akarunway 1 #1 June 5, 2008 http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080605/D91457M80.htmlI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #2 June 5, 2008 What's up with your sig?www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #3 June 5, 2008 Clearly a violation of constitutional rights. Obama will be all for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #4 June 5, 2008 Quote What's up with your sig? I guess he's a big Charlton Heston fan Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #5 June 5, 2008 Quotehttp://apnews.myway.com/article/20080605/D91457M80.html OCP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 June 6, 2008 QuoteWhat's up with your sig? It's them damn, dirty apes I'm sure.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #7 June 6, 2008 Quote What's up with your sig? My own version of a quote from THIS GUY.> "The atom bombs are piling up in the factories, the police are prowling through the cities, the lies are streaming from the loudspeakers, but the earth is still going round the sun." Get my drift? And to all. I love my guns.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #8 June 6, 2008 QuoteClearly a violation of constitutional rights. Obama will be all for it. Obama was a constitutional law professor, which suggests to me that he should have far more respect for the document than our current chief executard. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #9 June 6, 2008 Quotehttp://apnews.myway.com/article/20080605/D91457M80.html Clearly a violation of Constitutional rights. Bush will be in all favor.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 June 6, 2008 QuoteObama was a constitutional law professor, which suggests to me that he should have far more respect for the document than our current chief executard. At least he will have read it once or twice.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #11 June 6, 2008 Not so "clearly" a Constitutional violation. But I say it's bullshit. It looks like th eDC cops are being paid off by the local gang. They've got their hood, and another gang is apparently trying to move in on the turf. Thus, they can use the police to enforce gang boundaries. Genius! My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #12 June 6, 2008 Clearly, Washington, DC's gun ban has worked...not. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #13 June 6, 2008 Can you specify which 'right' per the Constitution is being violated? Thanks Lou Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #14 June 6, 2008 4th amendment. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #15 June 6, 2008 Quote 4th amendment. Ok so 4th ammendment is search and seizure. The Myway article says this: Quote Police will ask motorists to show proof that they live in the area. If they do not have proof, drivers must explain whether they have a reason to be in the neighborhood, such as a doctor's appointment or a church visit. I don't understand. It doesn't seem like they are 'seizing' anyone. I mean the neigborhood had 22 killings so far this year. This is a reasonable way to TRY to deter some of the crime. If it doesn't work then it doesn't work. My God you bleeding hearts make it sound like big brother police are standing in the roadway stopping every vehicle and throwing human beings in jail to rot for no reason. Ever seen a DUI checkpoint? They literally do the same thing. Close off a neigborhood and check for intoxicated motorists. Yea your all gonna say "but no crime was committed here!" Well, then you'll be fine after you show the officer your ID and he lets you on your way. Can't reply till monday so fire away .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #16 June 6, 2008 You have the implicit right of travel, and also to not be considered a suspect unless there is due causation that can be articulated by the law enforcement officer involved. (no hunches or fishing expeditions) As the Supreme Court notes in Saenz v Roe, 98-97 (1999), the Constitution does not contain the word "travel" in any context, let alone an explicit right to travel (except for members of Congress, who are guaranteed the right to travel to and from Congress). The presumed right to travel, however, is firmly established in U.S. law and precedent. In U.S. v Guest, 383 U.S. 745 (1966), the Court noted, "It is a right that has been firmly established and repeatedly recognized." In fact, in Shapiro v Thompson, 394 U.S. 618 (1969), Justice Stewart noted in a concurring opinion that "it is a right broadly assertable against private interference as well as governmental action. Like the right of association, ... it is a virtually unconditional personal right, guaranteed by the Constitution to us all." It is interesting to note that the Articles of Confederation had an explicit right to travel; it is now thought that the right is so fundamental that the Framers may have thought it unnecessary to include it in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #17 June 6, 2008 QuoteCan you specify which 'right' per the Constitution is being violated? 9th amendment?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawndiver 0 #18 June 6, 2008 QuoteOfficers will stop motorists traveling through the main thoroughfare of Trinidad - a neighborhood of mostly tidy two-story brick rowhouses that includes Gallaudet University and is near the National Arboretum. Good thing that those dumb criminals won't figure out to use the next street over on their way to whatever mayhem they are planning to cause!_________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #19 June 6, 2008 So OVI checkpoints are technically unconstitutional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #20 June 6, 2008 QuoteSo OVI checkpoints are technically unconstitutional.I would say so BUT this is the new NAZI America. None (few) of the sheep will stand up for their rights anymore. I usually raise hell at the checkpoints and have been quietly threatened by the pigs. "Wait til we catch you alone, We're gonna take you out in the orange groves and beat the fuck outta you" was the last thing I was told. (wispered in my ear by the jack booted pig as he told me to leave) Thank God the media was present.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 June 6, 2008 Funny how any cop that does something that you don't agree with is a "pig" or "Nazi", but the cop that let you out of a speeding ticket was "officer".Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #22 June 7, 2008 Obama was a constitutional law professor, which suggests to me that he only cares about money.... there i fixed it for you livendive.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #23 June 7, 2008 Quote Not so "clearly" a Constitutional violation. But I say it's bullshit. It looks like th eDC cops are being paid off by the local gang. They've got their hood, and another gang is apparently trying to move in on the turf. Thus, they can use the police to enforce gang boundaries. Genius! I hear the ACLU is looking for people just like youNothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #24 June 7, 2008 Quote Funny how any cop that does something that you don't agree with is a "pig" or "Nazi", but the cop that let you out of a speeding ticket was "officer". He didn't let me out of a speeding ticket. It cost me 1006 dollars for the stop in fines. And the other jack booted pigs tried to confiscate 20 grand I had in the glovebox. See the diff. or are you so blind? Edit to add: The OFFICER had "PROBABLE CAUSE" to stop me. The jackbooted pigs had a (I swear) what amounted to a NAZI checkpoint set up as I was on my way home from dinner. What is this country turning into? I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #25 June 7, 2008 Yes, I see the point - any police officer that does a job that inconveniences you or that you don't like is a Nazi or a "pig". Any officer that does a job that doesn't inconvenience you or that you like (as in getting a warning instead of the ticket you deserved) is "officer".Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
