Creationist brands cross on student's arm

[billvon 3,133]

I know some teachers leave strong impressions on their students, but I didn't think anyone took it _this_ literally:

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Teacher accused of burning cross on student's arm

(CNN) -- School administrators in Ohio voted Friday to begin the process of firing a middle school teacher accused of burning a cross into a student's arm and refusing to keep his religious beliefs out of the classroom.

The Mount Vernon School Board passed a resolution to terminate the employment of John Freshwater, an eighth-grade science teacher for the past 21 years.

Freshwater, according to an independent report, used an electrostatic device to mark a cross on the arm of one of his students, causing pain to the student the night of the incident and leaving a mark that lasted for approximately three weeks.

According to the Ohio Department of Education, the student's family has filed a lawsuit.

Freshwater was also reprimanded several times for refusing to move his Bible from his classroom desk and teaching creationism alongside evolution, according to the 15-page independent report. The report also cites evidence that Mr. Freshwater told his students that "science is wrong because the Bible states that homosexuality is a sin and so anyone who is gay chooses to be gay and is therefore a sinner."
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One odd thing - "begin the process of firing?" I would think anyone who brands a 13 year old student with their favorite religious symbol gets fired sorta automatically, just after the police arrive. Maybe they should add that to their contract - no branding of students.

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Maybe they should add that to their contract - no branding of students.

Sheesh, so the teachers can't spank the students, and now you want to take away their right to brand them as well????

And I'll bet that none of those students could explain to him what happened to cause the Big Bang, so it makes perfect sense that he should start branding crosses on their arms.

[jumpin_Jan 1]

Too bad the science teacher of 21 years is anti science.

Did god or Science leave the mark on the childs arm?
I'll bet god is not going to pay his civil lawsuit fines either.

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The report also cites evidence that Mr. Freshwater told his students that "science is wrong because the Bible states that homosexuality is a sin and so anyone who is gay chooses to be gay and is therefore a sinner."

What a loon! A science teacher claiming that science is wrong.
He could have explained the difference between the lining of the vagina and the rectum.
There are clearly health benifits to hetero sex when compared to homo. Same thing goes for monogamous relationships when compared to multiple partners.
That approach would have been valid and within the scope of his teaching 'science'.
I wonder if he thinks 'belief' prevents or cures STD's.
Does he think 'science' advocates homo?

Instead he references the novel.
Ignorant fundies drive me nuts!

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jumpin_Jan

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One odd thing - "begin the process of firing?" I would think anyone who brands a 13 year old student with their favorite religious symbol gets fired sorta automatically, just after the police arrive.

What I was thinking. How is this not a criminal case? To say the least, it's assault.

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There are clearly health benifits to hetero sex when compared to homo.

Ummm.... that's really bullshit. Want to take a wild guess about who has the lowest number of sex related health risks and STD rates? I'll give you a hint, ok? They're not straight and they wear comfortable shoes. Starts with a "L" and ends with "esbians"

It could be argued that 50% of the "homos" you are speaking of are healthier than heteros.

And this has zero to do with this asshat in Ohio regardless.

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There are clearly health benifits to hetero sex when compared to homo.

Ummm.... that's really bullshit. Want to take a wild guess about who has the lowest number of sex related health risks and STD rates? I'll give you a hint, ok? They're not straight and they wear comfortable shoes. Starts with a "L" and ends with "esbians"

It could be argued that 50% of the "homos" you are speaking of are healthier than heteros.

And this has zero to do with this asshat in Ohio regardless.

I clearly said homo versus hetero. not lesbo V hetero.
Lesbians are a subset of homosexuals last I checked.

Lesbians are still at risk for STD's (around 13%) though perhaps to a lesser degree than male homo's.

It is not irrelevant to the OP either, I quoted the posted article for fucks sake!

I was not making a moral judgement as the fundie did in the original article.
I was just pointing out a valid scientific fact that is more likely to produce the results the fundie was seeking. That seems relevant to me.

I think a South Park is relevant here.
"You've got to get that sand out of your vagina; it's making you cranky. Does it itch?"


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jumpin_Jan

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I was talking to my son the other day, who was bored becasue his friend couldn't come out and play on Sunday. He said their family has to stay home and read the bible on Sunday. When I suggested that if he were bored that he, too, could read the Bible, Jay replied, "I read the Bible enough at school. Ms. Shipp makes us read it!" I was amazed! On top of that, she's stupid.

Just thought I'd share.

linz

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Does your son attend a public school? If so, I find that rather troubling (the forced bible reading, not the public school attendance).

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I clearly said homo versus hetero. not lesbo V hetero.
Lesbians are a subset of homosexuals last I checked.

Yah, you were clear. What you are clearly lacking is an actual dictionary to check.

After you've looked up "homosexual" take to little side journey and try on the definition of "retarded"

The last time I checked that's a subset of hetero.

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[billvon 3,133]

Your one warning.

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I read about this f-tard. Sickening. This guy deserves what's coming to him.

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That teacher is a complete nutjob. That's what you would call a radical Christian. I mention 'radical Christian' because I mentioned 'radical Muslims' in another thread the other day. Both nuts, just different texts.

I would also call him a criminal just like you Bill. He deserves to be instantly fired and arrested for his actions.

Bolt your doors. Nutjobs are everywhere.

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One odd thing - "begin the process of firing?" I would think anyone who brands a 13 year old student with their favorite religious symbol gets fired sorta automatically, just after the police arrive. Maybe they should add that to their contract - no branding of students.

My educated guess is that it's a due process procedure built into the contract. It's fairly common with trades & professions that use a single contract to cover everyone in a given union local - typical with police, fire dept, teachers, etc. Probably a "suspended with intent to terminate" situation - the employee is suspended and/or taken off-duty immediately, often for about 30 days, during which interval the union is notified that management intends to terminate the employee, and the union is given a set amount of time to decide whether or not to file a grievance. At the end of the waiting period, the employee's interim status morphs into a termination.

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Your one warning.

So you decided to nip the Who's-got-better-hygeine-homos-or-heteros debate in the bud heh?

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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There are clearly health benifits to hetero sex when compared to homo.

Ummm.... that's really bullshit. Want to take a wild guess about who has the lowest number of sex related health risks and STD rates? I'll give you a hint, ok? They're not straight and they wear comfortable shoes. Starts with a "L" and ends with "esbians"

It could be argued that 50% of the "homos" you are speaking of are healthier than heteros.

And this has zero to do with this asshat in Ohio regardless.

OH! OH! I know this one. It's, uh, Lancastrians. No that's not it, uh, uh, . . . Lesthosians. Damn. wrong ending. I'll have to get back to you.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

[labrys 0]

Sorry, Bill.

It's just that's it's really hard to get the sand out of the ol' vagina without venting a bit

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Anyone know if the teacher was arrested? The article just mentions the "firing process" and a lawsuit from the family. I would think that intentionally burning a child would constitute a criminal act (assault, child abuse). If it were my child I would want him to spend time in jail.

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I would also call him a criminal just like you Bill.

Why would you call Bill a criminal?

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Sorry, Bill.

It's just that's it's really hard to get the sand out of the ol' vagina without venting a bit

I'd figure a bidet or a hand-held shower head might be more effective...but that's just me.

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Anyone know if the teacher was arrested? The article just mentions the "firing process" and a lawsuit from the family. I would think that intentionally burning a child would constitute a criminal act (assault, child abuse). If it were my child I would want him to spend time in jail.

No way. You'd get some Christian judge who'd say that "Our Creator approved the cross as a symbol of those who are going to be rescued", and gave the teacher a monetary award for saving the poor kid from Hell.

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I'd figure a bidet or a hand-held shower head might be more effective...but that's just me.

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I was talking to my son the other day, who was bored becasue his friend couldn't come out and play on Sunday. He said their family has to stay home and read the bible on Sunday. When I suggested that if he were bored that he, too, could read the Bible, Jay replied, "I read the Bible enough at school. Ms. Shipp makes us read it!" I was amazed! On top of that, she's stupid.

Just thought I'd share.

linz

You are in Utah, right?? So is it the "bible" or "The book of Mormon" ?

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