jenfly00 0 #26 July 22, 2008 QuoteNo, your constant drone of "it's all HIS fault" is giving me the red-ass. Unfortunately, you seem to think that's "reality". Your argument is like saying the CEO of Boeing (the #1 no-bid contractor, btw) should know how many packages the company mail room mishandled that week. The CEO may have a broad overwiew of what's happening in the mailroom, but it's not something that he has a personal hand in, either. Just curious. Where do you believe the buck stops???----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #27 July 22, 2008 Quote Just curious. Where do you believe the buck stops??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA its all Clintons fault.. didnt you get the incessant droning of that memo being regurgitated??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #28 July 22, 2008 QuoteYou are looking to open up a bronze foundry when you get back to America arent you... Why not... you've got the platinum, gold and silver ones locked up. QuoteYour agument wants to claim Boeing gets non bid contracts... trouble is you continually misrepresent that on here which is exceedingly disnonest spin. MY posts on the subject are proven by contract stats - yours aren't. QuoteBoeing and its divisions were given a specification for a weapons system... aircraft....missle system etc. Then they built the prototypes... that met the specifications better than the competing companies for the contract. Their bid was competitive and they won the contract for the system... and the parts to keep it working for the life of the weapons system. That is the way government bids are supposed to work. Funny...that's exactly how KBR has gotten the overwhelming majority of their contracts - except for the no-bid that Clinton gave them in Bosnia and the initial contract in the Middle East, that is. QuoteIn the case of MANY of the current no bid contracts.. there WAS no competition to be awarded the contracts.....other than contributions and donations to your buddies in the administration. This puts those companies on the short list of Friends of the Administration. Not only did they not bid... they have supplied substandard components... systems and services.... all in the name of maximum profiteering for the friends of the administration....no oversite.. cost plus accounting..cost overruns.. and sheer theivery... Do some more research - there's a difference between 'no-bid' and 'sole competitor'. Maybe you'll actually find some PROOF of that connection you keep saying exists. QuoteOk we get it.. you are good with this kind of graft and war profiteering at the expense of the American people.....as long as it benefits you personally.. I guess its good for America.. at least in your mind. In most of our minds we know who to blame..... others... cant bring themselves to even see the wrongdoing... and make excuses for it.... Sad Mike... really sad. Really - where have I EVER said that I'm fine with graft and profiteering? Once again... put up or shut up, Jeanne - PROVE IT OR DELETE IT.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #29 July 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteNo, your constant drone of "it's all HIS fault" is giving me the red-ass. Unfortunately, you seem to think that's "reality". Your argument is like saying the CEO of Boeing (the #1 no-bid contractor, btw) should know how many packages the company mail room mishandled that week. The CEO may have a broad overwiew of what's happening in the mailroom, but it's not something that he has a personal hand in, either. Just curious. Where do you believe the buck stops??? Well, I certainly wouldn't blame the CEO of Boeing for problems in the mail room. I'd most likely start with the mail clerks or their supervisor, being rational and all. Of course, when you've got a personal grudge with the CEO, it's natural to blame him for any/every little thing - it's understandable. It's also treatable with the proper medications, I understand.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #30 July 22, 2008 More stupid childish responses ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #31 July 22, 2008 Quote More stupid childish responses ... You need some cheese for all that wine???? WAAAAAAAAA Just more PA's from a known source of same.Whats wrong...no dope threads to start today?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #32 July 22, 2008 And more stupid childish responses ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #34 July 23, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteNo, your constant drone of "it's all HIS fault" is giving me the red-ass. Unfortunately, you seem to think that's "reality". Your argument is like saying the CEO of Boeing (the #1 no-bid contractor, btw) should know how many packages the company mail room mishandled that week. The CEO may have a broad overwiew of what's happening in the mailroom, but it's not something that he has a personal hand in, either. Just curious. Where do you believe the buck stops??? Well, I certainly wouldn't blame the CEO of Boeing for problems in the mail room. I'd most likely start with the mail clerks or their supervisor, being rational and all. Of course, when you've got a personal grudge with the CEO, it's natural to blame him for any/every little thing - it's understandable. It's also treatable with the proper medications, I understand. So, when widescale corruption is revealed, you'd find some flunky in the mailroom to blame ...got it.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #35 July 23, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNo, your constant drone of "it's all HIS fault" is giving me the red-ass. Unfortunately, you seem to think that's "reality". Your argument is like saying the CEO of Boeing (the #1 no-bid contractor, btw) should know how many packages the company mail room mishandled that week. The CEO may have a broad overwiew of what's happening in the mailroom, but it's not something that he has a personal hand in, either. Just curious. Where do you believe the buck stops??? Well, I certainly wouldn't blame the CEO of Boeing for problems in the mail room. I'd most likely start with the mail clerks or their supervisor, being rational and all. Of course, when you've got a personal grudge with the CEO, it's natural to blame him for any/every little thing - it's understandable. It's also treatable with the proper medications, I understand. So, when widescale corruption is revealed, you'd find some flunky in the mailroom to blame ...got it. Nice try for a misdirect - re-read my post and try again, without the drama. For a start, maybe you could try showing where the CEO had any direct involvement with the operation of the mailroom before you start calling for his head on a stake. After that, maybe you could actually gain an understanding of how the mail room operates and who oversees the mail clerks and is responsible for how they conduct their duties. Bush is no more "responsible" for the contract fiascos in Iraq than Clinton was for the KBR/Dyncorp fiascos in Bosnia and Kosovo - neither had any direct involvement in the procurement or operation of the contracts - those actions and responsibilities lie further down the chain. Of course, by admittting to that truth, you can't scream about how Bush and/or the republicans and/or "the fringe right" are to blame for all the ills of the world, so I really don't expect any sort of thought to be expended on it nor any sort of honest answer.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #36 July 23, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteNo, your constant drone of "it's all HIS fault" is giving me the red-ass. Unfortunately, you seem to think that's "reality". Your argument is like saying the CEO of Boeing (the #1 no-bid contractor, btw) should know how many packages the company mail room mishandled that week. The CEO may have a broad overwiew of what's happening in the mailroom, but it's not something that he has a personal hand in, either. Just curious. Where do you believe the buck stops??? Well, I certainly wouldn't blame the CEO of Boeing for problems in the mail room. I'd most likely start with the mail clerks or their supervisor, being rational and all. Of course, when you've got a personal grudge with the CEO, it's natural to blame him for any/every little thing - it's understandable. It's also treatable with the proper medications, I understand. So, when widescale corruption is revealed, you'd find some flunky in the mailroom to blame ...got it. Nice try for a misdirect - re-read my post and try again, without the drama. For a start, maybe you could try showing where the CEO had any direct involvement with the operation of the mailroom before you start calling for his head on a stake. After that, maybe you could actually gain an understanding of how the mail room operates and who oversees the mail clerks and is responsible for how they conduct their duties. Bush is no more "responsible" for the contract fiascos in Iraq than Clinton was for the KBR/Dyncorp fiascos in Bosnia and Kosovo - neither had any direct involvement in the procurement or operation of the contracts - those actions and responsibilities lie further down the chain. Of course, by admittting to that truth, you can't scream about how Bush and/or the republicans and/or "the fringe right" are to blame for all the ills of the world, so I really don't expect any sort of thought to be expended on it nor any sort of honest answer. you need to see widespread corruption as a little problem in the mailroom ...OK, got it, we understand your need to keep your ideology intact. How bout that Nazi genocide thing? A little pest control problem in the basement?----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #37 July 23, 2008 Quote you need to see widespread corruption as a little problem in the mailroom ...OK, got it, we understand your need to keep your ideology intact. How bout that Nazi genocide thing? A little pest control problem in the basement? Try again - if you don't want to use my mailroom analogy, then make your own - quit trying to redefine the argument to get your 'win'. You earn a "Godwin Fail", btw. Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
