Anti-Gun Nuts in the News, #2

[JohnRich 4]

News:

Transformers shirt gets jet ban

AIRPORT guards stopped a man boarding a plane — for wearing a Transformers T-shirt showing a cartoon gun.

Brad Jayakody, 30, was shocked when he was told to change his top if he wanted to catch his flight from Heathrow. "The guy told me to stop and said ‘you cannot get on the plane because there is a gun on your T-shirt’." The top has the Transformers film character Optimus Prime on the front.

Brad, of Bayswater, West London, added: "It’s a cartoon robot with a gun as an arm. What was I going to do, use the shirt to pretend I have a gun?

...last week a PhD student was stopped for wearing a gun-shaped charm necklace at an airport in Canada.

Source: The Sun

[Butters 0]

How do we know that the T-Shirt wouldn't transform into a gun?

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

[JohnRich 4]

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How do we know that the T-Shirt wouldn't transform into a gun?

Well yeah, if you believe like the liberals that everything coming out of Hollywood is real, then that logic kind of makes sense.

[quade 4]

John, I'm pretty certain that most people that work in Hollywood know the difference between real and computer graphics. It is, after all, their business to do so. To suggest otherwise is just silly.

Now, if you want to talk about the people in other parts of the planet, I can't speak to that.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[normiss 906]

Same as arresting kids that get caught with a steak knife in their lunch bag....right next to the meat they brought to eat.

We've become afraid of ourselves.

[chaoskitty 0]

Ohh one time in High School, I put a steak knife in a paper lunch sack to cut a piece of chicken. I cut my thumb. But I just put a band aid on it. I didn't sue the school system or anything.

[DJL 235]

So, what causes more death in the US, Guns or Cars? Just trying to figure out what I can and can't wear on my next trip to Talladega.

"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

[Lastchance 0]

When I was in High School I took my new hunting rifle to school to show my friends and my teachers and the principal. All hunters.. Granted this was the 70's and there were only 32 kids in the High School and 75 in the entire school K to 12 and this was a ranching community. Man how times change.

I may be getting old but I got to see all the cool bands.

[mnealtx 0]

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So, what causes more death in the US, Guns or Cars? Just trying to figure out what I can and can't wear on my next trip to Talladega.

Best stay at home - cars are roughly 10x more dangerous than those evil scary guns.

Accidents: 39.7 / 100k

Homicides (via firearm): 4.2 / 100k

NCHS data 2005.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[DrewEckhardt 0]

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So, what causes more death in the US, Guns or Cars? Just trying to figure out what I can and can't wear on my next trip to Talladega.

Provided that you're not going to commit suicide when you get here, you should worry about cars more. They kill 4X more Americans (40K vs. 10K). More like 8X if you have an above average chance of being white (while just 15% of the population, blacks make up half of our murder victims). Having an above average chance of avoiding murder-capitals like Washington DC with its strict gun-control laws will help a lot as will above average chances of not joining a street gang.

As a white person, your chances of being shot are lower in Seattle where law abiding citizens are entitled to concealed carry permits and handguns without waiting periods than across the border in Vancouver, Canada with similar size but much stricter gun laws.

Personally, I worry more about my neighbors' refridgerators than their gun cabinets because drunk drivers kill more people than guns and being a white non-criminal doesn't help my odds any with cars.

[kelpdiver 2]

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So, what causes more death in the US, Guns or Cars? Just trying to figure out what I can and can't wear on my next trip to Talladega.

Best stay at home - cars are roughly 10x more dangerous than those evil scary guns.

Accidents: 39.7 / 100k

Homicides (via firearm): 4.2 / 100k

NCHS data 2005.

10X is missing a lot of data. I'm not sure how it misrepresented it that badly - a rate comparison should overstate gun deaths, not understate. As reported in the next post, more like 4:1 if you exclude suicides or 2:1 if you down. (also, you didn't define the denominators well - is that people, or people with cars or guns?)

[mnealtx 0]

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So, what causes more death in the US, Guns or Cars? Just trying to figure out what I can and can't wear on my next trip to Talladega.

Best stay at home - cars are roughly 10x more dangerous than those evil scary guns.

Accidents: 39.7 / 100k

Homicides (via firearm): 4.2 / 100k

NCHS data 2005.

10X is missing a lot of data. I'm not sure how it misrepresented it that badly - a rate comparison should overstate gun deaths, not understate. As reported in the next post, more like 4:1 if you exclude suicides or 2:1 if you down. (also, you didn't define the denominators well - is that people, or people with cars or guns?)

Edit to add - I found another reference to the NCHS data at the CDC. Rates for things like this are death rates per 100k of the population....just like crime stats.

Motor vehicle accidents are 15.3/100k - my apologies. The number I gave prior was all transportation-related accidents.

Homicide by firearm remains at 4.2/100k.

Ratio drops from 10x to 3x more dangerous.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[rehmwa 2]

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So, what causes more death in the US, Guns or Cars? Just trying to figure out what I can and can't wear on my next trip to Talladega.

I think you should worry about pictures of cars.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[Butters 0]

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So, what causes more death in the US, Guns or Cars? Just trying to figure out what I can and can't wear on my next trip to Talladega.

You do realize that Optimus Prime is a gun and a car!

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch