idrankwhat 0 #251 May 15, 2008 Quote You are so ignorant, I can't stand it. If only you would listen to me explain how to move through a sloping crux move on a touchy 11.d, then you'd see the light Easy, use that kneebar to take a quick rest and chalk up. Then reach across your body to stack your fingers into the crack and side pull with your left hand, throw your right leg over the forearm, plant the toe and drive with your right quad, extending your right hand over the sloper to that bucket just above it. Instant nirvana. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #252 May 15, 2008 QuoteBesides, King James was a notorious HOMO (and I'm not making that up, he was a real terror with the young boys). Let it out Thomas, you're amoung friends, he can't hurt you anymore... This is your safe place.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #253 May 15, 2008 Quote Quote You are so ignorant, I can't stand it. If only you would listen to me explain how to move through a sloping crux move on a touchy 11.d, then you'd see the light Easy, use that kneebar to take a quick rest and chalk up. Then reach across your body to stack your fingers into the crack and side pull with your left hand, throw your right leg over the forearm, plant the toe and drive with your right quad, extending your right hand over the sloper to that bucket just above it. Instant nirvana. and so it is written, and so it shall be done (figure 4 style apparently) warvinicus oiminicalia childredo en {actually, the route we're talking about? You'd peel off that bad boy SO FAST with that move.....) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #254 May 15, 2008 Quote {actually, the route we're talking about? You'd peel off that bad boy SO FAST with that move.....) Actually, with as many years as I've been out of the climbing game I'd probably peel off on the approachYou guys leading that move or top-roping? Either way, good on ya! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #255 May 15, 2008 Quote Actually, with as many years as I've been out of the climbing game I'd probably peel off on the approachYou guys leading that move or top-roping? Either way, good on ya! I once fell off of a route just getting out of my car. 11's and 12's (especially in a gym environment) are just a matter of climbing frequently. Most people of decent fitness can get there without a huge commit. But to get past that point you have to really want it. I'm in awe of those guys in the next levels. They earn their abilities. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #256 May 15, 2008 Quote 11's and 12's (especially in a gym environment) are just a matter of climbing frequently. Most people of decent fitness can get there without a huge commit. But to get past that point you have to really want it. I'm in awe of those guys in the next levels. They earn their abilities. I never climbed much in the gym. Most of it was trad at Seneca Rocks. They've got a whole bunch of beautiful 5.7s that I've seen freak out some overly confident New River climbers. It's funny to watch 'em approach a traversing route with a rack full of quick drawsIf you get a chance you should go out there. It's a beautiful, spiritual experience that will bring you closer to God than getting dressed up and singing some old songs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #257 May 15, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteIts called learning these days, from the bad decisions of others made in the first 2348 years of this world. ( 1656 B.C.) Just so I know from what perspective you are debating these points, how old do you think the Earth is? As someone said, time as interpreted in the bible can mean anything. Scientifically, I'd say about 4 to 5 billion years. I was hoping for chuteless to specify, because it looked like he was using years the way we usually measure them - - in trips around the Sun. I know many Christians rely on what you mention as a way to reconcile the words of the Bible with established scientific findings; but we both also know that some minority of them belive the Earth to truly be only about 4,000 trips around the Sun in age. I was wondering where chuteless fell on this." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #258 May 15, 2008 Quoteit looked like he was using years the way we usually measure them - - in trips around the Sun. This must have been very embarassing for you, showing your ignorance in public like that... way back then, it was trips of the Sun around the earth - not earth around the sun even before then, the sun just traversed across the firmament in a drawn carriage, then at night it worked its way through the caverns beneath the surface of the flat planet (actually, I like to think it burned a straight shot through the lower world since it seemed to take about the same amount of time to travel under as it did 'over') the whole rotation thing didn't really switch until somewhere between Copernicus' and Galileo's days. read your bible and the church histories for goodness sakes ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #259 May 15, 2008 QuoteQuoteBesides, King James was a notorious HOMO (and I'm not making that up, he was a real terror with the young boys). Let it out Thomas, you're amoung friends, he can't hurt you anymore... This is your safe place. Glad to see I'm not the only one with the occasional eight-pages-later comment. Oh, one more thing; my final answer to the original post - NO." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #260 May 15, 2008 QuoteQuoteI just thought I should call dibbs first in case there is cash involved. Oh no you dont.... you KNOW the government has first dibbs oin that... they might get testy if you got in line first. Reverend Lovejoy has made it clear that it's 10% off the top, not the net. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #261 May 15, 2008 QuoteQuoteit looked like he was using years the way we usually measure them - - in trips around the Sun. This must have been very embarassing for you, showing your ignorance in public like that... way back then, it was trips of the Sun around the earth - not earth around the sun even before then, the sun just traversed across the firmament in a drawn carriage, then at night it worked its way through the caverns beneath the surface of the flat planet (actually, I like to think it burned a straight shot through the lower world since it seemed to take about the same amount of time to travel under as it did 'over') the whole rotation thing didn't really switch until somewhere between Copernicus' and Galileo's days. read your bible and the church histories for goodness sakes That's it. This thread has degenerated into such disrespectable irrelevant silliness that I am going to the bonfire. Even chuteless has left. I'll be back when you can stay on topic." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #262 May 15, 2008 Quote Quote The errors are only there when itis misread without Spiritual direction and understanding. So your all powerful, all knowing, all etc... God created your Bible but only those people with "spiritual direction and understanding" can read it correctly ... What kind and loving god would write something that the vast majority of the people cannot read to understand? He must also be responsible for the instructions behind California's 540 tax form. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #263 May 15, 2008 QuoteI'll be back ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #264 May 15, 2008 >War is also becoming a problem. We should start a War on War. Who's with me? War is a completely different issue, and has nothing to do with war, you teacup-chasing, kneebump-knocking ambigulator. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #265 May 15, 2008 Quote >War is also becoming a problem. We should start a War on War. Who's with me? War is a completely different issue, and has nothing to do with war, you teacup-chasing, kneebump-knocking ambigulator. Where is a moderator when I need one ... "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #266 May 15, 2008 QuoteI'll be back when you can stay on topic. Fine, take your ball and go home. But, this counts as a victory in my tally - per standard forum rules you spaculating, pestilant, almond chewer ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #267 May 15, 2008 Quote>War is also becoming a problem. We should start a War on War. Who's with me? War is a completely different issue, and has nothing to do with war, you teacup-chasing, kneebump-knocking ambigulator. ambigulators are cool - what with the sirens and the gurneys and the red cross on the side ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #268 May 15, 2008 Jump out of an airplane without a parachute? Man, you gotta be.... .....Oh. Never mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rynodigsmusic 0 #269 May 15, 2008 QuoteQuoteYou had better get ready! You're right, I better get ready. What is the best way to defend against your God? A knife, gun, missile, etc...? After all, I don't want to spend eternity beneath an evil dictator (your Heaven) and I don't want to be taken hostage and tortured for eternity (your Hell) ... If we speak in the truth of the Gospel, then we say we dont know if Heaven is a place or not. We dont know if Hell is a place either. What we do know is that they are destinations in the heart. We know that one is comfort and one is agony and both are entered by fire. I believe what this means is we enter either by the desire of our hearts. Truth is the way you reconcile with God. But unfortunately, truth is one of the hardest things for us to accept. Even when we are watching all the things we love vanish from our lives, we still will not acknowledge the truth...like an addict who watches his life go up in smoke, or a man who is always finding fault in someone else and will inevitibly be consumed by his own desire to not see the fault in himself. The Gospel is clear. God judges us, the way we judge others. It is not God who will judge and condemn you, it is yourself, and Jesus says by your words you will be condemned and by your words you will be acquited. Im afraid you may not come to God until/unless your heart desires him, and that will most likely not happen until you need him. But, this I promise, when/if that time comes...he will be there with open arms, regardless what you have done or thought, and he will show you what the light is all about."We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #270 May 15, 2008 Quote The Gospel is clear. the Bills have established that it's anything but clear, and only the spirtually gifted can understand it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rynodigsmusic 0 #271 May 15, 2008 QuoteI think that I believe a lot of the same things that you believe. I'm just not a Christian and I don't believe in God, so we have a different language for describing the things we believe. I can read what you write about Jesus and translate most of it into something that makes sense to me, but I don't accept God or Jesus being the son of God as literal truth. You may not know how profound what you are saying actually is. All of us are inspiring one another, it really doesnt take alot of effort to see the impact and flow of these coversations...We all have life within us, and that is our fundamental connection. Its finding the greater things in life that most of us seek. If anything I say makes sense to you, then you listen to truth more than you think, and that means that you are on truths side. Jesus said "all those on the side of truth, listen to me" Jesus as the Son of God is spiritually discerned. God is spirit, the spirit inspires, Jesus was a man just like you and I, inspired by the spirit of God (The Holy Spirit) It was God, as man who showed his love for us on the cross. Grace is the greatest gift, but it also is spiritually discerned. Grace is the presence of God, this I cant explain with words...beautiful, full of life, intoxicating."We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #272 May 15, 2008 Quote If anything I say makes sense to you, then you listen to truth more than you think . . . I never said that I don't listen to truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rynodigsmusic 0 #273 May 16, 2008 Quote Quote The Gospel is clear. the Bills have established that it's anything but clear, and only the spirtually gifted can understand it. ...All of us are spiritually gifted. All that means is do you listen? Can you hear? Or are you still listening with your own ears for what you want to hear? No one, not even the Bills You have to sit down one day and be completely 100% honest with yourself, find the good the bad and the ugly of your being. Humble yourself and keep your mind open. The greatest gift is to realize, to truly realize that you know absolutely nothing. I promise, if you can do that, you will be so much more open to recieve the wisdom in life, then the Gospel will make sense to you, believe it or not, the Gospel is very clear."We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rynodigsmusic 0 #274 May 16, 2008 Quote Quote If anything I say makes sense to you, then you listen to truth more than you think . . . I never said that I don't listen to truth. Since you listen to truth, do you speak the truth as well? Have you read the Gospel?"We didn't start the fire" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #275 May 16, 2008 ................e... ................n... ........w......v... ........o......i.... ........minorities Children...o..... ........n.....n.... ...............m.. ...............e.. ...............n.. ...............t.. I like the poem A Leaf Falls so much better than what you have posted.....It makes more sense as well! "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
