happythoughts 0 #1 May 19, 2008 news Around here, they started with road blocks to check for DUIs. Then, they'd just sit by the entrance ramp out of the bar district. Houston may have a problem. They arrested 130 people for public intoxication... in a bar. "Hi, are you drunk?" "Why, yes. Yes I am." Probably all the arrests will be thrown out, but that wasn't the point. They arrest everyone, get the fingerprints and DNA. The arrests will be thrown out, but not the catalog of fingerprints and DNA. Some fingerprint-matching software will be whizzing today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #2 May 19, 2008 After reading the article I understand the need for the raid. But the public intoxication part. Seems odd to me. I wonder what the local laws are for that. I know that is one arrest that only tends to happen around here when people get out of control. In Chicago it often gets overlooked except during an election year. You know that every 3 years at the St Patrick Day Parade you will see arrests for holding beers on the sidewalk but not during the in between years. As a total derail to the original topic: http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/38967-operation-sudden-fall_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #3 May 19, 2008 Hey.. if you are not doing anything wrong, what do you possibly have to fear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #4 May 19, 2008 How can the cops arrest someone on private property and then call it public intoxication? www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #5 May 19, 2008 > How can the cops arrest someone on private property and then call it public intoxication? Easy. They just haul you outside and - bam! - you're in public. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #6 May 19, 2008 Quote > How can the cops arrest someone on private property and then call it public intoxication? Easy. They just haul you outside and - bam! - you're in public. Sadly there is much truth to that. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #7 May 20, 2008 Quote How can the cops arrest someone on private property and then call it public intoxication? There is a third category of property often cited by law: Private property open to the public. In general, privately-owned property to which any member of the public is allowed, unless explicitly prohibited by the owner. As an example, see 5-3-5 (c) here: http://www.colocode.com/boulder2/chapter5-3.htm"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #8 May 20, 2008 Quote > How can the cops arrest someone on private property and then call it public intoxication? Easy. They just haul you outside and - bam! - you're in public. Was arrested in my apt. last year by Colton,Ca. cops for just that. Wasn't public drunk til they drug me outside. Fuckin nazi pigs. Played my own lawyer and beat it tho at much time and trouble to me. Be good little sheep you guys.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 898 #9 May 20, 2008 Quote Some fingerprint-matching software will be whizzing today. and incorrectly matching people to terrorist bombings when they're on the wrong side of the planet.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #10 May 20, 2008 Quote Quote > How can the cops arrest someone on private property and then call it public intoxication? Easy. They just haul you outside and - bam! - you're in public. Was arrested in my apt. last year by Colton,Ca. cops for just that. Wasn't public drunk til they drug me outside. Fuckin nazi pigs. Played my own lawyer and beat it tho at much time and trouble to me. Be good little sheep you guys. Two interesting terms. "De jure" roughly means "by law" or legal. "De facto" means "reality". If you are not doing anything illegal, and are not doing anything that you can be fined for, you can still be arrested and charged. To face the charges, you hire a lawyer for $1000 to talk to you and miss some work to appear in court and make lawyer appointments (depositions, initial meetings). Once the case gets to court, it gets tossed. De Jure - legally, you were innocent. No sentence or fine. De Facto - you paid $1000 and lost $500 in wages. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #11 May 20, 2008 Quote After reading the article I understand the need for the raid. But the public intoxication part. Seems odd to me. That's my point. Ok, there was somebody selling drugs in the bar. There is always somebody in every bar selling drugs. Usually that one bartender who is getting laid every night and drives the too-expensive car. They detained 500 people and arrested 10 for drugs. So, once again, what was the point of arresting the other 130 for being drunk in a bar? I actually participated in one of those sweeps at the age of 22. The police showed up, closed the doors. You had to show an ID to leave. If your name was on the list, you got put in the bus. If not, you got to leave. So, this is something different. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
