More sexism in Medicine

[kbordson 8]

Are There Too Many Women Doctors?


What poor journalism.

Quoting statistics but not linking or referencing sources.

Finding an "enemy" to a problem rather than a solution. Instead of talking about empowering more people to pursue medicine as a career or discussing the medical-legal climate driving many away or bringing up the increasing costs of medical school compared to the decreasing reimbursements from medicare/medicaid. Lets just say that it's the fault of Women Physicians that there are fewer doctors available.

And the outright LIES! I KNOW that I see more than some of my male partners, and I've only been with this group for a year and a half. But... it does say that I was "willing to take on lower-paying specialties."

[Gene03 0]

But, but you're just a girl? You're not supposed to think.

“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him.

Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966)

[Lindsey 0]

Somebody's little penis got stepped on....must've been a woman. :)

Being a woman, working WAAAAAY more than the male physician's average of 53 (???was that a typo?) hours a week--heck, this month I'm on for 354 hours...and that's with one week of vacation--I just had to laugh at this whole silly article. I think it's great that there are female physicians who find a way to manage busy medical practices AND do those jobs that are traditionally neglected by men--raising kids and tending to households.

I does kind of piss me off a little when I see how hard I and my female colleagues work, relative to men doing our same jobs, and then hear people putting us down. But I know what I do, and I'm well aware of my reputation as a physician in our area. If some stupid people can't work this out more realistically, then they deserve to out themselves as fools.

Personally, I think it's the blacks....

linz

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[shropshire 0]

There, there don't you worry your pretty little head about it nursey

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[ltdiver 3]

Reading some of the reviews to the article HERE I like Morgan Daniel's insight and solution to 'the doctor shortage and burn-out' problem.

ltdiver

Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

[lawrocket 3]

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I KNOW that I see more than some of my male partners

Wow! Sounds like harassment to me! How much of your male partners do you see?

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Lindsey 0]

Unfortunately, I don't think the problem is as much in the absolute number of physicians, but more of the number of physicians willing to practice primary care where more physicians are needed. It's difficult to recruit physicians to underserved areas. Even though the income potential for a primary care doc in a rural area is much higher than her counterpart in the city, the work is hard. Hours are long. You have to be able to do a lot of things well (unless you're okay with being mediocre) because there are no specialists in town. Socially, its difficult for a lot of physicians too--you're kinda isolated when you live in the sticks.

Were it not for women docs, who are inherently lazy, this would not be a problem...lol.

:)
linz

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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

[ltdiver 3]

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Even though the income potential for a primary care doc in a rural area is much higher than her counterpart in the city, the work is hard. Hours are long. You have to be able to do a lot of things well

The movie "Doc Hollywood" comes to mind now.

ltdiver

Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

[kallend 2,184]

So why aren't medical schools taking more students and graduating more MDs? It's not like there's a shortage of applicants to med school.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[GQ_jumper 4]

So why aren't medical schools taking more students and graduating more MDs? It's not like there's a shortage of applicants to med school.

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I think the question should be can we accomplish this without lowering standards?

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower

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[kbordson 8]

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So why aren't medical schools taking more students and graduating more MDs? It's not like there's a shortage of applicants to med school.

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I think the question should be can we accomplish this without lowering standards?

Yes.

Does the MCAT adequately predict success as a physician or even success with completing medical school? Was Organic Chem truly necessary to understand pharmacology? Is Calculus really helping me with delivering babies? "Lowering standards" or changing entry requirements might not change physician standards at all. But would change the "passion," the need for "GOT TO WANT IT" that you have to have now to make it though..... and what would losing that do to the physician work ethic?

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[nerdgirl 0]

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Yes.

Does the MCAT adequately predict success as a physician or even success with completing medical school? Was Organic Chem truly necessary to understand pharmacology? Is Calculus really helping me with delivering babies? "Lowering standards" or changing entry requirements might not change physician standards at all. But would change the "passion," the need for "GOT TO WANT IT" that you have to have now to make it though..... and what would losing that do to the physician work ethic?

Thanks for the link. I probably would have not seen it otherwise.

I'm not even sure that one has to go to the kind of factors you cited above, which as you well know, serve a de facto 'weed-out' role (one can argue whether it's useful or not).

I'd be very curious to see the number of graduating seniors who have all the qualifications -- no, need to change standards at all -- but there are just not available spots in medical school. I would speculate (so take it for whatever you want) that there are, at a minimum, 3 qualified medical school applicants who aren't accepted, for every 1 who is accepted. It's a tough, one might say in a good way, elite profession.

VR/Marg

Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
Tibetan Buddhist saying

[TrophyHusband 0]

"It's that study after study has found women doctors tend to work 20% to 25% fewer hours than their male counterparts."

heaven forbids that after twelve years or training and triple digit work-weeks a person should want to actually have some personal time or family time. i can't believe the balls of those women who refuse to work 24-7 and have children who acually know them. btw where are those mythical 47 or 53 hour work weeks they speak or? the only way my wife gets to work a 53 hour week is if she takes a day off.

"Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama
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[kelpdiver 2]

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So why aren't medical schools taking more students and graduating more MDs? It's not like there's a shortage of applicants to med school.

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I think the question should be can we accomplish this without lowering standards?

Some very intelligent friends of mine spent a couple years doing the application guantlet without success. Seems like quite a racket in fees for the schools. One of them now does HIV research for Gilead.

Meanwhile I run into no shortage of asshole doctors. The supply problem is quite deliberate - the fewer doctors, the better the pay. The downside is the working hours - both for the doctors who live it, and the patients who get serviced under this system.

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