Iran Test-Fires 9 Missiles to Show 'Might'

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The only people content with Iraq's behavior in 2002 were those who were opposed to all war, and those who had financial interests in the status quo.

Uh lets not forget those who did not want their kids sent off to a war that seemed useless... when we already had a perfectly good war against people who had actually attacked us.

Some of us believe in finishing a job before going off on another and leaving the other job half done.

George never has been very good at following thru on ANYTHING he seems to have gotten invovled in...

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Hussein betrayed his country for personal gain, and they paid dearly for it.

Gee does this sound like anyone else we might have seen in action now for a few years???

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Basically it boils down to fundamentalism and how fanatical our fundamentalists are as opposed to their fundamentalists.

There's a thought. Let's unleash the Southern Baptists on them. Funny though, even as fundamentalist as the Southern Baptists can be, you never hear them espousing killing another culture because that culture doesn't believe what the Southern Baptists believe. The Southern Baptists just want to convert them.

As hard as this is for me to say, maybe we're starting to get too civilized for our own good. The world really needs a clear winner right now. A very clear winner. Let's hope it's us.

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The world really needs a clear winner right now. A very clear winner. Let's hope it's us.

Here you go again with this "clear world winner" bullshit.

And it is exactly that. Bullshit.

Rather than acting like we can muscle our way out of it (which we can't), perhaps we should demonstrate a little humility, grasp for an ounce of respect, and focus our resources on (our own) local affairs.

.jim

"Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC

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>Hmmm, do you recall how many metric tons of yellow cake were just
>delivered to Canada from Iraq?

About 500 as I recall. Do you recall what it was doing in Iraq?

Yes, I do. Do you?

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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>Hussein betrayed his country for personal gain, and they paid dearly for it.

There is no doubt about that. But to go back to your example, that's like throwing a paroled criminal back in prison because he went to a casino, gambled and lost a lot of money.

Add "gambled with money he stole from his tribe" to the sentence.

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Hussein betrayed his country for personal gain, and they paid dearly for it.

Gee does this sound like anyone else we might have seen in action now for a few years???

We're paying, but not nearly the price his subjects were, and we even got to vote on it a few times. Even with a Democrat majority, we're still there, so how much of the blame must the American people accept? More than none.

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And it is exactly that. Bullshit.

Suffice it to say, you and I are very different people.

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So how does your historical whitewash explain the Clinton directed bombings in 1998?

There's nothing whitewashed about it. You're the one that keeps making claims about history based in imagination rather than fact.

Still, the US' misguided foreign policy easily predates Bush (either one).

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Hussein's compliance was on par with a convicted murdered who ditched half his meetings with his parole officer. If he was so cooperative, why did nearly all Congressional leaders on both sides of the aisle point to his non compliance as a threat?

They also pointed to (and based, in part, their authorization for the use of force) to the "fact" that Hussein had WMD.

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The only people content with Iraq's behavior in 2002 were those who were opposed to all war, and those who had financial interests in the status quo.

Since I fall in neither of those categories, and I was content with Iraq's behavior in 2002, your theory is bunk.

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Well, since it actually did happen, it's much more useful to talk about wrt legality.

Since what happened? The US attacking a sovereign without evidence to support any danger posed by that country?

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With Iran we have only a lot of hot air coming from a lot of national leaders.

That's not really any different from the US, is it?

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And if you don't think the evidence of Syria's actions was compelling, you'll need to define 'evidence' for me before I can answer your first question.

You'll have to explain how a reactor is evidence of a weapons program and not a nuclear energy program. Few technologies cannot be used for both benevolent and destructive purposes.

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The generic answer, however - every nation has the right to self defense, and that includes preemptive attacks, particularly against those that do not acknowledge your right to exist.

Even when there's no danger. Sounds like anarchy with a healthy dose of paranoia.

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If Iran wants to assure the world it's only pursuing an energy program, it can allow the nuclear inspections.

News flash: They do.

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If it wants to pursue a weapons program, it can withdrawl from the NPT and face the consequences.

Yes, but we've seen no evidence of them wanting to pursue a nuclear weapons program.

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If it wants to try to do it secretly, well anything can happen. But it shouldn't be shocked if Israel overreacts to protect themselves.

Nor should they be surprised when the UN turns a blind eye to Israel's illegal actions, aka the status quo.

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http://www.mojahedin.org/pagesen/index.aspx
http://www.ncr-iran.org/

Nice place.

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Funny though, even as fundamentalist as the Southern Baptists can be, you never hear them espousing killing another culture because that culture doesn't believe what the Southern Baptists believe.

Christianity has its share of extreme fundamentalists. Eric Rudolph comes to mind as well as other abortion clinic bombers. Rudolph had a lot of community support.

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The world really needs a clear winner right now. A very clear winner. Let's hope it's us.

That statement still makes no sense.

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We're paying, but not nearly the price his subjects were, and we even got to vote on it a few times. Even with a Democrat majority, we're still there, so how much of the blame must the American people accept? More than none.

Holy Fuck..... even those who voted for the fucknugget here on this site wont even admit to voting for him....I sure as fuck did not vote him... I refuse to take ANY of the blame for this morons war that has killed so many of my fellow Americans.

I was against sending our people over to Iraq... back before it was fashionable to do so.. and I still think is was a raid on the American Treasury by a group of arrogant incompetent anti-american NEO CON Chickenhawks.

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a group of arrogant incompetent anti-american NEO CON Chickenhawks.

As opposed to the plain old neo-lib chickens?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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As opposed to the plain old neo-lib chickens?

Ah yes..there you are seeing life again thru the Red Koolaid glass you are sucking on that makes everything to YOUR left appear as liberal....tsk tsk tsk...

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As opposed to the plain old neo-lib chickens?

Ah yes..there you are seeing life again thru the Red Koolaid glass you are sucking on that makes everything to YOUR left appear as liberal....tsk tsk tsk...

Very astute observation - I've posted political graph results before that show me to be almost exactly in the middle, so yes, to the 'left' of me WOULD be liberal - did you have a point?

I hadn't seen you post for a while... banned again, or just caught up in the ragefests over at dkos and du?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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I hadn't seen you post for a while... banned again, or just caught up in the ragefests over at dkos and du?

I would gladly send you a history of my browsing.. and you will not find either one of those.... unlike you Bubba.


AS far as posting.. I frequently go outside to be with the other three dimensional people.

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Very astute observation - I've posted political graph results before that show me to be almost exactly in the middle, so yes, to the 'left' of me WOULD be liberal - did you have a point?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Um yeah right....


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA


And who was runing the quiz..........the C of CC website?????

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I hadn't seen you post for a while... banned again, or just caught up in the ragefests over at dkos and du?

I would gladly send you a history of my browsing.. and you will not find either one of those.... unlike you Bubba.

I like keeping track of the lunatic fringe... and it somehow tends to match up nicely with a few poster's points - sort of like you accuse everyone right of you of only listening to limbaugh.

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AS far as posting.. I frequently go outside to be with the other three dimensional people.

Imagine that...so do I - but the people I see aren't blue state hystericals.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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I like keeping track of the lunatic fringe... and it somehow tends to match up nicely with a few poster's points - sort of like you accuse everyone right of you of only listening to limbaugh.

So what Fringe Right sites do you watch daily????




It sure seems an awful lot of Lush Rimjobs daily shows sure do manage to end up here as threads...but I guess you already knew that.

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>Yes, I do.

Good! Then you know that your comment had nothing at all to do with unauthorized WMD development.

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I've posted political graph results before that show me to be almost exactly in the middle, so yes, to the 'left' of me WOULD be liberal - did you have a point?

If your posts are consistent with your ideology, all those test results show is the test is way out of calibration. You're pretty far right of center, to put it mildly.

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It's official everyone partaking in this thread just needs to get laid. There...I said it.

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It's official everyone partaking in this thread just needs to get laid. There...I said it.

DUDE... you can get banned for suggesting that... I did once.. just for telling someone they were in serious need of getting laid

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>Yes, I do.

Good! Then you know that your comment had nothing at all to do with unauthorized WMD development.

rrrriiiiiiggggghhhhhhhhht

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Hmmm, do you recall how many metric tons of yellow cake were just delivered to Canada from Iraq?

Do you realize that (yellow cake != WMD)?

Hm, where did I say that?


Oh, you have been PMing billvon?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln