Skyrad 0 #1 July 19, 2008 I'm not perfect and by no means skinny. I know its wrong but fat people irritate me, I can't help it. Especially if I see them eating crisps/chips. So am I alone or do they bug you too?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #2 July 19, 2008 Jamile, this thread makes you appear to be shallow. That's not the J that I know _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #3 July 19, 2008 Only an insecure, very small minded person would judge another based on their looks.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #4 July 19, 2008 Quote I'm not perfect and by no means skinny. I know its wrong but fat people irritate me, I can't help it. Especially if I see them eating crisps/chips. So am I alone or do they bug you too? No, you're not and yes: they do. Especially when watching the fat one at lunch/dinner table: Munching a giant meal as if there is no tomorrow, red face, sweating, gasping Disgusting .... 99 % of the fatties tell you: " .. it's genetical." 100 % of them are lying. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #5 July 19, 2008 I know, it sounds really bad. I know that its wrong but its a predjudice that I have. I work to get past it and I think maybe it comes from my parents who used to make overt sarcastic comments if I put on weight as a child. (In fact they still make comments now I had words with them about it recently) I do know people who are fat and we are friends I've got to know them and get beyond it. But the truth is if I see fat people eating junk it bugs me. Not something I'm proud of.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #6 July 19, 2008 QuoteOnly an insecure, very small minded person would judge another based on their looks. Thats simply not true, we all judge people on their looks every day. If you see a lgroup of young teenage males with their pants around their arses wearing red bandanas and hooded tops walking in a limping gait towards you are you telling me you don't think anything different than if they were a group of suit wearing men? I doubt it.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #7 July 19, 2008 QuoteOnly an insecure, very small minded person would judge another based on their looks. That's nonsense. You might not get the full picture but you'll certainly notice important information. Like the individual is a fat bastard for example. Still, not that I've any problem with people who are overweight. Very obese people, yes, because that's just taking the piss. Further to that, in America the poor people tend to be fatter than the less poor people. Essentially through only being able to afford crap food. And that's a damn shame. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #8 July 19, 2008 I'm actually predisposed to being overweight. My metabolism is messed up from being an athlete my whole life and incidently my body has broken down for the same reason so I can't live the same active lifestyle I'm used to. I'm not fat (anymore) mind you but I really have to make an effort and fortunately circumstances are allowing that right now. But now I wake up every morning, look at a bottle of ibuprofin, and decide if the pain is enough to poison my body that day. It's an amusing thought that if I decide one day it's not worth the amount of pain then I'll be considered disgusting and repulsive by many here. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #9 July 19, 2008 QuoteQuoteOnly an insecure, very small minded person would judge another based on their looks. Thats simply not true, we all judge people on their looks every day. If you see a lgroup of young teenage males with their pants around their arses wearing red bandanas and hooded tops walking in a limping gait towards you are you telling me you don't think anything different than if they were a group of suit wearing men? I doubt it. That's different and you know it. Perhaps I should have used criticise rather than judge but either way my point remains the same.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #10 July 19, 2008 QuoteQuoteOnly an insecure, very small minded person would judge another based on their looks. That's nonsense. You might not get the full picture but you'll certainly notice important information. Like the individual is a fat bastard for example. Still, not that I've any problem with people who are overweight. Very obese people, yes, because that's just taking the piss. Further to that, in America the poor people tend to be fatter than the less poor people. Essentially through only being able to afford crap food. And that's a damn shame. lol fair point. I'm not saying obese people have legitimate excuses. I'm just saying that if someone's first thought upon seeing another person is negative then perhaps that person might want to seek therapy.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #11 July 19, 2008 Quote ..... Further to that, in America the poor people tend to be fatter than the less poor people. Essentially through only being able to afford crap food. ..... Not only in the US, here too! But, it's characteristical that poor folks prefer to spend their dough for a huge pizza - instead of buying some fruit, vegetables or drinking healthy and cheaper mineral water instead of coke which simply is the sheer sugar dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #12 July 19, 2008 Quote ..... I'm just saying that if someone's first thought upon seeing another person is negative then perhaps that person might want to seek therapy. Which one?? The fat one or the "someone" ? You ever heard "the first impression you have about a person is the right one and hardly could be corrected?" That's how we work in society. Unknowingly. You do it, everybody does it. No need for a therapy at all. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #13 July 19, 2008 They bother me in the same way that smokers bother me; the same way that reckless drivers bother me; the same way that some skydivers who (despite our efforts to teach them otherwise) do bonehead stuff bother me. People who by action or omission of action destroy themselves and make excuses for their actions bother me. Obesity is epidemic. The sequelae of obesity are destroying our bodies. Diabetes (specifically type II)is rampant. Heart disease is rampant. People (and worse, their KIDS) are getting fatter every day. The overwhelming majority of people who are overweight do not have an excuse. A FEW of the people you know may have "predispositions" but there is always something they could do. Maybe they won't be strutting down the runway with supermodels, but they can always improve their condition, SOMEHOW. Even a single pound lost is a benefit. People look in the mirror and see they're fat, look around the family reunion and see that their whole family is fat, and decide that "it's genetic". This is a cultural issue, not a genetic one. I'm an ICU RN and see how obesity tears a body apart, and see how a baseline of obesity complicates recovery from even simple illnesses and procedures. It's a huge factor, and one that needs to be dealt with by everyone on a personal level. Elvisio "aha, there's my soapbox" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #14 July 19, 2008 Yeah you're right. Since everybody's doing it then it must be right. Personally I judge people based on their character and how they treat others. NOT their diet or exercise routine. I suppose I just choose to be different. The sad part is there are many dz.commers that deserve your admiration and respect based on their character but because they happen to be different than you.... www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #15 July 19, 2008 All of my family is larger. And yes, I mean 250-300+lb size larger, not a size 10 "larger". I have diabetes on both maternal and paternal lines. Both of my sisters have diabetes. It truly annoys me to hear them complain about monitoring their sugars or about how hard it is being as large as they are. Especially considering that I KNOW that they are NOT trying (and I mean ACTIVELY TRYING) to lose the weight. I distinctly remember one family vacation during which I went for my morning run... while my sister sat on the bed eating a WHOLE can of pringles while watching daytime drivel. I got back from my run, showered and listened to her vent about her size. I picked up the can of pringles and showed her the numbers: with six servings per container and eleven grams of fat per serving, she just ate 66 gms of fat, which with 9calories per gram, that's 594 calories in the time that I burned 390. She almost doubled the intake to my output. And she's complaining to me about being overweight. That frustrates me. I still love them dearly... and they in NO way repulse me but I am frustrated by some of the actions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #16 July 19, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Only an insecure, very small minded person would judge another based on their looks. That's nonsense. You might not get the full picture but you'll certainly notice important information. Like the individual is a fat bastard for example. Still, not that I've any problem with people who are overweight. Very obese people, yes, because that's just taking the piss. Further to that, in America the poor people tend to be fatter than the less poor people. Essentially through only being able to afford crap food. And that's a damn shame. lol fair point. I'm not saying obese people have legitimate excuses. I'm just saying that if someone's first thought upon seeing another person is negative then perhaps that person might want to seek therapy. No. Here's an example why you're wrong; it concerns those Gangsta rapper type dickheads who wore giant clocks around their necks. My first thought on seeing such people was very negative, because I wanted to smash their clocks over their heads. And that's quite reasonable I believe. Therapy my arse! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #17 July 19, 2008 Quote Quote ..... Further to that, in America the poor people tend to be fatter than the less poor people. Essentially through only being able to afford crap food. ..... Not only in the US, here too! But, it's characteristical that poor folks prefer to spend their dough for a huge pizza - instead of buying some fruit, vegetables or drinking healthy and cheaper mineral water instead of coke which simply is the sheer sugar It's common throughout the modern world Christel. Naturally education plays a part too. It's good to often read of nutritional advice in the tabloids these days, not that I read such papers though; heaven forbid! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #18 July 19, 2008 LOL if anyone on dz.com needs therapy it's you! Are brits always this violent? www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #19 July 19, 2008 Tell them to get in touch with me! I'll square them away when I open my Fat Loss Course. Basically they'll have to cover set distances over arduous terrain in Scotland with just an old WWII greatcoat, sketchmap and a survival tin, living off the land (taught prior to 'going on the run'), and getting their medication and perhaps an onion or carrot at their Agent RV's, whilst avoiding the hunter force. Following that they can then enjoy being put in stress positions listening to white noise whilst also being dragged off for interrogations which will incorporate a fat loss brainwash program!. . . I think i need to visit my therapist soon 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #20 July 19, 2008 Quote LOL if anyone on dz.com needs therapy it's you! Are brits always this violent? Blimey. I've literally just been sat with my children prior to their bed time watching the Simpsons. It was the episode where Homer and Bart are watching a spoof type documentary set in England which essentially consisted of the 'characters' being violent!!! Amazing! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #21 July 19, 2008 Quote Quote ..... Further to that, in America the poor people tend to be fatter than the less poor people. Essentially through only being able to afford crap food. ..... Not only in the US, here too! But, it's characteristical that poor folks prefer to spend their dough for a huge pizza - instead of buying some fruit, vegetables or drinking healthy and cheaper mineral water instead of coke which simply is the sheer sugar In the 80s I gained 20 pounds during a 3 week trip to Germany. Apparently my family at Heidelburg (civilians with US military) managed to identify every vice in local cuisine (morning pasteries with nutella or jelly, schitchel at the breweries for dinner) and make it the daily diet. --- Where it invokes disdain in me is when people let themselves go to the point where they cannot do physical activities they want to. Or even walk down the street. There are relatively fit big people out there, and there are very unfit scrawny people out there. But the unfit big people out there bug me. Once you give up trying, it's downhill in a hurry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #22 July 19, 2008 Quote ..... In the 80s I gained 20 pounds during a 3 week trip to Germany. Apparently my family at Heidelburg (civilians with US military) managed to identify every vice in local cuisine (morning pasteries with nutella or jelly, schitchel at the breweries for dinner) and make it the daily diet. Woah, not bad. Must have been the fresh air in our country ... My daily diet looks a bit different. I do not know how old you were in the 80s but, most ppl no matter of which age are having problems to resist Nutella . (Yuck! Nutella) What is "schitchel"??? Do you mean "Schnitzel"? Quote --- Once you give up trying, it's downhill in a hurry. Exactly. The inner self (that bastard) more and more will tell you to stay at home, take the elevator, take the car for few hundred meters and spend the rest of the day as a couch potato. All of this within few days. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #23 July 19, 2008 Quote Basically they'll have to cover set distances over arduous terrain in Scotland with just an old WWII greatcoat, sketchmap and a survival tin, living off the land (taught prior to 'going on the run'), and getting their medication and perhaps an onion or carrot at their Agent RV's, whilst avoiding the hunter force. Following that they can then enjoy being put in stress positions listening to white noise whilst also being dragged off for interrogations which will incorporate a fat loss brainwash program! Hey I was an intructor at a school like. that.. I always had a lot of fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #24 July 19, 2008 You can come and work at my school then! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #25 July 19, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Only an insecure, very small minded person would judge another based on their looks. That's nonsense. You might not get the full picture but you'll certainly notice important information. Like the individual is a fat bastard for example. Still, not that I've any problem with people who are overweight. Very obese people, yes, because that's just taking the piss. Further to that, in America the poor people tend to be fatter than the less poor people. Essentially through only being able to afford crap food. And that's a damn shame. lol fair point. I'm not saying obese people have legitimate excuses. I'm just saying that if someone's first thought upon seeing another person is negative then perhaps that person might want to seek therapy. Thats so AmericanWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites