quade 4 #1 June 26, 2008 Quote Supreme Court Gun Ban Ruling Expected Tomorrow The U.S. Supreme Court today did not release its long-awaited ruling on whether the District's handgun ban violates the Second Amendment. That means the potentially landmark decision will almost certainly come tomorrow morning when the court is planning to issue the last of its rulings for the term. The case, District of Columbia v. Heller, which was argued nearly four months ago, could settle the decades-old debate over whether the Second Amendment grants individuals the right to own firearms. Mayor Adrain M. Fenty is planning to hold a news conference at the John A. Wilson Building after the decision is announced. Man, that's going to be interesting.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #2 June 26, 2008 hmm...sounds like they didn't want this verdict overshadowing any of the others this month. WTF does that imply? Maybe they all have flights out of the country at noon tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #3 June 26, 2008 Quote Man, that's going to be interesting. I'm expecting something very limited in scope.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #4 June 26, 2008 QuoteQuoteMan, that's going to be interesting. I'm expecting something very limited in scope. Based on some of the decisions that have been announced as of late, I'm not betting on it...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #5 June 26, 2008 Quote Based on some of the decisions that have been announced as of late, I'm not betting on it... Really! A firm decision pro 2nd would be a great day, IMO.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #6 June 26, 2008 QuoteQuote Based on some of the decisions that have been announced as of late, I'm not betting on it... Really! A firm decision pro 2nd would be a great day, IMO. Yeah it would.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #7 June 26, 2008 Quote Quote Based on some of the decisions that have been announced as of late, I'm not betting on it... Really! A firm decision pro 2nd would be a great day, IMO. I too, would be very happy. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #8 June 26, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Based on some of the decisions that have been announced as of late, I'm not betting on it... Really! A firm decision pro 2nd would be a great day, IMO. I too, would be very happy. If they lift the ban, will kallend still be trying to say the crime is due to the guns?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #9 June 26, 2008 QuoteQuote Man, that's going to be interesting. I'm expecting something very limited in scope. As do I. Both sides will be disapointed while both sides claim a victory of some kind"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #10 June 26, 2008 The question is, will Scalia go emo over this one as well_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #11 June 26, 2008 Any place to listen? I just heard it is being read now. or at least in a few minutes"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #12 June 26, 2008 Heller afirmed "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #13 June 26, 2008 Restricted scope, or broad terms?We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #14 June 26, 2008 QuoteRestricted scope, or broad terms? Still waiting on details but what I am "hearing" the Brady Bunch will be crying"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #15 June 26, 2008 Court: A constitutional right to a gun Thursday, June 26th, 2008 10:14 am | Lyle Denniston | Comments Off | Email this • Share on Facebook • Digg This! Answering a 127-year old constitutional question, the Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to have a gun, at least in one’s home. The Court, splitting 5-4, struck down a District of Columbia ban on handgun possession. Justice Antonin Scalia’s opinion for the majority stressed that the Court was not casting doubt on long-standing bans on gun possession by felons or the mentally retarded, or laws barring guns from schools or government buildings, or laws putting conditions on gun sales. In District of Columbia v. Heller (07-290), the Court nullified two provisions of the city of Washington’s strict 1976 gun control law: a flat ban on possessing a gun in one’s home, and a requirement that any gun — except one kept at a business — must be unloaded and disassembled or have a trigger lock in place. The Court said it was not passing on a part of the law requiring that guns be licensed."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #16 June 26, 2008 We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #17 June 26, 2008 Quote Heller afirmed So basically, the Chicago gun ban is next... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #18 June 26, 2008 Quotes from the opinion: “Logic demands that there be a link between the stated purpose and the command.” “We start therefore with a strong presumption that the Second Amendment right is exercised individually and belongs to all Americans.” “the most natural reading of ‘keep Arms’ in the Second Amendment is to “have weapons.” “The term was applied, then as now, to weapons that were not specifically designed for military use and were not employed in a military capacity.” “Putting all of these textual elements together, we find that they guarantee the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation.” “Thus, we do not read the Second Amendment to protect the right of citizens to carry arms for any sort of confrontation, just as we do not read the First Amendment to protect the right of citizens to speak for any purpose.” “The prefatory clause does not suggest that preserving the militia was the only reason Americans valued the ancient right; most undoubtedly thought it even more important for self-defense and hunting.”"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #19 June 26, 2008 Full opinion here: http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/07-290.pdfWe are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RALFFERS 0 #20 June 26, 2008 Quote Quote Heller afirmed So basically, the Chicago gun ban is next... FINALLY!! I never could understand why I can't have a handgun in my house, but it's perfectly legal to have a rifle and/or shotgun... Dialogue/commentary between Divot, Twardo & myself - "from your first Oshkosh when the three of us were riding to or from one of Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #21 June 26, 2008 The specifically upheld one ability to protect your home, and to have the gun in the house without gun locks, if I'm reading this correctly. My county doesn't allow that. Guess that's going to change.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #22 June 26, 2008 Have you read any of the desenting opinion from your link? Hell, they even reference the Miller case to desent for shits sake. It looks to me (a very non expert) that those in desent used a political view to make thier case, not a legal one "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #23 June 26, 2008 This is EXCELLENT news!!Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #24 June 26, 2008 It'll be the weekend before I can really sit down with this. I am quite pleased right now. The county I live in makes it very difficult to get a handgun, plus you're not allowed to defend you're home with it. If you did defend you're home, the cops might get nasty, and you'd be open to civil litigation.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #25 June 26, 2008 QuoteQuotes from the opinion: “The term was applied, then as now, to weapons that were not specifically designed for military use and were not employed in a military capacity.” That's the opening the gun-o-phobes need to continue pressing for a ban on so-called "assault weapons". On the other hand, there are HUNDREDS of local gun control laws that are about to be overturned based upon this decision. Woohoo! Thank you Mr. Heller and the NRA. It's too bad it took 30 stinking years to get this done. The only thing that is surprising is that there are still four liberal communists on the Court who think otherwise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
