Rupert Murdoch claims Obama to win in landslide

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At that conference last night he was asked about politics. He wouldn't say directly who he supported but said that Obama is a Rock Star, the Dems will win in a landslide, McCain has many problems and doesn't understand the economy, Obama's education platform is amazing, he forced the NY Post to endorse Obama in the Primary, he believes FoxNews really is balanced, he thinks that the politicians have destroyed trust in the country and with 80% of the US lacking trust in them, we really are in a recession, .....I think that was the majority of it.

http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSN2936112720080529?sp=true

You can find some of his video here:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hilary-rosen/rupert-murdoch-says-obama_b_104018.html

I have no idea what his angle is, but this really surprised me.

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I have no idea what his angle is, but this really surprised me.

Playing both sides of the fence. He knows that if the Republicans lose control of The White House he's going to have to play ball with a different guy and is laying the groundwork.

It's just good business to sway with the winds of change.

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So in another couple of years, would you expect to see righties accusing Fox News of being unfair and unbalanced?

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Its also a good way to scare the beejeebies out of the right wing base that sees Obama as a huge threat to the status quo and to ensure as many of THE BASE show up at the polls as he can possibly muster.

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So in another couple of years, would you expect to see righties accusing Fox News of being unfair and unbalanced?

No. I would assume Fox News will continue to operate in the exact same manner they normally do in preparation for 2012. Meanwhile the boss tries to keep the US part of his media empire intact and not torn apart by the new Administration. As I recall, he's pushing several regulations about percentage of media ownership in several markets.

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I would assume Fox News will continue to operate in the exact same manner they normally do in preparation for 2012.

Uh oh. Is he into that Mayan-calendar thing too?

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So in another couple of years, would you expect to see righties accusing Fox News of being unfair and unbalanced?

I wouldn't. FOX plays to right wing politics and sex, not the sitting President. It's quite lucrative apparently.

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So in another couple of years, would you expect to see righties accusing Fox News of being unfair and unbalanced?

I wouldn't. FOX plays to right wing politics and sex, not the sitting President. It's quite lucrative apparently.

And all the rest play to left wing politics and sex...what's your point?

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So in another couple of years, would you expect to see righties accusing Fox News of being unfair and unbalanced?

I wouldn't. FOX plays to right wing politics and sex, not the sitting President. It's quite lucrative apparently.

And all the rest play to left wing politics and sex...what's your point?

Sadly, the rest echo FOX's lead these days. It sells. I wish I could remember where that youtube video was that illustrated it so well. Then again, you couldn't watch it if I could

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So in another couple of years, would you expect to see righties accusing Fox News of being unfair and unbalanced?

I wouldn't. FOX plays to right wing politics and sex, not the sitting President. It's quite lucrative apparently.

And all the rest play to left wing politics and sex...what's your point?

Sadly, the rest echo FOX's lead these days. It sells. I wish I could remember where that youtube video was that illustrated it so well. Then again, you couldn't watch it if I could

That's friggin hilarious....I've gotta find that report again showing how Fox is actually LEFT of center...it just seems right because the rest of the news orgs are so MUCH further left.

This site has some good info on bias in the media.

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This site has some good info on bias in the media.

You're serious? Founded by, and this is from the site you posted,
"L. Brent Bozell III, 51, is one of the most outspoken and effective national leaders in the conservative movement today."

Check out www.fair.org in your spare time. They're left but at least they're honest. The corporate media is inept at good, solid reporting. But they are really good at making money for themselves, which is incidentally, their main objective.

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DUDE.. you are not serious right????

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That's friggin hilarious....I've gotta find that report again showing how Fox is actually LEFT of center...it just seems right because the rest of the news orgs are so MUCH further left.

This site has some good info on bias in the media.

FAUX is to the White House and the RNC.... as PRAVDA and TASS was the the Politburo and the Kremlin...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Research_Center


Now there is an objective source


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What, like the major media is going to do a report about how liberal they are? Get real.

Here's something from a study at UCLA... that liberal enough to satisfy you?

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664.aspx

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Here's something from a study at UCLA... that liberal enough to satisfy you?

I see your mdeia bias study and raise the spectre of bias and flawed methodology in it...

http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/blog/2005/12/the_problems_wi.html

The problems with the Groseclose/Milyo study of media bias
UCLA political scientist Tim Groseclose and Missouri economist Jeff Milyo have published a study (PDF) alleging liberal media bias that is receiving a lot of attention, including a link on Drudge. But you should be wary of trusting its conclusions for reasons that I tried to explain to Groseclose after he presented the paper at Duke in fall 2003.

First, here's a summary of the study's methodology from the UCLA press release:

Groseclose and Milyo based their research on a standard gauge of a lawmaker's support for liberal causes. Americans for Democratic Action (ADA) tracks the percentage of times that each lawmaker votes on the liberal side of an issue. Based on these votes, the ADA assigns a numerical score to each lawmaker, where "100" is the most liberal and "0" is the most conservative. After adjustments to compensate for disproportionate representation that the Senate gives to low-population states and the lack of representation for the District of Columbia, the average ADA score in Congress (50.1) was assumed to represent the political position of the average U.S. voter.

Groseclose and Milyo then directed 21 research assistants -- most of them college students -- to scour U.S. media coverage of the past 10 years. They tallied the number of times each media outlet referred to think tanks and policy groups, such as the left-leaning NAACP or the right-leaning Heritage Foundation.

Next, they did the same exercise with speeches of U.S. lawmakers. If a media outlet displayed a citation pattern similar to that of a lawmaker, then Groseclose and Milyo's method assigned both a similar ADA score.

In short, the underlying assumption is that, if the press is unbiased, then media outlets will cite think tanks in news reporting in a fashion that is "balanced" with respect to the scores assigned to the groups based on Congressional citations. Any deviation from the mean ADA score of Congress is defined as "bias." But is that a fair assumption?

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They're using the ADA score for comparative ranking - aren't you the one that is always going on about how Fox is biased 'right' (i.e., NOT using liberal [high ADA ranked] sources)?

You can't have it both ways, Jeanne.

Find another study that refutes it, if you don't agree with it. You've got a pretty high hurdle to cross, given quotes FROM MEDIA SOURCES admitting they're biased toward liberals.

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This site has some good info on bias in the media.

You're serious? Founded by, and this is from the site you posted,
"L. Brent Bozell III, 51, is one of the most outspoken and effective national leaders in the conservative movement today."

Check out www.fair.org in your spare time. They're left but at least they're honest. The corporate media is inept at good, solid reporting. But they are really good at making money for themselves, which is incidentally, their main objective.

How do you know that mediaresearch ISN'T honest? I never stated they were middle of the road, only that they have good information on how the mass media is slanted left.

In regards to fair.org... I've visited it, and mediamatters, as well. The 'staffs' of both are equally as liberal as Bozell is conservative.

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Another major flaw in the methodology is the reliance on the mean from a Republican controlled Congress to determine "center" between liberal and conservative. By doing that, one would expect all centrist media to be rated left of center.

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Another major flaw in the methodology is the reliance on the mean from a Republican controlled Congress to determine "center" between liberal and conservative. By doing that, one would expect all centrist media to be rated left of center.

Hardly, since they're using a rating from a liberal advocacy group compared to both Democratic and Republican congresscritters to make the comparison.

The Pew report on media bias shows the exact same thing, as do the quotes from several media sources admitting their liberal bias that are presented on the mediaresearch site.

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Another major flaw in the methodology is the reliance on the mean from a Republican controlled Congress to determine "center" between liberal and conservative. By doing that, one would expect all centrist media to be rated left of center.

Hardly, since they're using a rating from a liberal advocacy group to make the comparison.

If that further introduces bias, then it would make the results even more unreliable.

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However, if you're that worried about it, look up the Pew report on media bias. It shows the same bias.

I might do that, too. Still, I'd like to read the actual UCLA study, not about the study. The PDF link in Amazon's link results in a 404 error, and your link didn't provide a link.

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… as do the quotes from several media sources admitting their liberal bias that are presented on the mediaresearch site.

You're kidding, right? 39 quotes since 1989, not all of which claim a liberally biased media, and you think that is evidence?

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http://mason.gmu.edu/~atabarro/MediaBias.doc

^^ link to Groseclose / Milyo study

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=825

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You're kidding, right? 39 quotes since 1989, not all of which claim a liberally biased media, and you think that is evidence?

Obviously, NO number of quotes from media sources will suffice, so I'll drop the subject. Funny how the same burden of proof doesn't seem to be necessary in reverse.

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http://mason.gmu.edu/~atabarro/MediaBias.doc

^^ link to Groseclose / Milyo study

http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=825

^^ link to Pew report

Thanks for the links. So far I've only read the Pew Report, which does not indicate a liberal bias in media stories.

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You're kidding, right? 39 quotes since 1989, not all of which claim a liberally biased media, and you think that is evidence?

Obviously, NO number of quotes from media sources will suffice, so I'll drop the subject. Funny how the same burden of proof doesn't seem to be necessary in reverse.

Do you really believe that quotes from the media, not all of which claim a liberal bias in the media, some sources being quoted multiple times, at a rate of approximately two quotes per year, is evidence of anything?

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If you don't see where it speaks of the newrooms overwhelmingly voting and donating Democrat and think that it doesn't affect their reporting (ever hear of the 'boiling frog' principle?), and admissions from media personalities ADMITTING their bias doesn't convince you, then nothing short of a Congressional finding WILL convince you.

(re: bias testimony - why is it that you have no problem with McLellan's admissions about Bush and so much with media personalitie's admissions about their own bias? Perhaps a little bias of your own?)

This page references 30 years of reports showing that newsrooms have gotten more and more liberal. Look at the comparisons between the views of the newsrooms and the views of the general public.

Look at the reporting by the mainstream media in regards to the war, compared to independent embeds like Michael Yon and tell me that the media isn't biased.

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If you don't see where it speaks of the newrooms overwhelmingly voting and donating Democrat and think that it doesn't affect their reporting …

If they practice their trade in a professional manner, then that personal would cause them to take extra care to not add a liberal spin. In fact, reading the report suggests that's exactly what often happens. Why do you think someone cannot set aside their personal ideology in order to reach an unbiased decision?

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(ever hear of the 'boiling frog' principle?), and admissions from media personalities ADMITTING their bias doesn't convince you, then nothing short of a Congressional finding WILL convince you.

I would speculate that in the past 20 years, there have been more than 39 quotes from journalists denying personal bias in their professional writing.

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(re: bias testimony - why is it that you have no problem with McLellan's admissions about Bush and so much with media personalitie's admissions about their own bias? Perhaps a little bias of your own?)

McClellan's book doesn't offer much of anything in terms of new information. What it does offer is a credible insider confirming the facts already reported to us by the, as you would call it, "liberal media."

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This page references 30 years of reports showing that newsrooms have gotten more and more liberal. Look at the comparisons between the views of the newsrooms and the views of the general public.

You keep confusing liberal leaning journalists with liberal leaning journalism. They are not the same thing. Do you think a US soldier is unable to perform his duties because he is a Democrat? Why would a journalist be any different?

The most logical hypothesis to explain why journalists tend to be more liberal than the public at large is because they are better informed than the public at large.

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Look at the reporting by the mainstream media in regards to the war, compared to independent embeds like Michael Yon and tell me that the media isn't biased.

There is no such thing as an unbiased embedded reporter in combat. If that's your standard for objective reporting, then your objectivity meter is in serious need of re-calibration. How does an embedded reporter offer an objective view of all sides of an issue? They can't; they're embedded with a team with their very own unique perspective. That single perspective biases their view. It's unavoidable.

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If you don't see where it speaks of the newrooms overwhelmingly voting and donating Democrat and think that it doesn't affect their reporting (ever hear of the 'boiling frog' principle?), and admissions from media personalities ADMITTING their bias doesn't convince you, then nothing short of a Congressional finding WILL convince you.

(re: bias testimony - why is it that you have no problem with McLellan's admissions about Bush and so much with media personalitie's admissions about their own bias? Perhaps a little bias of your own?)

This page references 30 years of reports showing that newsrooms have gotten more and more liberal. Look at the comparisons between the views of the newsrooms and the views of the general public.

Look at the reporting by the mainstream media in regards to the war, compared to independent embeds like Michael Yon and tell me that the media isn't biased.

It's a free country. If you believe there's bias, just start your own newspaper or broadcast outlet and bias it any way you choose.

It is the way it is because that's the way the market drives it.

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