Nice Chris Matthews Clip

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Did he get another tingle up his leg?

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That's funny!

It's the difference between talking the talk and walking the walk.
His advocate, ignorant of any accomplishments with which to reply, suggested hope is good enough.

I'd hope BO has done 'something' that could be referenced yet his advocate is/was ignorant.

BO's campaign could at least provide cheat sheets for the congresscritters when appearing on the boobtube.
Perhaps there is really nothing to reply to the question with.


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ROFLMAO too funny.

You know I am sure Barack Obama is a fine man of integrity (not sure if this integrity applies to his church affiliation) and I am sure Barack Obama has a great future as a US senator representing the people of Illinois. But he clearly does NOT have the experience to be the prez.

I still think out of all the clowns who wanted the job, Mitt Romney was one of the rare people who was actually qualified when it comes to skills and experience. Romney has a proven track record running successful large businesses. Romney has a proven track record running a state as a governor and Romney has a proven track record turning around the Salt Lake City Olympics. Too bad the evangelicals of the GOP couldn't see past his moromon religious beliefs. Ron Paul was also a wildcard but the Republicans and the MSM wrote him off before the start gun even went off.

So that leaves us McCain versus Obama. McCain has experience, but I am still not sold on the man (of course my opinion means squat) and Obama is NOT qualified. How he got this far is beyond me. I see the Democrates of the USA and the LIEberals of Canada have something in common. Both make wild utopian promises to their socialist lemmings and the lemmings actually believe these people mean what they say. Oh well, at least Hillary Clinton won't be prez (this time around).

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Oh well, at least Hillary Clinton won't be prez (this time around).

That's the ONLY good thing about the campaign.

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Apparently Matthews doesn't understand that individual legislators don't accomplish things in Congress. Obama is on a team of 100 (as is McCain), which itself is only half of a larger team.

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Apparently Matthews doesn't understand that individual legislators don't accomplish things in Congress. Obama is on a team of 100 (as is McCain), which itself is only half of a larger team.

Back to High School Civics class for you...

Things an individual US Senator can point to as legislative accomplishments include their actions and influence on committees, sponsoring bills, diplomatic work, particularly influential speeches in support or opposition to legislative debate, on and on...

So, while your comment is correct, it's not even close to the whole picture. If it were, then why didn't Watson simply say what you said to Matthews? Apparently they both don't agree with you.

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Apparently Matthews doesn't understand that individual legislators don't accomplish things in Congress. Obama is on a team of 100 (as is McCain), which itself is only half of a larger team.

Back to High School Civics class for you...

Things an individual US Senator can point to as legislative accomplishments include their actions and influence on committees, sponsoring bills, diplomatic work, particularly influential speeches in support or opposition to legislative debate, on and on...

So the Congressman being interviewed by Matthews was supposed to list a bunch of intangibles? Obama influenced a lot of people? He has, in fact, done just that, especially among young voters, but it's extremely difficult to quantify how much was do to him being Obama, and how much was due to him being a prominent Democratic presidential candidate.

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So, while your comment is correct, it's not even close to the whole picture.

Nor was the question Matthews posed indicative of anything pertinent. It appeared to be intentionally crafted to have no answer that was not easy for him to criticize. Had the interviewee listed any accomplishments, it would have been very easy to follow up asking how could Obama possibly claim credit for something that required the majority of Congress to accomplish.

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If it were, then why didn't Watson simply say what you said to Matthews?

Perhaps because he was blindsided with an unanswerable question. People are often surprised when unexpectedly antagonized. It was a short interview; he only needed to be put off balance for a short time.

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# of bills sponsored intangible? I think not. Content of bills sponsored intangible? I think not. # of hearings called for intangible? I think not.

How many bills did Senator Kerry or Senator Obama sponsor and get pushed through - either of them - out of morbid curiosity?

That Watson fellow - smashing last name - was ill prepared for the interview. The 'what has Obama accomplished?' mantra will be key to Republican rhetoric throughout the campaign. Leftists had better get used to it. Or better still - break the 'run like cowards' mold of answering questions that many of them have adopted and craft a response! That would be ever so nice.

Unfortunately for them, there's not much substance from Sen Obama's record with which to craft a response. They've created a campaign based upon populism, dissatisfaction with an unpopular President, and oratorical ability. As my favorite elderly actress of all time might ask, 'Where's the beef?'

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Apparently Matthews doesn't understand that individual legislators don't accomplish things in Congress. Obama is on a team of 100 (as is McCain), which itself is only half of a larger team.

Back to High School Civics class for you...

Things an individual US Senator can point to as legislative accomplishments include their actions and influence on committees, sponsoring bills, diplomatic work, particularly influential speeches in support or opposition to legislative debate, on and on...

So the Congressman being interviewed by Matthews was supposed to list a bunch of intangibles?

When you sponsor a bill and get your name on it, that's not an intangible. No one would have a problem with John McCain or Russ Feingold claiming the drafting of the campaign finance reform bill as part of their accomplishments.

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What is this unanswerable question you speak of?

Is his Senate voting record intangible?
Perhaps it is not an asset in his case?
(I'm ignorant of his record, I just know what other candidates have touted in the past)

Many Americans require some documented history that a candidate supports their interests.

This is not student council he is running for.
He is running for the highest office in the land.
The winner will be CinC of our armed forces.

He and his cronies need to be prepared for way more than a 'blindsided question' from a left leaning journalist.

Watson and by extension BO got pwned by prissy Chrissy!
His show is not called Softball after all.


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# of bills sponsored intangible? I think not.

I don't think it's intangible either, but its also not an accomplishment.

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Content of bills sponsored intangible?

Yes.

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# of hearings called for intangible? I think not.

Again, calling a hearing is not an accomplishment.

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How many bills did Senator Kerry or Senator Obama sponsor and get pushed through - either of them - out of morbid curiosity?

All by themselves? I would say none, same as the other 98 Senators.

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That Watson fellow - smashing last name - was ill prepared for the interview.

Agreed.He was obviously not expecting to receive a question with no right answer.

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The 'what has Obama accomplished?' mantra will be key to Republican rhetoric throughout the campaign.

What has McCain accomplished by himself in the Senate?

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Leftists had better get used to it. Or better still - break the 'run like cowards' mold of answering questions that many of them have adopted and craft a response!

I suppose the "tell outright lies" strategy of the current administration is admirable in your eyes?

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Unfortunately for them, there's not much substance from Sen Obama's record with which to craft a response.

As is the case with the congressional records of the other individual Congresspersons. Looking at the Constitution, I don't see where the Founding Fathers gave power to any other individual in Congress, with the exception of the Vice President, in the event of a Senate tie.

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They've created a campaign based upon populism, dissatisfaction with an unpopular President, and oratorical ability.

That's how our primary system of selecting Presidential nominees works. Do you really believe GWB was the very best candidate the Republicans could come up with in 2000? In my lifetime, I haven't seen either party nominate the most qualified person for the job. It's not a partisan problem. It's a problem inherent to the primary system. It's an easily manipulatable form of democratic selection. Unfortunately, as John Stewart pointed out on Crossfire in 2004, we don't go with the best candidates, we go with the ones that win the primaries. It needs to be fixed, but both entrenched parties stand to lose power by doing so, so until citizens generally stop being apathetic to the political process, we're stuck with it.

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As my favorite elderly actress of all time might ask, 'Where's the beef?'

I don't think there's anybody back there.

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Sponsoring a bill not an accomplishment? Bullshit. It takes quite a bit of work - administratively and otherwise - to draft a bill and get it before a committee for consideration. Work and a lot of leadership.

Content of a sponsored bill intangible? Bullshit. The content of sponsored legislation is QUITE tangible - especially in conjunction with how far the legislation proceeded.

Calling hearings on an issue not an accomplishment? Bullshit. Getting a hearing before a committee isn't exactly easy, and it shows a dedicated interest in the topic of the hearing.

Sponsors of a bill not pushing a bill through congress? BULLSHIT. They're key and critical in garnering support for and getting the bill through. Implying that all 100 members of the Senate have an equal role in passage of any piece of legislation is absurd.

The Constitution alone grants Senators power within the Senate itself? Bullshit! There are committees, sub-committees, rules of order on the floor and in committee, committee chairmanships, vice-chairmanships, Majority and Minority leaders, and other positions and powers that go along with them. Weighs and Means Chairman is FAR more powerful than the Chairman of the Agricultural Committee, for example.

There IS an answer to Matthews' question - you just don't like it. THe answer is - there aren't many accomplishments at all about which to speak.

I don't advocate the outright lies of anyone, left or right, and am not speaking of the current administration - I'm speaking of the Democratic nominee. Changing the subject won't give Senator Obama any accomplishments to speak of - only his record will do that, if such accomplishments do exist.

Do you REALLY think populism, oratorical ability, and current political climate are the ingredients to a successful primary run? Dig deeper - that's far from correct.

The answer to my query is quite simple - there is no beef. Only populism, oratorical ability, and the advantage of running against a party with an extremely unpopular President in office.

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What is this unanswerable question you speak of?

What are Obama's accomplishments in the Senate?

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Is his Senate voting record intangible?

It's a sad day in America when voting is considered an accomplishment.

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Many Americans require some documented history that a candidate supports their interests.

Agreed. A voting record can be useful for obtaining such information. However, Congress members get paid to vote on legislation. Voting is not some special accomplishment. When was the last time you heard a taxi driver brag about driving? Or a garbage collector brag about picking up your trash?

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He and his cronies need to be prepared for way more than a 'blindsided question' from a left leaning journalist.

Calling that "left leaning journalism" is laughable, at best.

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Watson and by extension BO got pwned by prissy Chrissy!

Sure, if you say so. All I came away with after watching the interview was a question of whether Matthews has ever read the Constitution, and how he ever got a job in the national media. I suppose the opinions of some people are more easily manipulated by the theater that passes as news media these days than mine are. Such is life.

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There IS an answer to Matthews' question - you just don't like it. THe answer is - there aren't many accomplishments at all about which to speak.

Perhaps not many, but there are some. For example, he co-sponsored the Lugar-Obama non-proliferation bill, which Bush signed into law. That showed leadership on Obama's part as well as the ability to reach across the aisle. Granted, he won't have as wide a resume as McCain given the short time he's been in Congress.

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Sponsoring a bill not an accomplishment?

No.

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Bullshit. It takes quite a bit of work - administratively and otherwise - to draft a bill and get it before a committee for consideration. Work and a lot of leadership.

A team effort is required, not that drafting a bill is the same as sponsoring a bill. Sponsors do not always draft.

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Content of a sponsored bill intangible?

Yes. What could the content have otherwise been? Could it have been better or worse? By whose opinion?

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Calling hearings on an issue not an accomplishment?

No, it's not.

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Sponsors of a bill not pushing a bill through congress?

Passing a bill in either house is a team effort, not an individual one.

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They're key and critical in garnering support for and getting the bill through. Implying that all 100 members of the Senate have an equal role in passage of any piece of legislation is absurd.

True, only 51 (or 50 + VP) are really necessary.

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The Constitution alone grants Senators power within the Senate itself? Bullshit! There are committees, sub-committees, rules of order on the floor and in committee, committee chairmanships, vice-chairmanships, Majority and Minority leaders, and other positions and powers that go along with them. Weighs and Means Chairman is FAR more powerful than the Chairman of the Agricultural Committee, for example.

Being a part of or coordinating a team effort is not an individual accomplishment worthy of note.

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There IS an answer to Matthews' question - you just don't like it. THe answer is - there aren't many accomplishments at all about which to speak.

Which is also true for any of the other 99 Senators.

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Changing the subject won't give Senator Obama any accomplishments to speak of - only his record will do that, if such accomplishments do exist.

I'll help you out. Like the other 99 Senators, his individual accomplishments in Congress during this session of Congress (or any other in which he was a member of Congress) are virtually non-existent.

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Do you REALLY think populism, oratorical ability, and current political climate are the ingredients to a successful primary run?

Yes, if you throw in a substantial amount of money.

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Dig deeper - that's far from correct.

Enlighten us. What recent major party nominee was the most qualified candidate his party could have found from within the entirety of their ranks?

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The answer to my query is quite simple - there is no beef.

That's what I said in my original post in this thread. At least we agree on something.

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face reality whenever you like.

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face reality whenever you like.

I already have. Will you?

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I always face reality. And reality is that sponsoring a bill is an accomplishment, content of a sponsored bill is tangible, Congressmen do NOT exert the same effort to get a bill through, getting a hearing before a committee is an accomplishment, coordinating a successful team effort is an accomplishment and ignoring those facts will not make them go away. Face them whenever you so desire.

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I always face reality. And reality is that sponsoring a bill is an accomplishment, content of a sponsored bill is tangible, Congressmen do NOT exert the same effort to get a bill through, getting a hearing before a committee is an accomplishment, coordinating a successful team effort is an accomplishment and ignoring those facts will not make them go away. Face them whenever you so desire.

At the end of the day, if a bill passes through Congress and makes it to the President's desk, that is an accomplishment of Congress. That's reality.

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What are Obama's accomplishments in the Senate?

Sen Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 152 bills in the Senate.
Some were perfunctory, like [url http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d109:3:./temp/~bdHNmu::]S.RES.291: A resolution to congratulate the Chicago White Sox on winning the 2005 World Series Championship, which passed the Senate Unanimously.

Others, like
[url http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d109:8:./temp/~bdHNmu::]S.969: A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act with respect to preparation for an influenza pandemic, including an avian influenza pandemic, and for other purposes,
S.1180: A bill to amend title 38, United States Code, to reauthorize various programs servicing the needs of homeless veterans for fiscal years 2007 through 2011, and for other purposes,
S.1194: A bill to direct the Nuclear Regulatory Commission to establish guidelines and procedures for tracking, controlling, and accounting for individual spent fuel rods and segments,
S.1975: A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections,
S.2045: A bill to provide incentives to the auto industry to accelerate efforts to develop more energy-efficient vehicles to lessen dependence on oil,
S.2261: A bill to provide transparency and integrity in the earmark process,
S.2446: A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes,
S.3475: A bill to provide housing assistance for very low-income veterans,
S.AMDT.390 to H.R.1268 To provide meal and telephone benefits for members of the Armed Forces who are recuperating from injuries incurred on active duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom or Operation Enduring Freedom,
S.AMDT.2965 to S.2349 To ban employment negotiations to become lobbyists by Members of Congress and required recusal for senior congressional staff while in office,
S.AMDT.3144 to S.CON.RES.83 To provide a $40 million increase in FY 2007 for the Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program and to improve job services for hard-to-place veterans,
S.AMDT.3695 to H.R.4939 To improve financial transparency in hurricane recovery by requiring the Director of the Office of Management and Budget to make information about Federal contracts publicly available,
S.AMDT.4224 to S.2766 To include assessments of Traumatic Brain Injury in the post-deployment health assessments of member of the Armed Forces returning from deployment in support of a contingency operation, and
S.AMDT.5169 to S.3709 To clarify United States policy in order to deter nuclear testing by foreign governments
are more substantive examples of legislation introduced.

I'm not sure what is the average number of bills introduced by a junior Senator. Speculate Sen Obama's is average to well above average.

Sen Obama has also teamed with Sen Lugar (R-IN) in advancing Cooperative Threat Reduction to reduce weapons vulnerability to non-state actors (terrorists), specifically antiaircraft missiles, stolen WMDs, and conventional weapons used in IEDs.

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What are Obama's accomplishments in the Senate?

Sen Obama has [url http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&Db=d109&querybd=@FIELD(FLD003+@4((@1(Sen+Obama++Barack))+01763))]sponsored or co-sponsored 152 bills in the Senate.

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Again, I don't consider sponsoring a bill a noteworthy accomplishment. It does, however, highlight issues and stances important to Obama, which is useful. However, simply doing his job is not noteworthy. Nor is it noteworthy if McCain does his job.

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Had the interviewee listed any accomplishments, it would have been very easy to follow up asking how could Obama possibly claim credit for something that required the majority of Congress to accomplish.

That "what if" guess is quite a stretch. You really think if Watson mentioned at least one bill Obama sponsored, Matthews would retort "wrong. you can't do anything by yourself in the Senate". Really?

Seems to me what really happened in that interview is that Matthews was trying to find out whether Watson was familiar at all with anything Obama did in the Senate or if he was simply on the "Obama inspires us" bandwagon.

Matthews then exhibited contempt for an elected official who would endorse for president someone they know nothing of substance about.

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Had the interviewee listed any accomplishments, it would have been very easy to follow up asking how could Obama possibly claim credit for something that required the majority of Congress to accomplish.

That "what if" guess is quite a stretch. You really think if Watson mentioned at least one bill Obama sponsored, Matthews would retort "wrong. you can't do anything by yourself in the Senate". Really?

Yes. It's good for ratings. Good ratings bring in more advertising revenue. More advertising revenue typically generates more profits. More profits keeps shareholders happy. Welcome to corporate media.

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Yes. It's good for ratings.

I support your freedom to keep your conspiracy blinders. It's human nature on occasion to not see things clearly if it goes against our expectations.

I on the other hand prefer to see this interview more simply. Matthews caught a supporter not knowing anything about the track record of the person they're supporting.

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