lawrocket 3 #1 June 12, 2008 One of the things that Americans in general seem to ignore the fact that our "crises" are often worldwide. Guess what? This fuel crisis is affecting the WORLD. Portugal's main airport is shut down. Europeans are striking and protesting (and killing each other in these protests). The fuel crisis is hitting Europe every bit as hard, if not harder, than here. And I don't think they blame it on a strengthened Euro. The "credit crunch?" Yeah. Look to Europe. And I don't think they blame it on Countrywide. So whenever you look at the American corporate greed holding down the little man, try thinking a bit about whether other parts of the world are similarly situated. Wake up, Americans. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #2 June 12, 2008 QuoteThe "credit crunch?" Yeah. Look to Europe. And I don't think they blame it on Countrywide. Actually... that's pretty much where most of the blame is being directed... though it's usually phrased more generally as "the American sub-prime market". That is what caused the global credit crunch... There is of course some blame for it's spread round the globe being directed at financial institutions in other countries who were greedily buying into re-packaged dodgy loans originated by the US housing market, but when they're being (potentially negligently or fraudulently) rated as "A" grade there is at least a little understanding with their situation. But mostly... yeah – people are blaming American corporate greed for starting it all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #3 June 12, 2008 No one is ignoring it, but there's not a lot we can do about their problem. Less than nothing really - the Europeans are already pretty efficient at how much gas they consume, and the upper class in the developing world aren't going to listen to us tell them to do as we say, not as we do. However, our self interest is also in the interest of the world. If we cut our use 50%, supply would cover demand again for another decade or so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #4 June 12, 2008 as long as we continue to waste precious fossile fuels for private transportation and producing electricity (and adding carbondioxide to our atmospsphere with uncertain outcome) instead of investing in renewable ressources (which also holds another can of questionable worms) or solar power in our countries, there is no way to tell upcoming nations how to stop wasting energy. my personal 0,2: it is not a matter if but when the the really big crisis will hit our societies which are so dependet on the global transportation of goods, which is totally dependent on the supply with fossil fuels...The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #5 June 12, 2008 QuoteOne of the things that Americans in general seem to ignore the fact that our "crises" are often worldwide. Guess what? This fuel crisis is affecting the WORLD. Portugal's main airport is shut down. Europeans are striking and protesting (and killing each other in these protests). The fuel crisis is hitting Europe every bit as hard, if not harder, than here. And I don't think they blame it on a strengthened Euro. The "credit crunch?" Yeah. Look to Europe. And I don't think they blame it on Countrywide. So whenever you look at the American corporate greed holding down the little man, try thinking a bit about whether other parts of the world are similarly situated. Wake up, Americans. You're right. It's not American Corporate greed, it's the greed of the interlocking directorates of multinational corporations ...that, and a major US invasion into the Middle East.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #6 June 12, 2008 QuoteOne of the things that Americans in general seem to ignore the fact that our "crises" are often worldwide. It always annoys me when someone classifies an entire country off of what is seen in the popular media. Even thou you claim "in general" the overall tone of your post is that all Americans feel this way. Considering you are American and are making this post should have forced you to change your wording. Your statement should read "vocal Americans in general seem to ignore the fact....." Anyone with a bit of education and the ability to remove the nationalistic blinders in this country already knows what the global situation is. Too bad our White Administration isn't included in that. I really wish there was a way to avoid paying taxes if your candidate didn't get voted into office. It would force more people to vote and pay attention...and it would force the politicians to respect the views of the nation. Yes, it's a pipe dream and I understand the realistic downfall of such an option._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #7 June 12, 2008 Quote You're right. It's not American Corporate greed, it's the greed of the interlocking directorates of multinational corporations ...that, and a major US invasion into the Middle East. From my understanding, most of the oil markets are controlled outside of OPECs control. Things like the ICE Futures Brent Index dictate the price of crude. That is mostly controlled by American and British interests. See this: https://www.theice.com/oil_indices.jhtml_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cumplidor 0 #8 June 12, 2008 I'm sure most of you have heard of this woman, Vandana Shiva, but I just found out about her and find her take on todays situations very refreshing and make so much sense. from the page- QuoteThe globalized economic structure is simply incompatible with the basic physics of the planet and the principles of democratic governance, she says. And until we align the economic system with those of the ecological system, the problems will only get worse Be interested to hear what you all think- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #9 June 12, 2008 QuoteI'm sure most of you have heard of this woman, Vandana Shiva, but I just found out about her and find her take on todays situations very refreshing and make so much sense. from the page- QuoteThe globalized economic structure is simply incompatible with the basic physics of the planet and the principles of democratic governance, she says. And until we align the economic system with those of the ecological system, the problems will only get worse Be interested to hear what you all think- I'll tell you what I think after you explain what that means. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #10 June 12, 2008 QuoteI really wish there was a way to avoid paying taxes if your candidate didn't get voted into office. It would force more people to vote and pay attention...and it would force the politicians to respect the views of the nation. Yes, it's a pipe dream and I understand the realistic downfall of such an option. I don't understand why it would have any benefits. You pay taxes for essential government services, not to support your crony who then gives you kickbacks. And yes, it wouldn't work - lots of people who pick the Libertarian, Peace & Freedom, Green, Commie candidates to duck out of taxes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #11 June 12, 2008 >I really wish there was a way to avoid paying taxes if your candidate didn't get voted into office. Result - most americans would vote for a candidate who is so bad that he has no chance of winning. You really think that would be a good thing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #12 June 12, 2008 QuoteI don't understand why it would have any benefits. You pay taxes for essential government services, not to support your crony who then gives you kickbacks. Tell that to the lobbyists. Like I said, it's something I know that wouldn't work. Was just ranting._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites