IRA caught selling bombs to crime gangs

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Gardai have smashed a bomb supply line between terrorists and Dublin crime gangs.

The breakthrough was made yesterday after a major garda anti-terrorist operation resulted in the arrest of a key dissident republican suspect.

Detectives also recovered a pipebomb, which was ready to be sold to criminals and uncovered a hiding place being used by the manufacturers to store their potentially lethal home-made devices.

The discovery of the device led to a five-hour security alert involving an Army bomb disposal team on rough ground off the Pigeon House Road in the Irishtown area of Dublin's south inner city.

Gardai believe more devices may have been hidden in the area and the scene, which is near a playground, has been sealed off.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/pipebomb-factory-in--cira-link-smashed-by-gardai-1370203.html

Is this part of the 'GWOT''? Good to see these scum for what they really are, nothing but a organised crime gang.

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[normiss 917]

Spoken like a true Englishman!!

[jakee 1,648]

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Spoken like a true Englishman!!

So you think selling bombs to gangs doesn't make them criminal scum? Explain, please.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[normiss 917]

Given Britain's history of oppression over Northern Ireland, I would say the IRA has traditionally been an "organized crime gang".
I even spelled it correctly...

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Funny that but the article was written by a IRISH man and published in a IRISH newspaper, the arrests were made by IRISH Gardai (Police) and they clearly thought the men arrested were criminal scum seeing as they tassered one of them (Only the second time in IRISH history that the Garda have used tassers.)

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[normiss 917]

so

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Is this part of the 'GWO''? Good to see these scum for what they really are, nothing but a organised crime gang.

wasn't your comment???
It appears it was outside the article.
If not, my apologies for jerking your chain.

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So if you were walking your child in a Dublin park and they ran off and got blown to pieces by a bomb that the CIRA had made for a Dublin crime gang just how would you explain that as anything other than a criminal act? Or walking past some scumbag drug dealers car when a device went off, not a criminal gang? Do me a favour.

http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/controlled-explosion-of-viable-device-in-dublin-park-1296427.html

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/pipe-bomb-attack-at-house-blamed-on-feud-680745.html

This has NOTHING to do with Northern Irish politics and everything to do with making money out of the misery of people in IRELAND.

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[jakee 1,648]

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Given Britain's history of oppression over Northern Ireland, I would say the IRA has traditionally been an "organized crime gang".
I even spelled it correctly...

So you do agree they've always been criminal scum? Make your mind up.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[normiss 917]

I'll admit I'm not very current on the IRA's activities...but even the stories you've just attached have no mention of the IRA's involvement, which is what I was addressing in your original comments.

[normiss 917]

huh?

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I'll admit I'm not very current on the IRA's activities...but even the stories you've just attached have no mention of the IRA's involvement, which is what I was addressing in your original comments.

Maybe you should actually try reading the first article then. and one for luck

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[Rhin0 0]

Dang man, years later and you are still posting this crap ;)

nice..

Rhino

[normiss 917]

Boy you guys are tough to keep on subject.

I was initially simply given you shite for YOUR comment regarding the IRA being "nothing but a organised crime gang" as your comment to the FIRST article stated.
You then attach TWO entirely different activities NOT related to (nowhere in either story do they mention the IRA)...so I'm supposed to make a leap from the three stories you've posted and automatically assume the IRA is responsible for acts of crime in Dublin???

We DO speak two different languages.
The IRA is not the root of all evil in Ireland as many British have been made to believe. It's your version of our Al Qaeda....

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Most of the paramilitaries in Ireland have turned to organised crime in the absence of conflict. So that would be the PIRA, CIRA, RIRA, UDA, INLA, UVF, LVF etc. Most of them pay lip service to their respective republican/loyalist ideals but in reality they're just a bunch of crooks. You won't find much support for them, at least not south of the border.

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I was initially simply given you shite for YOUR comment regarding the IRA being "nothing but a organised crime gang" as your comment to the FIRST article stated.

Ok - so you were giving Skyrad shit about saying the IRA was an organised crime gang, after which you go on to say that the IRA is "traditionally an organized crime gang" and "your version of Al Qaeda". I'm still confused!

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[normiss 917]

uncle

it ain't worth the time to explain AGAIN.

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Most of the paramilitaries in Ireland have turned to organised crime in the absence of conflict. So that would be the PIRA, CIRA, RIRA, UDA, INLA, UVF, LVF etc. Most of them pay lip service to their respective republican/loyalist ideals but in reality they're just a bunch of crooks. You won't find much support for them, at least not south of the border.

Having spent the last two years living in Belfast and working on the Falls and now working in Dublin, I'm well aware of that fact. Clearly news hasn't spread across the pond yet though.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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Boy you guys are tough to keep on subject.

I was initially simply given you shite for YOUR comment regarding the IRA being "nothing but a organised crime gang" as your comment to the FIRST article stated.
You then attach TWO entirely different activities NOT related to (nowhere in either story do they mention the IRA)...so I'm supposed to make a leap from the three stories you've posted and automatically assume the IRA is responsible for acts of crime in Dublin???

We DO speak two different languages.
The IRA is not the root of all evil in Ireland as many British have been made to believe. It's your version of our Al Qaeda....

Clearly you didn't read the article or you have no idea about geography I'm not sure which because if you read the first article you would have read that the CIRA was selling pipe bombs to crime gangs in the Republic of Ireland. Let me do the jigsaw for you, the two articles I then posted are about pipe bombs that were used by Dublin crime gangs (Thats in the Republic of Ireland) where did they get the pipe bombs? The CIRA, as posted in the first post. Now if you still are having comprehension issues let me know and I'll draw you a picture.

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Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[normiss 917]

Personally I don't automatically connect two seperate criminal actions based on assumptions.
I was expecting some sort of evidence.
In our country simply because a guy in Califonia gets busted, doesn't mean someone in New York is connected to the crime.
But again, given the British historical views of the IRA, I can see where they would be considered the root of ALL illegal activities in Ireland. (that's sarcasm for those that cannot recognize it in writing.)

It just continues to come across that you don't care for Ireland.

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In our country simply because a guy in Califonia gets busted, doesn't mean someone in New York is connected to the crime.

California and New York are a fair bit further away from each other than any two places in Ireland. Hell, California and New York aren't that much further away from each other than New York and Ireland.

Still, the articles together show that the IRA is selling bombs to gangs, and that gangs are using bombs. It's quite probable then, that the bombs the IRA sells will, at some point, be used in criminal activity. To me, that's pretty bad, and it doesn't matter that they're not providing all the bombs in Ireland (in fact, you're the only person who's even suggested that so far). One would be enough.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[normiss 917]

and one Eng... fuck that...I won't capitalize it as you sort don't deserve it with what you've done to the Irish over the history of our land...one englishman in Ireland was and is too much with the raping of our people and the land.
get the fuck back to your own island and leave the Irish alone.
foreign occupation isn't the answer now and wasn't then.
there's still a valid reason why we don't prefer to accept the king's silver....keep your bloody pounds.
you've cut the population in more than half, you've forced poverty on the nation, you've caused starvation and famine, you've divided the country and caused civil war...but yet ANY stand against the queen is TERRORISM?????

and still you don't stop after the peace was settled...
I can only hope they continue to arm themselves again.
Ireland and england should be further away than New York and California....we're not trying to kill each other!

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It just continues to come across that you don't care for Ireland.

Having Irish ancestry, the majority of my friends being Irish and now living in the country and on the Island or Ireland on and off for the last two years working to improve the healthcare system of both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, the fact that i'm getting married in Ireland next year and will be bringing my children up as Irish you couldn't be more wrong.
I'm curious though what your understanding of the current versions of the IRA is and how they 'care' for Ireland?

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and one Eng... fuck that...I won't capitalize it as you sort don't deserve it with what you've done to the Irish over the history of our land...

Oh, I didn't realise that you are Irish, what part of Ireland were you born in?

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one englishman in Ireland was and is too much with the raping of our people and the land.
get the fuck back to your own island and leave the Irish alone.

Yes the BRITISH did do some terrible acts in Ireland just as some Irish did some terrible acts in England. I make no excuse for the crimes that the BRITISH commited in Ireland but I'm not stupid enough to hold all Irish responsible for the crimes that were committed outside of Ireland by some Irish against non Irish OR the crimes committed by Irish against Irish.
Also Northern Ireland is PART of the United Kingdom and is so because that is the wish of the people of the island of Ireland that live there, they voted to remain British in a democratic vote held last year in the province. (You do belieive in democracy don't you?)

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foreign occupation isn't the answer now and wasn't then.

That is why we had the Good friday agreement and why Sinn Fein is ruling the north of Ireland along with the Ulster Unionists. Thats why Britan ended operation Banner and decommisioned the military posts and redeployed the troops to other theaters of operations (to support American invasions and occupation around the globe). Pretty funny to hear an american banging on about the injustices of foriegn occupation

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there's still a valid reason why we don't prefer to accept the king's silver....keep your bloody pounds.

Actually Ireland uses the Euro and got rid of the Irish Punt years ago and the money in the north of Ireland is minted not by the bank of England but by Ulster Bank and The bank of Ireland. as for the 'King' the only 'King' we've had in my life time was Elvis

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you've cut the population in more than half, you've forced poverty on the nation,

Mass emigration due to lack of work was responsible for most of the population decline in the last century most of which occured after the Republic of Ireland was established and was ruled by Irishmen. As for poverty Ireland is now a well off country whos people are doing well, I guess you never heard of the Celtic Tiger.

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you've caused starvation and famine,

True, we've done alot of bad things over the years just as America has and continues to do around the world. But that was in 1845 ad about the same time as americans were commiting the genocide of the Native Americans.

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you've divided the country and caused civil war...

I think you'll find that that wasn't Jackee but Oliver Cromwell and the Scots who imigrated to Ireland and whos decendants are now as Irish if not more so than you are an American.

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but yet ANY stand against the queen is TERRORISM?????

No any stand against the Queen and the State is treason, planting bombs that kill innocent civillians men, women and children the majority of whom have been Irish. THATS terrorism.

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and still you don't stop after the peace was settled...

Stop what? Just exactly how many (If any at all) days have you ever spent in Ireland?

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I can only hope they continue to arm themselves again.

Thats because you are an american who understands nothing about Ireland or the suffering of the Irish people, not in 1845 but since 1969. To say that and then have the bare faced cheek to say that you care about Ireland is a oxymoron.

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Ireland and england should be further away than New York and California....we're not trying to kill each other!

And if you knew the first thing about Ireland today you'd know that neither are we. In fact even Iain Paisley and Martin McGuinnes are known as the chuckle brothers these days as they're getting along so well. (Google them if you haven't heard of them).
Anyway, I've taken enough of your time, so I'll say 'top of the mornin', to yer' and let you get back to learning history by watching 'Far and away'. Ciao!

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Boy you guys are tough to keep on subject.

I was initially simply given you shite for YOUR comment regarding the IRA being "nothing but a organised crime gang" as your comment to the FIRST article stated.
You then attach TWO entirely different activities NOT related to (nowhere in either story do they mention the IRA)...so I'm supposed to make a leap from the three stories you've posted and automatically assume the IRA is responsible for acts of crime in Dublin???

We DO speak two different languages.
The IRA is not the root of all evil in Ireland as many British have been made to believe. It's your version of our Al Qaeda....

You were saying?

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Dublin man charged with membership of IRA

A Dublin was charged today with membership of the IRA at a special sitting of the Special Criminal Court.

Noel Mooney, of Leo Fitzgerald House, Dublin 2 was also charged with the possession of explosives - namely an improvised explosive device at Sean Moore Park in Ringsend on Thursday.

The 29-year-old was arrested on Thursday in Blackrock.

Mr Justice Paul Butler, presiding at the three-judge court, remanded Mr Mooney in custody until Wednesday, when a bail application is expected to be heard.


http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/dublin-man-charged-with-membership-of-ira-1372197.html

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[jakee 1,648]

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but yet ANY stand against the queen is TERRORISM?????

What the fuck are you talking about? Who said that? Bombing civilians is terrorism. Selling bombs to the underworld is criminal. Why the fuck are you defending these people?

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and still you don't stop after the peace was settled...

Don't stop what?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?