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Do you think the US deserved 9/11?

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I'm going to try as hard as I possibly can to not admit that I agree with your last statement by asking your prediction in the Euro 2008 Semi here in an hour.

I'm taking a long lunch to see it. :D



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You should enjoy a good beer along with it ... you know, at the end it will be black-red-gold, my bet ;);)

Bratwurst defeats Doener

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Vote and explain your reasoning. There is no third choice because its a pretty simpe question.

If you vote yes, then are are saying that the Taliban are basically well meaning people who just got their toes stepped on by the big bad US and had to respond in the only way that they could.



You're a funny guy. What's it like to live in a binary world? How do you even manage to walk around without the ability to see shades of grey?

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You should enjoy a good beer along with it ... you know, at the end it will be black-red-gold, my bet ;);)

Bratwurst defeats Doener

B|B|B|




MMMMmm.... bratwurst

MMMMmmmm.... doener

Decisions, decisions... do I get to have the doener toasted, with schafskaese? (I'm sure my spelling sucks)
Mike
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MMMMmm.... bratwurst

MMMMmmmm.... doener

Decisions, decisions... do I get to have the doener toasted, with schafskaese? (I'm sure my spelling sucks)



Absolutely not, it's perfect!

Schafskaese: Woah! Love it! Beautiful! (Even I'd prefer it w/o a Doener, as I'm vegetarian :$)


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dudeist skydiver # 3105

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MMMMmm.... bratwurst

MMMMmmmm.... doener

Decisions, decisions... do I get to have the doener toasted, with schafskaese? (I'm sure my spelling sucks)



Absolutely not, it's perfect!

Schafskaese: Woah! Love it! Beautiful! (Even I'd prefer it w/o a Doener, as I'm vegetarian :$)


:)


There was an imbiss in Worms that served doener that way - toasted pita w/schafskaese...plenty of onion and tsaziki... heavenly!!!
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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I see plenty of shades of gray, but I also sometimes see pure black and white.

Shades of gray- the differences between how Europeans and US citizens approach healthcare. Many world trade policies and organizations. Economic conditions that create great wealth for some while impoverishing others.

Pure black- those who want to kill others for having a different religious belief than them. Puppy eating;) The Boston Redsocks.:)

Pure white- probably no one. But I am damn sure that the US is more white than the Taliban if you want to put it that way.

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>But I am damn sure that the US is more white than the Taliban if you
>want to put it that way.

Well, they are now. Back in the mid-1990's when we were strongly supporting them, we thought they were pretty dang white.

(What scares me is looking at what happened to allow the Taliban to rise to power - basically a generation of Afghans who knew nothing but war and unrest, and wanted to impose strict controls on the population to prevent that from happening again.)

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Well, believe it or not, some things are worth people dying for.



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Sending a message to the world that we will not tolerate terrorism and that we are preparted to hunt you down and kill you if you do it to us or want to do it to us might be.



Not only them, those that supported them.
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...it was not as important as going after a completely different countries supply of oil.



If it was really about the oil, we'd own the oil now and be pumping it out at record rates. Since we're not doing anywhere close to that, I think your claim doesn't stand scrutiny.
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>If it was really about the oil, we'd own the oil now and be pumping it out at record rates.

If we were more competent at such imperialism we would be.

>Since we're not doing anywhere close to that, I think your claim
>doesn't stand scrutiny.

Well, people claimed it was about WMD's as well. Since we didn't find any, does that mean that the WMD rationale never existed?

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>If it was really about the oil, we'd own the oil now and be pumping it out at record rates.



It is not in the oil companies interests to pump it out at record rates, they'd rather the world paid record prices. But it goes beyond oil. Wars cost a lot of money to wage. Look at who is taking that money, and where that money is coming from.



>Do you think the US deserved 9/11?

To think that anyone on the planet deserves anything like that shows a sad state of affairs.
but what do I know

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It is not in the oil companies interests ...



Which oil companies are you referring to?



OK let me correct that to the powers that really control the world, its major governments and most of its resources.

Think
but what do I know

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It is not in the oil companies interests ...



Which oil companies are you referring to?


OK let me correct that to the powers that really control the world, its major governments and most of its resources.

Think


Which ones... the Bilderbergers or the Trilateral Commission? :S
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Does that include us when we support terrorists?



The world needs a clear winner right now. Badly.



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Take ya pick dude :S

My original point was more about the military spend. Seems to be a pretty fucking obvious conflict of interest going on within the US government, but that seems to be ok with most people.

While we're at it, same deal applies to oil.




let history judge.

but what do I know

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