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Amazing... with your psychic powers, you can somehow tell who *I* voted for, so tell me... what color am I thinking of now?

And NOW he can CAUSE speculation to happen? TRULY AMAZING!!! With him being such a genius and all, since can cause/control all this - doesn't it make you feel silly for all those "idiot" "moron" "Cheny's puppet" posts?

K Rove puppets.;)
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I feel it, when I sorrow most;
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Than never to have loved at all.

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Yours are not so vague.. go figure:S:S:S



Now THAT is friggin hilarious - care to compare ban counts for SC? Mine is at zero, what is yours?

Do you *REALLY* want me to look up the number of times you've called other posters "rePUBEicans" "chickenhawks" "rednecks" etc etc etc?

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And I expect nothing else from those who are wearing the Defender of the Fringe Right Medal.[:/]



And yet ANOTHER example...
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Think about it Mike....MR POT...but I am glad you have noticed that I call em as I see em.. and when the shoe fits so well far too many of you are wearing them:S


And as I told someone else... you get what you give.

Just returning the favors as provided here.

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Think about it Mike....MR POT...but I am glad you have noticed that I call em as I see em.. and when the shoe fits so well far too many of you are wearing them:S



There's quite a number of posters on here that are wearing TWO left shoes... because they hate anything associated with the right SO much.

No *wonder* y'all aren't as happy as conservatives...your feet hurt all the time!

Seems a bit rabid to me...but, being one of those 'ignorant rednecks in flyover country' (now *where* have I heard *that* before?) I'm sure I just don't understand the nuance....
Mike
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See there you go again


Thinking you are a conservative and EVERYONE else is a lefty...

That is some major self denial bubba


I guess when you are THAT far to the FRINGE RIGHT.. everything else does APPEAR to be a leftie.. including true conservatives that bemoan the level to which this country has sunk in support of your NEO CON Utopia.. that aint lookin or smellin too sweet in the last few yearsw.

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Thinking you are a conservative and EVERYONE else is a lefty...

That is some major self denial bubba



As is you thinking you're anything BUT a hard-line liberal. Nobody here is buying that bullshit except you.

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I guess when I am THAT far to the FRINGE LEFT.. everything else does APPEAR to be a fringe rightie..



Fixed that for you.
Mike
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Tsk Tsk Tsk.... Just because you believe that....does not make it true.. just like your really bad case of BKAS...since all that love and light from the Fringe Right you like to heap on those who you see( thru your Bush colored glasses) that in an accusatory tone you assign ANYONE who disagrees with your FRINGE RIGHT agenda of having BDS... Well Bubba.. you got a real bad case of BKAS

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Just because you believe that....does not make it true



As you say.

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BKAS



Well, c'mon Jeanne... show me some of that HRC "speaking truth to power", you moderate conservative, you (who just *happens* to go along with everything the Dems say and do) .... ADMIT what the acronym stands for.
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Well it aint Bush Worship Syndrome.. .Although there are those here that certainly seem to have that affliction based on posting history.



And moderates on either side of the aisle don't use "chickenhawk", "repubeican", or any of your OTHER favorite epithets... so guess who that DOES leave you aligned with?

The CKAS matches, too.
Mike
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Notice in one thread today I used the term REPUBLICAN to describe President Eisenhower and his warning about the Military-Industrial Complex that has become YOUR rePUBICan-MORALISTIC-NEO-CON-Chickenhawk party to which you cleave.

The GOP that Eisenhower and Goldwater belonged to is dead and buried and it needs to be pointed out as often as possible to deliniate the current travesty of morality that it has become.
BUT that is the PARTY that you so vehemently defend on a daily basis.. while spounting your never ending mantra of how bad they all are.. yet you continue to support the abuses that have aqd are continueing to occur.

What do you call that kind of support?????

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Notice in one thread today I used the term REPUBLICAN to describe President Eisenhower and his warning about the Military-Industrial Complex that has become YOUR rePUBICan-MORALISTIC-NEO-CON-Chickenhawk party to which you cleave.



But you forgot to mention that Clinton got a blow job. The number of people that have died due to the Iraq War pales in comparison the number of sperm that died on the blue dress. Didn't you hear?
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Dont worry.... One of the NEO CONS will be along to hit us with a CDIF... They are not so good with current affairs since their affairs seem to lean to more wide stance issues.... they are better at ancient history for something that MOST of the world finds quite fun, trouble is since most of them dont get em.. they get all moralistic ...but its been shown that the Party of MOrality... talks a good game... but cant walk the walk.

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But but but... he is a good "christian" he would never do something like that to his fellow countrymen. When the fringe right wants to believe something about someone.. there is no reality on Earth that would make them listen to anything that does not fit in with their view of reality...

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:D:DB|B| good fucking point. Amazon thanks for bringing it up. ;)

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that lives at 1600 Pennsylvania that you wish to kick in the nuts.
No excuses.

um let's see I was only off by one digit (9 in place of a 6) referring to an address I have only visited twice in my life to the best of my recollection. after having a had a near fatal stroke (in fact should have been fatal, according to the shocked attending MDs & surgeons) that left me unable to retrieve a great deal of lost memory. including; an entire block of years, mid 90's thru 2000, from which I can recall almost nothing. including, without reference to documents I may have from that time, my own address from that period. I find it immensely ironic, that I'm attacked regarding this, by the one person here that is a medical doctor, as if it were only an excuse & not a legit, reason for memory loss/difficulty :D:D:D:D bad day at the office? did you deliver a baby today with an attitude problem that tugged on your head, with giant medical salad tongs & slapped you back, on your ass in an act of rebelion & defiance? it wasn't me dr. rim shot. & re: 'he had his leg amputated......' so can he still wiggle his toes that used to be 'stored' on the amputated limb? as you openly mock the fact that I have difficultly recalling memory that used to be stored in the brain region 'cut-off' & damaged from my stroke. or would you instead rather concede, we are talking apples & oranges here. & your comment as such was uncalled for? DR.
It's pretty pathetic when you have to TELL people you're fucking cool Skymama «narrative»This thread will lock in 3..2.. What a load of narrow-minded Xenophobic Bullshit!-squeak

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AND in REPLY to kbordson[/B]

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that lives at 1600 Pennsylvania that you wish to kick in the nuts.
No excuses.

um let's see I was only off by one digit (9 in place of a 6) referring to an address I have only visited twice in my life to the best of my recollection. after having a had a near fatal stroke (in fact should have been fatal, according to the shocked attending MDs & surgeons) that left me unable to retrieve a great deal of lost memory. including; an entire block of years, mid 90's thru 2000, from which I can recall almost nothing. including, without reference to documents I may have from that time, my own address from that period. I find it immensely ironic, that I'm attacked regarding this, by the one person here that is a medical doctor, as if it were an excuse & not a legit, reason for memory difficulty:D:D:D:D bad day at the office? did you deliver a baby today with an attitude problem that tugged on your head, with giant medical salad tongs & slapped you back, on your ass in act of rebelion & defiance? it wasn't me dr. rim shot. & re: 'he had his leg amputated......' so can he still wiggle his toes that used to be 'stored' on the amputated limb? as you openly mock the fact that I have difficultly recalling memory that used to be stored in the brain region 'cut-off' & damaged from my stroke. or would you instead rather concede, we are talking apples & oranges here. & your comment as such was uncalled for? DR.



I concede nothing and apologize for nothing. I found your comments to him "uncalled for" and your comments to me insulting. You can hide behind any excuses you want, but my opinion of you isn't changed by this paragraph.

And to further comment: YOU were the one that asked Max what his excuse was. And now you are trying to pin that onto me. I was not trying to justify or qualify your "excuse." I was simply stating that he does not hide behind them. Your confusingly insulting comments about him wiggling his toes in the above comment?! I don't know - should I include that callous comment in your memory loss "reason." Likewise, referring, even jokingly, to birth trauma to infants is rather disgusting.

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um let's see I was only off by one digit (9 in place of a 6) referring to an address I have only visited twice in my life to the best of my recollection.

Actually by my count here on earth you were off by 300. 1900 - 1600=300:P;)
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See there you go again
Thinking you are a conservative and EVERYONE else is a lefty...

WTF? 'EVERYONE' is a really far cry from what the gentleman ACTUALLY said:
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'quite a number of posters on here that are wearing TWO left shoes...'

I see the real problem here is someone's twisting more words than an F5 tornado at a Scrabble® convention. I've seen many of his posts & he's rather open minded for someone who is supposedly:
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THAT far to the FRINGE RIGHT..


I happen to be a rather liberal Democrat myself, ( & he & I get along just fine in our chats or responses) but of course he & I are both intelligent & independently open-minded enough to still know that, that being labeled conservative or liberal, doesn't mean agreeing with or disagreeing with EVERY SINGLE ITEM or ISSUE, simply because it has a 'Liberal' or 'Conservative' label accordingly.
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It's pretty pathetic when you have to TELL people you're fucking cool Skymama «narrative»This thread will lock in 3..2.. What a load of narrow-minded Xenophobic Bullshit!-squeak

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Likewise, referring, even jokingly, to birth trauma to infants is rather disgusting.

& where did you see me mention ANYTHING about trauma to infants, besides in your head? or were you merely being self critical, in feeling thatany infant you deliver is automatically traumatized & assumed we would all think the same? I simply made reference to ways that the delivery process is sped-up or 'helped' along & an old fashioned method of getting the newly born infant to begin breathing on their own, by getting them cry. get glasses Alice, get glasses. nowhere did I say anything about trauma to infants. & I didn't expect you to apologize. you never can expect a side-blinder-wearing, hypocrit to do so.
It's pretty pathetic when you have to TELL people you're fucking cool Skymama «narrative»This thread will lock in 3..2.. What a load of narrow-minded Xenophobic Bullshit!-squeak

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um let's see I was only off by one digit (9 in place of a 6) referring to an address I have only visited twice in my life to the best of my recollection.

Actually by my count here on earth you were off by 300. 1900 - 1600=300:P;)
:D yes mike, but only one, singular digit of the four involved was incorrect:P:P but I like the way you think! ;);) keep me on my toes.
It's pretty pathetic when you have to TELL people you're fucking cool Skymama «narrative»This thread will lock in 3..2.. What a load of narrow-minded Xenophobic Bullshit!-squeak

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Blah, blah, blah... how many people in the UK live more than 15 miles from work?

Y'all also have much more efficient vehicles in regard to mileage.



Yeah I mean who would be stupid enough not to drive a giant fucking pickup just to save gas if you can just go an invade other countries?

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Likewise, referring, even jokingly, to birth trauma to infants is rather disgusting.

& where did you see me mention ANYTHING about trauma to infants, besides in your head? or were you merely being self critical, in feeling thatany infant you deliver is automatically traumatized & assumed we would all think the same? I simply made reference to ways that the delivery process is sped-up or 'helped' along & an old fashioned method of getting the newly born infant to begin breathing on their own, by getting them cry. get glasses Alice, get glasses. nowhere did I say anything about trauma to infants. & I didn't expect you to apologize. you never can expect a side-blinder-wearing, hypocrit to do so.



Do you always address debates by using insult and distraction?

This is my understanding of the conversation above (and I'll use your quotes to make it easier for you)

Spence: Diesel fuel jumped 14 cents here today. I want to kick someone in the nuts.

Your comment back: I believe the address you'll need is 1900 Pennsylvania Ave. kick em once for me too.

[To me, that comes across as "This sucks in my life - it's this persons fault. I want to hurt him"]

Max's comment to you: Yeah, because the folks at the intersection of the IMF, the World Bank and George Washington University are the real evil speculators.

Your reply back to him: I had a stroke several years ago that left me with a significant memory loss. what's your excuse? [Crazy]

[My inference: "My memory sucks. It's the strokes fault." Totally ignoring that it's not a memory problem in the above post; it's a research issue. You wanted to put something cute and sassy down on the internet and didn't bother to research the info that you were typing. Not a memory issue at all... no one assumed that you had lived there or that you should have it in your long term memory. But to research and correctly post the address of the person whose balls you would like to kick... that is kind of expected if you want to discuss that sort of thing. And yes... you did use the cute little icon, so we should all lighten up cuz you weren't really attacking Max - and I shouldn't have defended someone whom I highly respected by countering your snide comments directed to him.... AND you did then start that NOBLE thread in the bonfire thanking all who had served and sacrificed, so that makes up for your callous remarks to him.]

Long discussion between Amazon and Mike about:

1. The role of the President [when we all should know that the Presidents job is not to hold power, but to draw attention away from the real source of it. (and although President Bush might be good at that Zaphod Beeblebrox really is the best)]

2. Price fixing the price of gasoline [My thoughts on that part of the debate: By setting prices below market levels, the government of the 70's made it unprofitable for oil companies to respond to high prices as they normally would -- by increasing production. This led to inadequate supplies and fuel shortages. Then, rather than lifting the price controls, government tried to fix the problem by imposing allocation controls. Soon, we had centrally planned programs determining how much of various fuel types to produce, how much to send each state and how much various categories of purchasers were allowed to buy. And that all to similar to conditions in Atlas Shrugged where Reardon Metal is sale and distribution is controlled by the government.... and it kills the industry. Government control is NOT the answer to this problem. Personal responsibility and working within the system of capitalism. Not changing it to a system of communism. If you can't afford the gasoline - try to adjust your life to better fit within your mean. Carpool, bike, walk. Control your driving habits. Do something REAL. Whining about how it's Bush's fault isn't going to change your life.]

You jump back in to this debate with a comment directly meant for me: bad day at the office? did you deliver a baby today with an attitude problem

I comment that it's tacky to discuss birth trauma. I take my responsibility to my patients and their children VERY seriously and to see someone even mockingly slander my ability does annoy me. And to claim that the reason that I defended Max was because I had a bad day at the office. Again... it seems that you're crying "It's not my fault that I posted an inflammatory and insulting comment.... it MUST be yours."


And your post above (I'll even re-paste it here):I didn't expect you to apologize. you never can expect a side-blinder-wearing, hypocrit[sic] to do so

[My inference: I can't logically discuss this topic with you, so I will just personally attack you by saying you wear blinders and that you're a hypocrite.]

What's your take on this discussion? I'm really curious.

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Government control is NOT the answer to this problem. Personal responsibility and working within the system of capitalism. Not changing it to a system of communism. If you can't afford the gasoline - try to adjust your life to better fit within your mean. Carpool, bike, walk. Control your driving habits. Do something REAL. Whining about how it's Bush's fault isn't going to change your life.]



Brah VO girlfriend! We need to hear more from you!

And, even though it is the 6th, I'm still having a good time and SINCERELY wish you all a happy 4th! THanks to the men who signed the document knowing that they had a 50-50 chance of being hanged in the next few months! Our lives are still sooooo much better than most of the world. You'll hear no complaints from me.

Driving less, cutting back, eating out less, jumping a little less, trying to drink less beer, working harder, loving life and still living the dream.
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[To me, that comes across as "This sucks in my life - it's this persons fault. I want to hurt him"]

oh please. it is SO obvious that I was just kidding. making a humorous reference, to the fact I am not 100% thrilled with the big guy & everything he's done or failed to do in office. or would you seriously have us believe that when you read & responded to this, you actually were so far detatched from reality at the moment, you honestly believe I was telling him to do it? BULL, 1st of all I've seen so many of your posts & you are far to intelligent a waman for this to be the case. I've also noted from your posts that normally you, yourself have a great sense of humor. [/reply ] 2ndly, as far as blah blah blah, me at least getting the address right, if I'm ...blah blah how about him getting the facts right in respect to the address in his 'come-back' comment, didn't see any post from you jumping all over that. if you're playing self appointed banter ref-official, don't do so, so blatantly one-sided narrow-minded[/reply ]
& as far as me just placing blame of memory loss on the stroke when you keep insinuating it just poor memory, 1st of all shame on you as a medical professional you know better. 2ndly how can you be so certain in your claim that it isn't from the stroke, when you don't know me, my history etc. according to family, friends, school & medical records, from preschool thru college age & right up to the stroke. I had an incredible even photo/audiographic memory. apparently, according to all sources & documents/evidence, I had to see, read or hear something, only ONE time. & still be able to recall EVERY detail. right up to the day I suffered the stroke. what a coincidence. :S & even more so that when I final woke up in the ICU weeks later I couldn't recall my own identity or what had happened to me. It only came back to me much like the physical aspects, through intense long term rehab therapy. & even so of course it wasnt 100%
It's pretty pathetic when you have to TELL people you're fucking cool Skymama «narrative»This thread will lock in 3..2.. What a load of narrow-minded Xenophobic Bullshit!-squeak

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1. The role of the President [when we all should know that the Presidents job is not to hold power, but to draw attention away from the real source of it. (and although President Bush might be good at that Zaphod Beeblebrox really is the best)]





Nice to know that the Presidents handlers that hold the leash on his collar, that have gotten rich off this war ORDERED him to fix the propaganda so the rubes could believe this war was NOT about the oil....:S:S NO.. most of this country knows no such thing....they do not WANT to believe.

Some of us realized that a long time ago..the war is about the oil... not the phantom menace of the WMD.. then liberating the Iraqi people when the other story no longer flew in the face of the reality our troops were not finding SQUAT.

BUT ....bottom line....he is the one with the POWER to send off our young people to a bogus war and he did it with glee and sent thousands of Americans off to their deaths.

Edited to add... PNAC told the American People what they wanted to do....and Bush and Cheney were good to that document.. certainly not to their WORD about no nation building.....so when those on the FRINGE Right want to argue about Bush no being a lying sack of shit.... I guess they have selective memory about that little FACT.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GGDwvAbx_fg


Liar Liar too bad YOUR pants are not on fire>:(

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