about the 'hater' then the fatty". It makes me laugh how people fail to see the shades of grey. Just because one is repulsed by fat people doesn't mean they hate them. You might want to look up repulsive on www.thesaurus.com And you might want to look up the word Thesaurus http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=82434&dict=CALD Then the word 'similar' as in 'not the same as'When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #114 July 24, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote "it says more about the 'hater' then the fatty". It makes me laugh how people fail to see the shades of grey. Just because one is repulsed by fat people doesn't mean they hate them. You might want to look up repulsive on www.thesaurus.com And you might want to look up the word Thesaurus http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=82434&dict=CALD Then the word 'similar' as in 'not the same as' Ok then...which synonym would be more appropriae to you?www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #115 July 24, 2008 Lets try sticking to the facts. Repulsive is a word I have not used anywhere in this thread. i said that fat people repulse me. Repulse.. http://dictionary.cambridge.org/results.asp?searchword=repulse Try understanding the subtlety of the English language. This is a prime example of not seeing or simply not comprehanding the shades of grey.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #116 July 24, 2008 How's this then: dis·gust Audio Help /dɪsˈgʌst, dɪˈskʌst/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[dis-guhst, di-skuhst] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –verb (used with object) 1. to cause loathing or nausea in. 2. to offend the good taste, moral sense, etc., of; cause extreme dislike or revulsion in As in fat people fucking digust me. Is that more appropriate?Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #117 July 24, 2008 Fair enough. However you do see how your subtle use of the english language can be perceived differently than maybe you intended? Skyrad I respect you enough as a level headed poster to say this....this thread was one dumbassed idea. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #118 July 24, 2008 Jason, in hindsight I have to agree When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #119 July 24, 2008 Quote It makes me laugh how people fail to see the shades of grey. Just because one is repulsed by fat people doesn't mean they hate them. Quote You might want to look up repulsive on http://www.thesaurus.com Or--check this out--in Ebonics "haters" don't always be "hatin'" in the literal sense, yo. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
