jcd11235 0 #26 May 19, 2008 QuoteObama is a eletists racist. He has proven that to me. Period I'm trying to recognize any consistency between your standard of proof regarding Obama being racist versus your standard of proof regarding anthropogenic global warming. So far, I'm finding no consistency at all.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #27 May 19, 2008 QuoteObama is a eletists racist. He has proven that to me. Period Here I was thinking it was NEWSMAX and Lush Rimjob who had "proved" that to you... Silly me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #28 May 19, 2008 Quote Ah the bait and switch. I am speaking of Obama. You want to speak about McCain start a new thread. Ahh, the old "Henry Hyde" defense Quote Obama is a eletists racist. He has proven that to me. Period And I'm willing to bet that I'm not the only person in this thread who has asked or will ask you to explain "how"? I mean it's not like he walked around a bunch of displaced, dying and starving people and said something like "so many of the people in the arenas here, you know, were underprivileged anyway. This is working very well for them". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymiles 3 #29 May 19, 2008 Quote I'm trying to recognize any consistency between your standard of proof regarding Obama being racist versus your standard of proof regarding anthropogenic global warming. So far, I'm finding no consistency at all. In some circles, I guess, wishful thinking is a good as proof. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #30 May 19, 2008 Quote In some circles, I guess, wishful thinking is a good as proof. Today "proof" seems to be considered to be directly proportional to decibel level and over speak. Funny though how a question like "why" or "how" can disrupt a talking point regurgithon. Just ask Kevin James Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,173 #31 May 19, 2008 >I'm trying to recognize any consistency between your standard of >proof regarding Obama being racist versus your standard of proof >regarding anthropogenic global warming. I'd have to argue that he is extremely consistent. He has always hewn closely to conservative commentator's views of things. Indeed, once Rush L uses a turn of phrase on a given subject (i.e. "Obama has thrown his white grandmother under the bus") one can be assured that RushMC will soon be using it as well. And there's nothing wrong with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #32 May 19, 2008 QuoteI mean it's not like he walked around a bunch of displaced, dying and starving people and said something like "so many of the people in the arenas here, you know, were underprivileged anyway. This is working very well for them". Displaced - agreed Dying/starving - got any proof of that? Stupid comment? Absolutely - about as stupid as "So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #33 May 19, 2008 QuoteI'd have to argue that he is extremely consistent. He has always hewn closely to conservative commentator's views of things. Indeed, once Rush L uses a turn of phrase on a given subject (i.e. "Obama has thrown his white grandmother under the bus") one can be assured that RushMC will soon be using it as well. And there's nothing wrong with that. I agree his conclusions tend to be consistently conservative and usually partisan, but I'm inclined to believe that is an indication of the inconsistent standard of proof of the commentators from which he obtains many of his talking points.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #34 May 20, 2008 QuoteObama facing strong racism From which half of him? His white half or his black half? Maybe his white half hates his black half or vice versa. Poor Obama, such an identity crises. Good thing he has that big strong strapping wife to whip him into shape. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #35 May 20, 2008 Quote Did you check the veracity of these claims before posting? No, I didn't, for which I owe an apology. Even in this bastion of journalistic accuracy.But - it was sent to me by a typical white person. I don't believe Obama is a racist. Racist is usually defined as one who believes their race is superior to all or another race. Obama is an opportunist, and he uses racial issues in what ever way suits the political moment. I think he is a typical hypocritical politician, but one with a black militant agenda that will only divide the country, not unite it. Here are some links where he speaks his own Marxist / hypocritical words. These reasons, and others, are why I don't want him to be president. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioYrNYsNUfY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpSDBu35K-8The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,173 #36 May 20, 2008 >From which half of him? His white half or his black half? Maybe his >white half hates his black half or vice versa. I've known you for a while on here, and usually you're above such comments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #37 May 20, 2008 QuoteQuoteObama is a eletists racist. He has proven that to me. Period I'm trying to recognize any consistency between your standard of proof regarding Obama being racist versus your standard of proof regarding anthropogenic global warming. So far, I'm finding no consistency at all. So?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #38 May 20, 2008 Quote >I'm trying to recognize any consistency between your standard of >proof regarding Obama being racist versus your standard of proof >regarding anthropogenic global warming. I'd have to argue that he is extremely consistent. He has always hewn closely to conservative commentator's views of things. Indeed, once Rush L uses a turn of phrase on a given subject (i.e. "Obama has thrown his white grandmother under the bus") one can be assured that RushMC will soon be using it as well. And there's nothing wrong with that. Nice demonstration of the eletist comment that anybody not agreeing with them gets their thoughts and beliefs from someone other than themselves. Liberal eletism at its dam(n) finest. Any other snide snarky hidden PA's coming anytime soon? Feeling proud today now arent we"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #39 May 20, 2008 QuoteQuoteI'd have to argue that he is extremely consistent. He has always hewn closely to conservative commentator's views of things. Indeed, once Rush L uses a turn of phrase on a given subject (i.e. "Obama has thrown his white grandmother under the bus") one can be assured that RushMC will soon be using it as well. And there's nothing wrong with that. I agree his conclusions tend to be consistently conservative and usually partisan, but I'm inclined to believe that is an indication of the inconsistent standard of proof of the commentators from which he obtains many of his talking points. Joining billvon with underhanded PA's too? A great demonstration indeed."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #40 May 20, 2008 QuoteObama is a eletists racist. He has proven that to me. Period I would've disagreed with you until the "typical white person" comment. Very telling -- reveals his ingrained racist attitude, not to mention the blatant double standard that exists amongst the far left. If McCain ever used the phrase "typical black person" in ANY context, he'd be toast instantly. But it's overlooked when Obama does it. Why is that? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #41 May 20, 2008 QuoteObama is an opportunist, and he uses racial issues in what ever way suits the political moment. And so that makes him like almost every human being I've ever met? Most people take opportunities as they come and turn them into personal benefit. They're all opportunists. Hillary says something stupid, Obama and McCain sieze on it. Romney did something stupid, the opposition siezed on it. That's politics. the funny thing is, I'm not an Obama supporter (yet). Still trying to make a decision between McCain and Obama, and fortunately, I've got a few months in which to do it. But...if Obama scares the elite racists found in this thread...he's probably my kind of guy. McCain has me worried with his somewhat obvious choice of running mate too. If that occurs, it won't be racist, it'll be bigotry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,173 #42 May 20, 2008 >Nice demonstration of the eletist comment that anybody not agreeing with >them gets their thoughts and beliefs from someone other than >themselves. Dude, EVERYONE gets thoughts from other people and other sources. You readily state that other people do this. Otherwise none of us would know a thing. You simply get many of yours from conservative commentators, specifically one who bears a striking similarity to your username. And like I said there is nothing wrong with that. RushMC: "You had better take a closer look at what actully has happened here. Demunderground.com or the lefty web sites are not giving you a clear pictrure." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #43 May 20, 2008 QuoteQuoteObama is an opportunist, and he uses racial issues in what ever way suits the political moment. And so that makes him like almost every human being I've ever met? Most people take opportunities as they come and turn them into personal benefit. They're all opportunists. Hillary says something stupid, Obama and McCain sieze on it. Romney did something stupid, the opposition siezed on it. That's politics. the funny thing is, I'm not an Obama supporter (yet). Still trying to make a decision between McCain and Obama, and fortunately, I've got a few months in which to do it. But...if Obama scares the elite racists found in this thread...he's probably my kind of guy. McCain has me worried with his somewhat obvious choice of running mate too. If that occurs, it won't be racist, it'll be bigotry. Whom do you consider elite racist on this thread? This could be very telling should you choose to answer."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #44 May 20, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteI'd have to argue that he is extremely consistent. He has always hewn closely to conservative commentator's views of things. Indeed, once Rush L uses a turn of phrase on a given subject (i.e. "Obama has thrown his white grandmother under the bus") one can be assured that RushMC will soon be using it as well. And there's nothing wrong with that. I agree his conclusions tend to be consistently conservative and usually partisan, but I'm inclined to believe that is an indication of the inconsistent standard of proof of the commentators from which he obtains many of his talking points. Joining billvon with underhanded PA's too? A great demonstration indeed. Apparently you don't understand what a personal attack is (which has long been apparent from the number of times you cry "wolf" against billvon and Kallend).Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #45 May 20, 2008 Quote >Nice demonstration of the eletist comment that anybody not agreeing with >them gets their thoughts and beliefs from someone other than >themselves. Dude, EVERYONE gets thoughts from other people and other sources. You readily state that other people do this. Otherwise none of us would know a thing. You simply get many of yours from conservative commentators, specifically one who bears a striking similarity to your username. And like I said there is nothing wrong with that. RushMC: "You had better take a closer look at what actully has happened here. Demunderground.com or the lefty web sites are not giving you a clear pictrure." Exactly but, I can not beleieve you do not see the difference between what you said and my post. I went after a source, you on the other hand went after someones intelect. Yes words, phases and comments do come from other places, BUT I CAN AND DO MAKE UP MY OWN MIND, but I have not said you only think what the likes of an Al Franken or someone similar say"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #46 May 20, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI'd have to argue that he is extremely consistent. He has always hewn closely to conservative commentator's views of things. Indeed, once Rush L uses a turn of phrase on a given subject (i.e. "Obama has thrown his white grandmother under the bus") one can be assured that RushMC will soon be using it as well. And there's nothing wrong with that. I agree his conclusions tend to be consistently conservative and usually partisan, but I'm inclined to believe that is an indication of the inconsistent standard of proof of the commentators from which he obtains many of his talking points. Joining billvon with underhanded PA's too? A great demonstration indeed. Apparently you don't understand what a personal attack is (which has long been apparent from the number of times you cry "wolf" against billvon and Kallend). And in this post you prove exactly what I am talking about. It was and is a personal attack, that is why I do not say you parrot only what you here from left sources do you. I believe YOU make up your own mind based on personal experience, up bringing and where you are in your life right now. You probable tend to listen to and read what you agree with more than what you do not agree with but you (as do I ) do listen and read to get what we consider opposing ideas. The difference once again is I think you are wrong in your conclusions. You think the same of me and? At the very least you show no respect to those who vocalize disagreement with you"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,173 #47 May 20, 2008 >I can not beleieve you do not see the difference between what you said >and my post. I said you tend to get your information from conservative commentators. You said the poster gets his information from Demunderground.com or "lefty web sites." >you on the other hand went after someones intelect. ?? I am sure you are a very intelligent guy. So is Rush Limbaugh, for that matter. >Yes words, phases and comments do come from other places, BUT I >CAN AND DO MAKE UP MY OWN MIND . . . I am sure you do! Although your positions mirror conservative positions pretty closely (and sometimes mirror them word for word) I don't doubt that you are applying your own decision making process to them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #48 May 20, 2008 Quote>I can not beleieve you do not see the difference between what you said >and my post. I said you tend to get your information from conservative commentators. You said the poster gets his information from Demunderground.com or "lefty web sites." >you on the other hand went after someones intelect. ?? I am sure you are a very intelligent guy. So is Rush Limbaugh, for that matter. >Yes words, phases and comments do come from other places, BUT I >CAN AND DO MAKE UP MY OWN MIND . . . I am sure you do! Although your positions mirror conservative positions pretty closely (and sometimes mirror them word for word) I don't doubt that you are applying your own decision making process to them. Then why make the comments you made? The demunderground is a comment similar to kallends bs aroung newmax and fox news. This comment in no way came close to the crap of saying someone has to listen to someone else to get thier ipinions. Sheeple comments and that kind of bs tend to come from the left. Look, thanks for you reply, I understand you points Marc"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #49 May 20, 2008 Quote Stupid comment? Absolutely - about as stupid as "So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." Not_Even_Close. You don't get any more arrogant and "elitist" than the crap that Barbara spilled out. And yes, there's plenty of proof that people were starving and dying. They're called "photos". As for Obama's comment, what do you do when you need a release from all the crap that makes your life difficult? Shooting with guns or a camera? Skiing? Running? Posting on the internet? Beer? Women/woman? I "cling" to skydiving and playing with my two boys. That's how I cope with the crap that pisses me off. And yes, I'm bitter that our leadership has made bad decisions that affect my life. The fact that I "cling" to diversions and that someone knows that doesn't mean that I'm being belittled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #50 May 20, 2008 Quote Exactly but, I can not beleieve you do not see the difference between what you said and my post. I went after a source, you on the other hand went after someones intelect. Yes words, phases and comments do come from other places, BUT I CAN AND DO MAKE UP MY OWN MIND, but I have not said you only think what the likes of an Al Franken or someone similar say UH... see right there next to the Post Reply button.... it says Check Spelling. That might reflect better on your intellect if you used it once in a while Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites