mnealtx 0 #26 June 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteA better comparison would be the dmv worker receiving a bonus for handling the most license renewals for the quarter - improving how he/she does the job. That's an excellent comparison, and I think it would be fine. If the bonus was administered by the STATE, not some private entity. I have no problem with someone donating money to the state to use as performance bonuses. It is the fact that a private entity decides who gets them based on their own metrics that is the problem. And even though strings may not be attached now, it's not hard to image them getting attached later. I don't necessarily disagree - unfortunately, the way the article is written is a bit confusing. From what information I can readily find, the foundation provides the funds to the school districts to to create an AP science / math program. It provides training for the teachers involved. I can't find any information about the foundation 'paying teachers directly' as is alluded to in the original article linked. I *WAS* incorrect and you correct in your assumption - the foundation *IS* wanting them to teach a certain way, by developing (or improving existing) advanced placement math and science courses. OH, THE HORROR!!! *sorry, but I can't get too incensed about something that will help correct a problem that has been bitched about for decades, i.e., America's "education gap" in regards to the rest of the world.*Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #27 June 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuote *sorry, but I can't get too incensed about something that will help correct a problem that has been bitched about for decades, i.e., America's "education gap" in regards to the rest of the world.* you shoul;d be because it WONT correct the problem. the "bonus" will not be adminsitered to EVERY SINLGE TEACHER" wh does well. and by what standard "Well" is measured. favouring a VERY SMALL number of teachers does nothing to improve the overall status of education.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #28 June 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote *sorry, but I can't get too incensed about something that will help correct a problem that has been bitched about for decades, i.e., America's "education gap" in regards to the rest of the world.* you shoul;d be because it WONT correct the problem. the "bonus" will not be adminsitered to EVERY SINLGE TEACHER" wh does well. and by what standard "Well" is measured. favouring a VERY SMALL number of teachers does nothing to improve the overall status of education. Wrong - perhaps you should have done some research before opening your mouth. This program has been in effect for a few years now and has shown measurable improvements in the districts that have adopted it. See attachments for a few examples.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #29 June 5, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote *sorry, but I can't get too incensed about something that will help correct a problem that has been bitched about for decades, i.e., America's "education gap" in regards to the rest of the world.* you shoul;d be because it WONT correct the problem. the "bonus" will not be adminsitered to EVERY SINLGE TEACHER" wh does well. and by what standard "Well" is measured. favouring a VERY SMALL number of teachers does nothing to improve the overall status of education. Wrong - perhaps you should have done some research before opening your mouth. This program has been in effect for a few years now and has shown measurable improvements in the districts that have adopted it. See attachments for a few examples. you PSMing today mike, (no mouth was opened btw, typing does not require it ). If the cited examples were so sucesfull why then is your state of education ACROSS THE BOARD so poor. Favouring enclaves will not help the over all situation, it will only help to create a greater riftYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #30 June 5, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote *sorry, but I can't get too incensed about something that will help correct a problem that has been bitched about for decades, i.e., America's "education gap" in regards to the rest of the world.* you shoul;d be because it WONT correct the problem. the "bonus" will not be adminsitered to EVERY SINLGE TEACHER" wh does well. and by what standard "Well" is measured. favouring a VERY SMALL number of teachers does nothing to improve the overall status of education. Wrong - perhaps you should have done some research before opening your mouth. This program has been in effect for a few years now and has shown measurable improvements in the districts that have adopted it. See attachments for a few examples. you PSMing today mike, (no mouth was opened btw, typing does not require it ). If the cited examples were so sucesfull why then is your state of education ACROSS THE BOARD so poor. Favouring enclaves will not help the over all situation, it will only help to create a greater rift You have to start somewhere, now don't you? More and more districs and states are signing up for the program - I'd love to see it spread nationwide. I don't have any heartache with a program that helps create better trained, better prepared teachers that are actually QUALIFIED in the subject they're teaching. I've got no problem with a program that REWARDS those teachers for doing well. This is no different than teachers getting bonuses from their unions for continuing education courses - it's just a different pot of money and the WA union shot themselves in the foot.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nerdgirl 0 #31 June 5, 2008 QuoteThis program has been in effect for a few years now and has shown measurable improvements in the districts that have adopted it. See attachments for a few examples. Thanks for the attachments. Those are very impressive! What is the DISD (the public school district in Dallas, yes?) doing specifically? It looks like threre's strong citizen support for public education in Dallas, e.g., the voters just approved a $1.35B bond issue in May. VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #32 June 5, 2008 QuoteWhat is the DISD (the public school district in Dallas, yes?) doing specifically? That, I don't know - but I sure like the results! QuoteIt looks like threre's strong citizen support for public education in Dallas, e.g., the voters just approved a $1.35B bond issue in May. VR/Marg Yeah - even us 'redneck bigot gun nuts' (to paraphrase some recent comments) get it right sometimes.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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mnealtx 0 #28 June 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote *sorry, but I can't get too incensed about something that will help correct a problem that has been bitched about for decades, i.e., America's "education gap" in regards to the rest of the world.* you shoul;d be because it WONT correct the problem. the "bonus" will not be adminsitered to EVERY SINLGE TEACHER" wh does well. and by what standard "Well" is measured. favouring a VERY SMALL number of teachers does nothing to improve the overall status of education. Wrong - perhaps you should have done some research before opening your mouth. This program has been in effect for a few years now and has shown measurable improvements in the districts that have adopted it. See attachments for a few examples.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #29 June 5, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote *sorry, but I can't get too incensed about something that will help correct a problem that has been bitched about for decades, i.e., America's "education gap" in regards to the rest of the world.* you shoul;d be because it WONT correct the problem. the "bonus" will not be adminsitered to EVERY SINLGE TEACHER" wh does well. and by what standard "Well" is measured. favouring a VERY SMALL number of teachers does nothing to improve the overall status of education. Wrong - perhaps you should have done some research before opening your mouth. This program has been in effect for a few years now and has shown measurable improvements in the districts that have adopted it. See attachments for a few examples. you PSMing today mike, (no mouth was opened btw, typing does not require it ). If the cited examples were so sucesfull why then is your state of education ACROSS THE BOARD so poor. Favouring enclaves will not help the over all situation, it will only help to create a greater riftYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #30 June 5, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote *sorry, but I can't get too incensed about something that will help correct a problem that has been bitched about for decades, i.e., America's "education gap" in regards to the rest of the world.* you shoul;d be because it WONT correct the problem. the "bonus" will not be adminsitered to EVERY SINLGE TEACHER" wh does well. and by what standard "Well" is measured. favouring a VERY SMALL number of teachers does nothing to improve the overall status of education. Wrong - perhaps you should have done some research before opening your mouth. This program has been in effect for a few years now and has shown measurable improvements in the districts that have adopted it. See attachments for a few examples. you PSMing today mike, (no mouth was opened btw, typing does not require it ). If the cited examples were so sucesfull why then is your state of education ACROSS THE BOARD so poor. Favouring enclaves will not help the over all situation, it will only help to create a greater rift You have to start somewhere, now don't you? More and more districs and states are signing up for the program - I'd love to see it spread nationwide. I don't have any heartache with a program that helps create better trained, better prepared teachers that are actually QUALIFIED in the subject they're teaching. I've got no problem with a program that REWARDS those teachers for doing well. This is no different than teachers getting bonuses from their unions for continuing education courses - it's just a different pot of money and the WA union shot themselves in the foot.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nerdgirl 0 #31 June 5, 2008 QuoteThis program has been in effect for a few years now and has shown measurable improvements in the districts that have adopted it. See attachments for a few examples. Thanks for the attachments. Those are very impressive! What is the DISD (the public school district in Dallas, yes?) doing specifically? It looks like threre's strong citizen support for public education in Dallas, e.g., the voters just approved a $1.35B bond issue in May. VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #32 June 5, 2008 QuoteWhat is the DISD (the public school district in Dallas, yes?) doing specifically? That, I don't know - but I sure like the results! QuoteIt looks like threre's strong citizen support for public education in Dallas, e.g., the voters just approved a $1.35B bond issue in May. VR/Marg Yeah - even us 'redneck bigot gun nuts' (to paraphrase some recent comments) get it right sometimes.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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Squeak 17 #29 June 5, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote *sorry, but I can't get too incensed about something that will help correct a problem that has been bitched about for decades, i.e., America's "education gap" in regards to the rest of the world.* you shoul;d be because it WONT correct the problem. the "bonus" will not be adminsitered to EVERY SINLGE TEACHER" wh does well. and by what standard "Well" is measured. favouring a VERY SMALL number of teachers does nothing to improve the overall status of education. Wrong - perhaps you should have done some research before opening your mouth. This program has been in effect for a few years now and has shown measurable improvements in the districts that have adopted it. See attachments for a few examples. you PSMing today mike, (no mouth was opened btw, typing does not require it ). If the cited examples were so sucesfull why then is your state of education ACROSS THE BOARD so poor. Favouring enclaves will not help the over all situation, it will only help to create a greater riftYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #30 June 5, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote *sorry, but I can't get too incensed about something that will help correct a problem that has been bitched about for decades, i.e., America's "education gap" in regards to the rest of the world.* you shoul;d be because it WONT correct the problem. the "bonus" will not be adminsitered to EVERY SINLGE TEACHER" wh does well. and by what standard "Well" is measured. favouring a VERY SMALL number of teachers does nothing to improve the overall status of education. Wrong - perhaps you should have done some research before opening your mouth. This program has been in effect for a few years now and has shown measurable improvements in the districts that have adopted it. See attachments for a few examples. you PSMing today mike, (no mouth was opened btw, typing does not require it ). If the cited examples were so sucesfull why then is your state of education ACROSS THE BOARD so poor. Favouring enclaves will not help the over all situation, it will only help to create a greater rift You have to start somewhere, now don't you? More and more districs and states are signing up for the program - I'd love to see it spread nationwide. I don't have any heartache with a program that helps create better trained, better prepared teachers that are actually QUALIFIED in the subject they're teaching. I've got no problem with a program that REWARDS those teachers for doing well. This is no different than teachers getting bonuses from their unions for continuing education courses - it's just a different pot of money and the WA union shot themselves in the foot.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #31 June 5, 2008 QuoteThis program has been in effect for a few years now and has shown measurable improvements in the districts that have adopted it. See attachments for a few examples. Thanks for the attachments. Those are very impressive! What is the DISD (the public school district in Dallas, yes?) doing specifically? It looks like threre's strong citizen support for public education in Dallas, e.g., the voters just approved a $1.35B bond issue in May. VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #32 June 5, 2008 QuoteWhat is the DISD (the public school district in Dallas, yes?) doing specifically? That, I don't know - but I sure like the results! QuoteIt looks like threre's strong citizen support for public education in Dallas, e.g., the voters just approved a $1.35B bond issue in May. VR/Marg Yeah - even us 'redneck bigot gun nuts' (to paraphrase some recent comments) get it right sometimes.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
