Is God trying to tell us something?

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The King James Bible ....

HOW MUCH I WOULD LIKE TO SIT A DOZEN OF YOU PEOPLE DOWN IN A LECTURE ROOM WHERE I COULD USE A BLACKBOARD TO SHOW YOU THE DEPTH OF THE WONDERS OF GOD. WOW!!!!!!!

Bill, it was your personal decision to choose that King James Bible for your own researches. That does not mean it's generally admitted. You work with it on a daily basis. You built your beliefs around it.

Bring them together in one room: If that's all you have to show, you'll have to face a glorious flop.

I did not forget our heated discussions. You did not convince me, you surely will not convince anyone whose beliefs are different to yours, especially with re to KJB.

My reply only refers to the KJB, on which you base your belief. Not to "God" or another girl itself ......

Christel

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He is telling us something.

He wishes we would all brush more often, and wash before meals, and keep your elbows off the table - - you look like a bunch of ill-mannered Cretins.

And how many times have I told you to put away your things when you're done with them - - BEFORE you drag out any MORE toys? Do I look like a housemaid?

I give, and I give, and I give.

That's what he is trying to tell us.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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Why was the KJV an improvement over the Geneva Bible (the most commonly used one at that time)?

And also: It IS true that there are many English words & phrases that have changed in meaning over the last 4 centuries. Some of the archaic language of the original KJV wouldn't mean the same thing to a modern reader.

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As it states in God's WORD, " We also have a more sure word of prophecy, knowing this first, that NO PROPHECY OF THE SCRIPTURE is OF ANY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION, for the prophecy came not in old time by the WILL OF MAN, but by Holy men who were moved by the Holy Spirit " ( 2nd Peter 1:20 ).

This statement would seem to negate your own private interpretations about the Bible re. hidden coded messages/prophecies.

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What with the Tsunami of 2006 and now this cyclone disaster in Burma (Myanmar) killing tens of thousands of people.

I was just wondering, does God have something against Muslims and military junta governments?

Sure you can make the argument that the U.S. gets its share of disasters, just not with the amount of deaths like the others.

Different housing/buildings. Burma isn't a Muslim country. Still he only hits us darkies every now and then but he throws tornados at you guys serveral times a year, its an attrition thing

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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Hey Billy,

You asked a simple opinion question and as it always is in SC you got a bunch of posts that just mock eachother.

It amazes me how much wisdom people here think they have in regard to issues they really know nothing about. We've all been alive for a speck of time in the grand scheme of things, but hence everyone thinks they have all the answers.

What amazes me is how quickly folks will dismiss the possibility that private revelation exists. Impossible! If God exists, how is it possible that He could privately reveal some things to individuals. Afterall, some of you are dumber; so God would never choose you over me.

You asked for a personal opinion, so I will give you mine. Yes, He is trying to tell us something. I don't believe He is singling out just Muslims but all of mankind. I believe He has been telling mankind something throughout history. My personal observation is 'Man's inhumanity toward Man'. This comes in many forms. My hunch, and I stress 'hunch' is that things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

Now, before anyone gets their panties in a wad, this is my personal opinion; which is what Billy asked for. I'm not standing at any pulpit preaching this as gospel.

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Chris

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Hey Billy,

You asked a simple opinion question and as it always is in SC you got a bunch of posts that just mock eachother.

It amazes me how much wisdom people here think they have in regard to issues they really know nothing about. We've all been alive for a speck of time in the grand scheme of things, but hence everyone thinks they have all the answers.

What amazes me is how quickly folks will dismiss the possibility that private revelation exists. Impossible! If God exists, how is it possible that He could privately reveal some things to individuals. Afterall, some of you are dumber; so God would never choose you over me.

You asked for a personal opinion, so I will give you mine. Yes, He is trying to tell us something. I don't believe He is singling out just Muslims but all of mankind. I believe He has been telling mankind something throughout history. My personal observation is 'Man's inhumanity toward Man'. This comes in many forms. My hunch, and I stress 'hunch' is that things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

Now, before anyone gets their panties in a wad, this is my personal opinion; which is what Billy asked for. I'm not standing at any pulpit preaching this as gospel.

Your God creates natural disasters (that kills men, women, and children) instead of sending a messenger ... what a loving God you have.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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I agree with your personal opinion as expressed.

Although the USA does a lot for people in a disaster, they also lead the world in waging wars against smaller countries without good cause. You are right about man's inhumanity towards their fellow man....

Hitler told his thugs that it was okay to torture anyone to get information that would help Germany in their war.

George Bush said the same thing...if it would help the USA.

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Your suggestion is ridiculous. God wrote His Divinely inspired WORD for man to read, and Spiritually understand, including the prophecies that were made more than 2500 years ago, about what will take place in the last days of this world.

I read it, and with God's grace, I understand much of it. To understand the entire Bible would take several lifetimes.


I amazes me that so many people in these forums profess that they donot even believe in God, and yet they make statements as though they are dedicate Bible students.
It is obvious that they know little or nothing about God or His WORD.

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Well one thing is a fact in any case:

Over the last 2000 years there have been many people setting dates for the end times, based on what they believed they understood from the Bible. So far they're all batting a big zero.

In other posts I have posted the websites of the lists of all the times people "predicted" the end times. Many of these predictions were based on the Bible. The Millerites, Hal Lindsey, Jack van Impe, and the lists go on & on.

They could always find some dates, numbers, codes, or symbols or whatever else in the Bible that they could make correlate with the current events of their time.

I believe it is harmful when Christians set dates & predictions for the end times, and then the predictions don't come true.

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Your God creates natural disasters (that kills men, women, and children) instead of sending a messenger ... what a loving God you have.

God giveth, and God taketh away. It's somewhere in the bible. It's how you deal with your personal loss when it happens, and how you regard others who have suffered losses that God wants to see.

I know I am not helping myself in that regard in the other thread.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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Your God creates natural disasters (that kills men, women, and children) instead of sending a messenger ... what a loving God you have.

God giveth, and God taketh away. It's somewhere in the bible. It's how you deal with your personal loss when it happens, and how you regard others who have suffered losses that God wants to see.

I know I am not helping myself in that regard in the other thread.

Your God kills men, women, and children to see how you react ... what a loving God you have.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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Perhaps these people would have been better off to study what happened when the Jews were kept 400 years in slavery to the Egyptians.

The Egyptians were told to let them go free, and they wouldnt, and God brought all sorts of plagues upon the Egyptians, until they finally realized it was not a good idea to fight against the Almighty God.


After the Jews were set free, they continually worshipped idols made with their own hands, and which had NO power to do anything but collect dust, and repeatedly they defied God.

The people who suffer the Tsunami, the cyclones, the earthquakes, are mainly people who worship false gods made of stone or clay. Look at the budda, and the gods of India and surrounding areas.

The Jews spent another 70 years in slavery in Babylon, 606 B.C. to 536 B.C.

Still they defied God, and spent 2520 years dispersed throughout the world. When the dispersion ended, right to the very day, Israel declared itself a nation ( May 15th 1948)

These things had all been prophesied to them, and they ignored it.

The Holocaust was prophesied by Ezekiel over 2500 years before it took place, and the Jews didnt believe it.

When Christ was crucified, they said " Let his blood be upon us and our children".

When the holocaust happened, they cried " where is God when we need Him"

He said through Ezekiel, he would not listen to their cries, and would not have pity.

Do you think the Jews have learned anything from all their hardships.

NO....NOTHING.

The only prophesies that have not been fulfilled to this day ( and some are being fulfilled right now ) are those involving the end times, which is the time in which we live.

The prophet Daniel then prophesied that the Jews would have 70 (weeks---meaning years) in which they would build their nation before God gathered the armies of the world against them at Armageddon, and this would take plave during the last seven years of Daniel's 70 years.

It has now been 60 years, the next ten years will be a terrible time. The end of the 70th year is 2017....not 70 years by our calendar, but by the Hebrew calendar which only has 360 days per year, and in fact is a total of 25200 days.

The United Ststes will soon be the UN-TIED States, because while they profess to be a godly nation, they are not. Fact is all their gods are covered in chrome or money.

Reverand Jeremiah Wright told the truth, and the United States cannot handle the truth.

The USA Government has exploited the poor and called it a lottery.....They reward laziness and call it welfare.....They kill millions of unborn babies after a 9 month pregnancy ( partial birth abortion), and call if freedom of choice....They neglect to dicipline their children and say it is building self esteem,. ...they fill the airwaves with all sorts of profanity and vulgar pornography and say it is fredom of expression.

WHY would God Bless America... I can't think of a single reason.

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...and in comparison, how is Canada doing?

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I amazes me that so many people in these forums profess that they donot even believe in God, and yet they make statements as though they are dedicate Bible students.
It is obvious that they know little or nothing about God or His WORD.

I don't know that so many people "profess that they don't believe in God" but I'd guess that many have a problem, me included (Presbyterian minister's son), with the notion of the anthropomorphic version that is handed to us by the founders of the church. I believe that there is a creator but I will not be so arrogant as to say that I know the nature of that creator. Science helps us in the pursuit of an answer to that question. Whether we will ever be able to reach a conclusion is uncertain. At this point, we're not even close.

I also believe that if you were to compare the "Cliffs Notes" versions of all of the major religions that you would find a common theme, and THAT is the message that the creator is trying to get across, if any.

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Your God kills men, women, and children indiscriminately to prove that your God is the God ... what a loving God you have.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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I think you made all that up and are just using your imagination when reading your KJv bible. You don't have any proof or evidence to support any of what you say. Deitys are just a human construct used to explain what they don't understand. Your dates will come and go with out any of your predictions coming true.

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Your God kills men, women, and children indiscriminately to prove that your God is the God ... what a loving God you have.

Let me guess, you're an atheist?

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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Reverand Jeremiah Wright told the truth, and the United States cannot handle the truth.

Ah -- another believer that the US government created AIDS to destroy the black man.

I suppose Fred Phelps is "right on track" too, huh?

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Your God kills men, women, and children indiscriminately to prove that your God is the God ... what a loving God you have.

Let me guess, you're an atheist?

Nope.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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Over the last 2000 years there have been many people setting dates for the end times, based on what they believed they understood from the Bible. So far they're all batting a big zero.

In other posts I have posted the websites of the lists of all the times people "predicted" the end times. Many of these predictions were based on the Bible. The Millerites, Hal Lindsey, Jack van Impe, and the lists go on & on.

I came across a list a while back regarding the debunking of end-of-the-world predictions. Since 1900 the score is about 70 to 0 against the doomsayers. Not one of the 70 or so well known end of the world scares has come true.

It occurs to me that end of the world fans might have a lot in common with Cubs fans.

We'll get 'em next year.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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Over the last 2000 years there have been many people setting dates for the end times, based on what they believed they understood from the Bible. So far they're all batting a big zero.

In other posts I have posted the websites of the lists of all the times people "predicted" the end times. Many of these predictions were based on the Bible. The Millerites, Hal Lindsey, Jack van Impe, and the lists go on & on.

I came across a list a while back regarding the debunking of end-of-the-world predictions. Since 1900 the score is about 70 to 0 against the doomsayers. Not one of the 70 or so well known end of the world scares has come true.

It occurs to me that end of the world fans might have a lot in common with Cubs fans.

We'll get 'em next year.

Ziiiiing!!!

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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Perhaps these people would have been better off to study what happened when the Jews were kept 400 years in slavery to the Egyptians.

The Egyptians were told to let them go free, and they wouldnt, and God brought all sorts of plagues upon the Egyptians, until they finally realized it was not a good idea to fight against the Almighty God.

After the Jews were set free, they continually worshipped idols made with their own hands, and which had NO power to do anything but collect dust, and repeatedly they defied God.

The people who suffer the Tsunami, the cyclones, the earthquakes, are mainly people who worship false gods made of stone or clay. Look at the budda, and the gods of India and surrounding areas.

So first he punished the Egyptions for being mean to the Jews, then he goes onto punish the Jews for not being nice enough to him?

As opposed to the much simpler explanation - natural disasters happen? And the Egypt, like most of the 'Great' civilizations, eventually grows to unsustainable size and falls.

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The Holocaust was prophesied by Ezekiel over 2500 years before it took place, and the Jews didnt believe it.

How valid is a prophesy that took 10x the length of the industrial era to become true?

Your prediction of a comet or asteroid is perfectly good if you get 2 millenium to wait for validation.

We've seen a lot more genocides than just the Jews in the past century.

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It has now been 60 years, the next ten years will be a terrible time. The end of the 70th year is 2017....not 70 years by our calendar, but by the Hebrew calendar which only has 360 days per year, and in fact is a total of 25200 days.

just laughing my ass off. The Simpsons episode where Homer foretells the rapture after torturing a chalkboard comes to mind. People like to see order in random numbers, but rarely are they so orderly.

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Your God creates natural disasters (that kills men, women, and children) instead of sending a messenger ... what a loving God you have.

Don't forget the dinosaurs. He killed them also.

Just one question: How many people do humans kill?

Well actually another question: Isn't it true that humans are mortal?

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Over the last 2000 years there have been many people setting dates for the end times, based on what they believed they understood from the Bible. So far they're all batting a big zero.

In other posts I have posted the websites of the lists of all the times people "predicted" the end times. Many of these predictions were based on the Bible. The Millerites, Hal Lindsey, Jack van Impe, and the lists go on & on.

I came across a list a while back regarding the debunking of end-of-the-world predictions. Since 1900 the score is about 70 to 0 against the doomsayers. Not one of the 70 or so well known end of the world scares has come true.

It occurs to me that end of the world fans might have a lot in common with Cubs fans.

We'll get 'em next year.

The world did, in fact, end each time. It was then re-created as if nothing had happened (kind of like the season of "Dallas" that was just a dream).

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