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Kucinich is an Ohio Representative in the US Congress who unsuccessfully sought the Democratic nomination for President in 2008. As a Congressman, he tried to have Vice President Dick Cheney impeached. As a presidential candidate, among other things, he supports ending the War On Drugs and establishing universal health care.
This is exactly why he had no chance
Too many good ideas? No, that's not the reason. His claim to have seen a UFO is what ruined his chances.
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QuoteQuoteAll of these reasons were why we were involved n WWII. So clearly something must be different between then and now. I'll posit that until 1991 - there were two big dogs in the world. Now there is one.
Would that one be China, EU or USA? Just because the US barks the loudest doesn't make them the only big dog.
Gotta love students - where idealism and hopes trump reality at every step.
Could China or the EU form a superpower? Sure, could happen in the next decade, or never. China is esp vunerable to the energy problem. The EU hasn't even finished unifying, and we'll see over the next year or so how badly they manage their involvement in this financial liquidity mess. (check out UBS and Credit Suisse)
Will the USA fall from being the one superpower? Of course, it's very unlikely that a power with *5%* of the population will keep that state indefinitely, as shown by history.
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Quote... where idealism and hopes trump reality at every step.
What’s wrong with idealism & hope?
'Reality' (whoever is getting to define it) is no more the exclusive domain of the cynics than it is the idealists.
Well-executed idealism & hope can change the world ... even if one by-product was creating a unipolar world.
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QuoteGotta love students - where idealism and hopes trump reality at every step.
If you don't believe that the EU or China are superpowers, economic or otherwise, then it is you who has lost touch with reality. Does the US have a head start? Absolutely. But China and the EU are very much in the race with us.
QuoteThe EU hasn't even finished unifying, and we'll see over the next year or so how badly they manage their involvement in this financial liquidity mess. (check out UBS and Credit Suisse)
It's not like the US is not suffering from our own financial crises. Additionally, much of the progress in the US has come at the expense of unsustainable deficit spending.
Let's not forget that the EU has two permanent seats on the UNSC compared to the single seat of the United States. Their GDP is over 25% larger than the GDP of the US. They are also the largest exporter in the world.
China has excellent growth rates, large population, and favorable price parity in their favor. Add to that the fact they they produce a lot of the goods we consider essential (do you like having affordable computers and cell phones?), and hold a large amount of US currency with which they could flood the market and cause additional financial problems for the US.
The US is by no means the world's only superpower. We have the highest military spending, but that does not make a superpower.
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QuoteQuote... where idealism and hopes trump reality at every step.
What’s wrong with idealism & hope?
nothing, but what we're seeing here is the neverending badmouthing of ones own country, even when not accurate.
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China has excellent growth rates, large population, and favorable price parity in their favor. Add to that the fact they they produce a lot of the goods we consider essential (do you like having affordable computers and cell phones?), and hold a large amount of US currency with which they could flood the market and cause additional financial problems for the US.
Actually, that dollar dependency prevents them from doing any such thing. It's as meaningful as saying they can ignore MAD and send 500 nukes our way.
Have you been to China? To achieve their claimed growth rates, they are polluting on a level that reminds of the early industrial revolution. Your eyes hurt in some of the interior cities. That is a form of deficit spending too.
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QuoteActually, that dollar dependency prevents them from doing any such thing.
Just as they moved their currency from a fixed peg against the dollar to a floating peg, they could remove any dependancy.
QuoteTo achieve their claimed growth rates, they are polluting on a level that reminds of the early industrial revolution.
That's probably because it is their industrial revolution. Is that pollution good? No. I agree it's a form of deficit spending, but the US is still a major polluter as well. We should add that pollution to our deficit spending, also.
It serves no useful purpose to deny the importance of other nations of the world just because we don't agree with their ideology.
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Quotenothing, but what we're seeing here is the neverending badmouthing of ones own country, even when not accurate.
Who was badmouthing their country?
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QuoteQuoteAlso who the hell is Denis Hucinich? Never heard of him.
Kucinich is an Ohio Representative in the US Congress who unsuccessfully sought the Democratic nomination for President in 2008. As a Congressman, he tried to have Vice President Dick Cheney impeached. As a presidential candidate, among other things, he supports ending the War On Drugs and establishing universal health care.
Yes. He was the Canada of the world. Powerful and influential in its own right, and extremely respectable, but not worthy of fear, hatred or awe.
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QuoteWhat’s wrong with idealism & hope?
That's what I say. Leave the creationists alone.
QuoteWell-executed idealism & hope can change the world ... even if one by-product was creating a unipolar world.
Call it "Intelligent Design" and start with school boards.
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QuoteQuoteWhat’s wrong with idealism & hope?
That's what I say. Leave the creationists alone.
I guess I'm easily confused today - that seems like both a non sequitor, as well as innacurate suggestion of the behavioral vector.
Or are you being sarcastic?
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QuoteQuoteThe following comments are based on facts, and experience, nothing more, nothing less.
Because the U.S. Government believes if everyone is not living in a democratic society, then we should take it upon ourselves to convert them. We've become the very thing we fought so hard against in the 50's & 60's. Communism, socialism, dictatorship.
At the present time we are fighting an illegal war in iraq. Why is it illegal? The Pres. did not have Congressional approval, the US did not have UN concensus to go to war. The very reason the UN was formed (Yesterday, 50 Years ago) was to keep any country from declaring war on another country without consultation with every country who is a member of the UN.
We destroyed Iraq's government by removing Sadaam, (Yeah, Yeah i know he was a mean hombre, but we gave him every weapon he ever had, so he would help us control Iran at the time) we are now trying our best to impose democracy in that country. Sound familiar? It should, it's the same thing The USSR was trying to do years ago. There are many things going on in a lot of countries we don't even know about. We are still occupying many countries that do not want our presence there. We've been asked to leave these countries many times, we refuse to do so. When Sadaam gassed the Kurds, he killed approx 10,000 people. Hitler was personally responseable for killing 6 million Jews, and 7 million Russians. Kind of puts the 10,000 Kurds in perspective, doesn't it?
If Japan came over here and invaded our country, killed our President for genecide, or what ever, wouldn't you hate them, or at least hate what they were doing?
That's why 3rd world countries hate us. I've been there, the way the people look at you just cuts you to the soul, it hurts. I don't watch anything on U-Tube, the only reason i'm aware of it is because of my kids, and my grandchildren. Don't even watch that "Propaganda" it's just a means to a way of stirring up further hate, and discontent. Don't let other's cause you to be a participant to the overall problem.
Having said all of that, regardless of why we are doing what we are doing, i support our troops, i commend them for what they're doing. My sons have served in Iraq, the oldest doing 3 tours. I'm very proud of all of the U.S. Women & Men serving their country, regardless of whether they believe in what we're doing, that takes guts. God bless our troops.
I didn't know which to vote for, because from my travels abroad, this is what i've seen:
People don't hate America. People hate "Americans". You can read the news and this or that government's opinions of our policies, but down on the streets of places like Europe, etc, people don't care about that stuff. People care that they see Americans laughing at or dismissing their culture as unimportant. Americans not bothering to learn their language when traveling and just expecting everyone to know English.
They care that they see Americans with this enormous cultural arrogance, that everyone and everything should conform to OUR way of doing things, rather than US making a little effort to conform to others.
Next time you go abroad (if you even do, that's part of the problem....how many people actually have passports?) take a look at the "backpacking" scene. Travelers who are there to actually experience the culture of a foreign land. Watch how many Americans wear Canadian flags. Ask them why.
I honestly think most non-americans still see the US as a place for opportunities. But like a lot of the faith vs. religion arguments you see on here, "Americans" are much different in practice than the America of the ideal.
People don't hate America. People hate "Americans". You can read the news and this or that government's opinions of our policies, but down on the streets of places like Europe, etc, people don't care about that stuff. People care that they see Americans laughing at or dismissing their culture as unimportant. Americans not bothering to learn their language when traveling and just expecting everyone to know English.
They care that they see Americans with this enormous cultural arrogance, that everyone and everything should conform to OUR way of doing things, rather than US making a little effort to conform to others.
Next time you go abroad (if you even do, that's part of the problem....how many people actually have passports?) take a look at the "backpacking" scene. Travelers who are there to actually experience the culture of a foreign land. Watch how many Americans wear Canadian flags. Ask them why.
I honestly think most non-americans still see the US as a place for opportunities. But like a lot of the faith vs. religion arguments you see on here, "Americans" are much different in practice than the America of the ideal.
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Because the U.S. Government believes if everyone is not living in a democratic society, then we should take it upon ourselves to convert them. We've become the very thing we fought so hard against in the 50's & 60's. Communism, socialism, dictatorship.
At the present time we are fighting an illegal war in iraq. Why is it illegal? The Pres. did not have Congressional approval, the US did not have UN concensus to go to war. The very reason the UN was formed (Yesterday, 50 Years ago) was to keep any country from declaring war on another country without consultation with every country who is a member of the UN.
We destroyed Iraq's government by removing Sadaam, (Yeah, Yeah i know he was a mean hombre, but we gave him every weapon he ever had, so he would help us control Iran at the time) we are now trying our best to impose democracy in that country. Sound familiar? It should, it's the same thing The USSR was trying to do years ago. There are many things going on in a lot of countries we don't even know about. We are still occupying many countries that do not want our presence there. We've been asked to leave these countries many times, we refuse to do so. When Sadaam gassed the Kurds, he killed approx 10,000 people. Hitler was personally responseable for killing 6 million Jews, and 7 million Russians. Kind of puts the 10,000 Kurds in perspective, doesn't it?
If Japan came over here and invaded our country, killed our President for genecide, or what ever, wouldn't you hate them, or at least hate what they were doing?
That's why 3rd world countries hate us. I've been there, the way the people look at you just cuts you to the soul, it hurts. I don't watch anything on U-Tube, the only reason i'm aware of it is because of my kids, and my grandchildren. Don't even watch that "Propaganda" it's just a means to a way of stirring up further hate, and discontent. Don't let other's cause you to be a participant to the overall problem.
Having said all of that, regardless of why we are doing what we are doing, i support our troops, i commend them for what they're doing. My sons have served in Iraq, the oldest doing 3 tours. I'm very proud of all of the U.S. Women & Men serving their country, regardless of whether they believe in what we're doing, that takes guts. God bless our troops.
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