georgerussia 0 #51 July 7, 2008 QuoteDiesel fuel jumped 14 cents here today. I want to kick someone in the nuts. Spent about a day in SF traffic jams. We need gas to go at least twice more, so it would be possible to drive again in Bay Area* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #52 July 7, 2008 Hello, If I remember correctly, the economy was doing really good back in late 2006 before the Dems gained control of Congress. Gas was cheap, the real estate market was doing well, and our country was prospering. Our President doesn't make laws - Congress does. If you're going to blame anyone, blame your Democratic congress...... Quotethe address you'll need is 1900 Pennsylvania Ave. kick em once for me too.(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #53 July 7, 2008 QuoteHello, If I remember correctly, the economy was doing really good back in late 2006 before the Dems gained control of Congress. Gas was cheap, the real estate market was doing well, and our country was prospering. Ha ha, very funny. And in 2006 the deficit was ?????... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #54 July 7, 2008 Exactly what part of my post do you find funny - the truthful part or the truthful part? QuoteAnd in 2006 the deficit was ?????(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #55 July 7, 2008 QuoteExactly what part of my post do you find funny - the truthful part or the truthful part? QuoteAnd in 2006 the deficit was ????? Your naive assumption that things were in great shape in 2006. The seeds of the housing meltdown were in place, the apparently "good" economy was built on a foundation of unsupportable debt, and the $US had been in decline for several years already. It's easy to look wealthy by going deep in debt.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #56 July 7, 2008 >the economy was doing really good back in late 2006 before the >Dems gained control of Congress. In two years, we'll be hearing people say "yeah, Iraq was going just great and the economy was booming back in 2008 before we had a democrat in office." For some people, it's all about blaming someone else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #57 July 7, 2008 I bet your campfire stories are "to die for", Bill. Hmmm, that wild imagination of yours..... But I do wish I could get back the equity in my home and the tens of thousands of dollars lost in my 401k since a democratic congress took over. I'm sure Obama will save us, though. QuoteIn two years, we'll be hearing people say "yeah, Iraq was going just great and the economy was booming back in 2008 before we had a democrat in office.(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #58 July 7, 2008 QuoteI bet your campfire stories are "to die for", Bill. Hmmm, that wild imagination of yours..... But I do wish I could get back the equity in my home and the tens of thousands of dollars lost in my 401k since a democratic congress took over. I'm sure Obama will save us, though. QuoteIn two years, we'll be hearing people say "yeah, Iraq was going just great and the economy was booming back in 2008 before we had a democrat in office. Why blame anyone but yourself for your own poor investments? Neither Congress nor Bush asked you to invest in an obviously overheated housing bubble and a stock market fuelled by debt. You can't build a sound economy on a foundation of unsupportable debt. That was Bush's plan, and it has failed miserably, as some of us predicted. "My plan reduces the national debt, and fast. So fast, in fact, that economists worry that we're going to run out of debt to retire." G. W. Bush, radio address, Feb. 24, 2001 Educate yourself on why your house value has declined, and who is to blame. It certainly is NOT the Congress elected in 2006. More And don't say it was not forseen! "Much of the run up of the stock market is based on debt. In fact our apparent great economy is based on a shaky foundation of debt, which accounts for the $US being in the basement (record low against the Euro, 25 year low against the UK pound)" Me, DZ.COM, July 11, 2007... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #59 July 7, 2008 I'm not one to surf the internet all day long in hopes of finding articles to back my posts, so this article will have to do.(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #60 July 7, 2008 QuoteI'm not one to surf the internet all day long in hopes of finding articles to back my posts, so this article will have to do. Sorry, but it's totally irrelevant to the point you lamely attempted to make. It says absolutely nothing about house values or the worth of your pension plan. If you want to make a point, be prepared to back it up with some facts and not just your own prejudices.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #61 July 7, 2008 Quote Gas was cheap, http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/wrgp/mogas_home_page.html I guess cheap to me means less than $2 a gallon - and definitely less than $3 a gallon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #62 July 7, 2008 I'm not citing webpages to justify why my 401k and house value took a dump. Those items are simply a side-effect of a shitty Congress who has done nothing for us in the last 2.5 years. It's all related. I'm not "making any points". I'm just stating a big observation that our country took a turn for the worse in late 2006. But feel free to post some more links to your own prophetic, omniscient posts. QuoteSorry, but it's totally irrelevant to the point you lamely attempted to make. It says absolutely nothing about house values or the worth of your pension plan.(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #63 July 7, 2008 Quote For some people, it's all about blaming someone else. Hence the astronomical number of "it's all Bush's fault" posts here.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #64 July 7, 2008 QuoteQuote For some people, it's all about blaming someone else. Hence the astronomical number of "it's all Bush's fault" posts here. Would you say that it's correct to say that it's at least partially Bush's fault that things are where they are today? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #65 July 7, 2008 QuoteI'm not citing webpages to justify why my 401k and house value took a dump. Translation - you can't justify your claim Quote Those items are simply a side-effect of a shitty Congress who has done nothing for us in the last 2.5 years. It's all related. I'm not "making any points". I'm just stating a big observation that our country took a turn for the worse in late 2006. But feel free to post some more links to your own prophetic, omniscient posts. QuoteSorry, but it's totally irrelevant to the point you lamely attempted to make. It says absolutely nothing about house values or the worth of your pension plan. Neither Congress nor the White House forced you to make bad investment decisions. Do you really want the nanny-state government to protect you from your self?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #66 July 7, 2008 QuoteHence the astronomical number of "it's all Bush's fault" posts here. And Mike is awarded with yet another Oak Leaf Cluster to the Defender of all that is Right and Good for The rePUBICan Party Medal. Well Done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #67 July 7, 2008 I don't NEED to justify my claim. It's simply my OPINION that your democratic congress is lame. It's also my opinion that Amazon has officially typed the word "rePUBICan" way too many times. I guess capitalizing the word "PUBIC" in the middle of another word just never gets old! QuoteTranslation - you can't justify your claim (c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #68 July 7, 2008 Quote It's also my opinion that Amazon has officially typed the word "rePUBICan" way too many times. I guess capitalizing the word "PUBIC" in the middle of another word just never gets old! Not when the Party of Morality.. believes anything to do with PUBIC is something that needs to be controlled from the pulpits across America. Remember when the Republican Party actually stood for smaller government... a control on spending... and moderates were welcome in the GOP??? I do.. and that party is gone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #69 July 7, 2008 > I bet your campfire stories are "to die for", Bill. Hmmm, that wild >imagination of yours..... Yep. I am sure a lot of people remember my nutty predictions that we'd be running out of oil soon, and that Iraq would not be the cakewalk everyone was predicting it would be. >But I do wish I could get back the equity in my home and the tens of >thousands of dollars lost in my 401k since a democratic congress took >over. And I wish I could get back all the money in stock equity I lost after Bush entered office. I lost over half my investment. Strangely enough, though, I blame the loss on my investing strategy and not George Bush _or_ the republican majority of the time. I know, hard to believe that I would take responsibility for my decisions, but I'm nutty like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #70 July 7, 2008 "Yep. I am sure a lot of people remember my nutty predictions that we'd be running out of oil soon, and that Iraq would not be the cakewalk everyone was predicting it would be." Running out of Oil...? I don't think so. Demand may be exceeding supply but we are not running out of oil.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #71 July 7, 2008 Forget McCain and Obama, let's all write in BillVon/Kallend in November..... (c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #72 July 7, 2008 Quote Forget McCain and Obama, let's all write in BillVon/Kallend in November..... Good call. They do know everything. Just ask them, they will tell you so! The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #73 July 7, 2008 >Demand may be exceeding supply but we are not running out of oil. Then no worries. I'm sure prices will come down real soon now, and will remember your more rational explanation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #74 July 7, 2008 Quote>Demand may be exceeding supply but we are not running out of oil. Then no worries. I'm sure prices will come down real soon now, and will remember your more rational explanation. Ugh, you think so? I don't. I was just calling BS on your running out of oil line. Demand (and prices) will continue to rise as countries like India and China continue to use more oil.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #75 July 7, 2008 >Demand (and prices) will continue to rise as countries like India and China >continue to use more oil. And yet when that has happened in the past (demand increased) prices did not generally spike. This recent increase is due to the fact that we are running out of cheap oil. The Saudis are increasing their output by a bit, but it is looking more and more like they're close to their maximum (despite their rosy marketing claims.) And the Russians have just admitted their production will peak in a few years. We will be able to maintain our current level of production for a few more years as new wells are drilled and new methods, made possible by $200 a barrel oil, are utilized. Eventually, though, production will begin to decline - and at that point nothing we can do will reverse the trend. You may not call that "running out of oil" but to most people, that's what's happening. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
