kallend 2,150 #26 April 22, 2008 QuoteQuote Well, I understand that the comfort of millionaire ballplayers is far more important than media coverage the election of the leader of the free world. Frankly, yes. The number of reporters needed to cover her campaign could fit in a King Air. Above that, we get dozens of lackeys looking for a new story, and thus minor remarks (she's a monster, blah blah) get turned into big stories. It doesn't actually contribute anything to the bottom line (informed public) and wastes huge amounts of resources in the process. Well, that's your opinion. IMO, the entire NBA, NFL, NHL and major league baseball could all shut up shop forever and I wouldn't mind.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #27 April 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteWhile both planes are fundamentally similar, we're waiting for environmental groups to point out the MD-81 is also far less efficient than the newer-engined 717... The point is that Hillary Clinton is changing to a less efficient aircraft instead of a more efficient aircraft ... Do you have any comments regarding the point?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #28 April 22, 2008 Quote Well, that's your opinion. IMO, the entire NBA, NFL, NHL and major league baseball could all shut up shop forever and I wouldn't mind. You can get that - just move from Chicago to Nebraska. If the Huskers are too close to the NFL for you, stay away from Lincoln. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #29 April 22, 2008 QuoteThe point is that Hillary Clinton is changing to a less efficient aircraft instead of a more efficient aircraft ... What would be your choice.. given the criteria for all the candidates??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #30 April 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhile both planes are fundamentally similar, we're waiting for environmental groups to point out the MD-81 is also far less efficient than the newer-engined 717... The point is that Hillary Clinton is changing to a less efficient aircraft instead of a more efficient aircraft ... Do you have any comments regarding the point? Yes, it has yet to be shown that the MISSION is accomplished less efficiently. In fact if the number of reporters is now such that a second aircraft would have had to be chartered, the MISSION may be being accomplished more efficiently with the new aircraft. So until anyone comes up with actual data, I say you are all just being pissy for the sake of being pissy. And this would apply to Mccain's or Obama's jetliners too (since they each have jetliners, each haul lots of reporters around with them, and each have climate change amelioration planks in their platforms.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #31 April 22, 2008 QuoteQuote Well, that's your opinion. IMO, the entire NBA, NFL, NHL and major league baseball could all shut up shop forever and I wouldn't mind. You can get that - just move from Chicago to Nebraska. If the Huskers are too close to the NFL for you, stay away from Lincoln. How will my move to Nebraska affect the amount of fuel burned by the NFL, NHL, NBA and baseball?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #32 April 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuote Well, that's your opinion. IMO, the entire NBA, NFL, NHL and major league baseball could all shut up shop forever and I wouldn't mind. You can get that - just move from Chicago to Nebraska. If the Huskers are too close to the NFL for you, stay away from Lincoln. How will my move to Nebraska affect the amount of fuel burned by the NFL, NHL, NBA and baseball? You would no longer be troubled by other people's recreational preferences. Nor they with your's. Add obligatory comment about the 2000+ gallons of fuel you've wasted skydiving. Millions of people are entertained by their fuel use. Dozens (?) are entertained by your's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #33 April 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuote Well, that's your opinion. IMO, the entire NBA, NFL, NHL and major league baseball could all shut up shop forever and I wouldn't mind. You can get that - just move from Chicago to Nebraska. If the Huskers are too close to the NFL for you, stay away from Lincoln. How will my move to Nebraska affect the amount of fuel burned by the NFL, NHL, NBA and baseball? At least the members of the NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB have a positive effect on the economy. The same can't be said for the lying politicians.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #34 April 22, 2008 The point is that politicians who are telling us to change cars from less efficient ones to more efficient ones are changing their more efficient aircraft for less efficient aircraft. Have you ever even considered that you could attack all the candidates for being hypocrites instead of defending your candidate? Doubtful ... Quote So until anyone comes up with actual data, I say you are all just being pissy for the sake of being pissy. We are being pissy? I think you are being pissy ... "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #35 April 22, 2008 Quote The point is that politicians who are telling us to change cars from less efficient ones to more efficient ones are changing their more efficient aircraft for less efficient aircraft. Have you ever even considered that you could attack all the candidates for being hypocrites instead of defending your candidate? Doubtful ... Quote So until anyone comes up with actual data, I say you are all just being pissy for the sake of being pissy. We are being pissy? I think you are being pissy ... Hillary most certainly is NOT my candidate.However, until you come up with an analysis of the ACTUAL economics of the switch, counting ALL factors (such as the cost of moving the media if they overflow the eariler plane) you have NO basis for complaint. Since no-one has done that, you are just pissing in the wind.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #36 April 23, 2008 Quote Quote The point is that politicians who are telling us to change cars from less efficient ones to more efficient ones are changing their more efficient aircraft for less efficient aircraft. Have you ever even considered that you could attack all the candidates for being hypocrites instead of defending your candidate? Doubtful ... Quote So until anyone comes up with actual data, I say you are all just being pissy for the sake of being pissy. We are being pissy? I think you are being pissy ... Hillary most certainly is NOT my candidate.However, until you come up with an analysis of the ACTUAL economics of the switch, counting ALL factors (such as the cost of moving the media if they overflow the eariler plane) you have NO basis for complaint. IMO it doesn't matter how many reporters she can stuff in an airplane she travels with. It would speak more highly to the people if she limited the reporter entourage to the 100+ that fit in that 717. And tell the rest of them 'no'. Article: Why Campaign Reporters Travel in Packs ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #37 April 23, 2008 Quote Quote Quote The point is that politicians who are telling us to change cars from less efficient ones to more efficient ones are changing their more efficient aircraft for less efficient aircraft. Have you ever even considered that you could attack all the candidates for being hypocrites instead of defending your candidate? Doubtful ... Quote So until anyone comes up with actual data, I say you are all just being pissy for the sake of being pissy. We are being pissy? I think you are being pissy ... Hillary most certainly is NOT my candidate.However, until you come up with an analysis of the ACTUAL economics of the switch, counting ALL factors (such as the cost of moving the media if they overflow the eariler plane) you have NO basis for complaint. IMO it doesn't matter how many reporters she can stuff in an airplane she travels with. It would speak more highly to the people if she limited the reporter entourage to the 100+ that fit in that 717. And tell the rest of them 'no'. Article: Why Campaign Reporters Travel in Packs ltdiver Then "the rest of them" would make their own way if ordered to do so by their bosses - and use even MORE fuel. Sorry, your whining is without factual foundation.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #38 April 23, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote The point is that politicians who are telling us to change cars from less efficient ones to more efficient ones are changing their more efficient aircraft for less efficient aircraft. Have you ever even considered that you could attack all the candidates for being hypocrites instead of defending your candidate? Doubtful ... Quote So until anyone comes up with actual data, I say you are all just being pissy for the sake of being pissy. We are being pissy? I think you are being pissy ... Hillary most certainly is NOT my candidate.However, until you come up with an analysis of the ACTUAL economics of the switch, counting ALL factors (such as the cost of moving the media if they overflow the eariler plane) you have NO basis for complaint. IMO it doesn't matter how many reporters she can stuff in an airplane she travels with. It would speak more highly to the people if she limited the reporter entourage to the 100+ that fit in that 717. And tell the rest of them 'no'. Article: Why Campaign Reporters Travel in Packs ltdiver Then "the rest of them" would make their own way if ordered to do so by their bosses - and use even MORE fuel. Sorry, your whining is without factual foundation. How many reporters travel with Hillary? I'm pretty sure they all fit in the former aircraft. The only reason she 'upgraded' was for her own 'comfort'. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #39 April 23, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote The point is that politicians who are telling us to change cars from less efficient ones to more efficient ones are changing their more efficient aircraft for less efficient aircraft. Have you ever even considered that you could attack all the candidates for being hypocrites instead of defending your candidate? Doubtful ... Quote So until anyone comes up with actual data, I say you are all just being pissy for the sake of being pissy. We are being pissy? I think you are being pissy ... Hillary most certainly is NOT my candidate.However, until you come up with an analysis of the ACTUAL economics of the switch, counting ALL factors (such as the cost of moving the media if they overflow the eariler plane) you have NO basis for complaint. IMO it doesn't matter how many reporters she can stuff in an airplane she travels with. It would speak more highly to the people if she limited the reporter entourage to the 100+ that fit in that 717. And tell the rest of them 'no'. Article: Why Campaign Reporters Travel in Packs ltdiver Then "the rest of them" would make their own way if ordered to do so by their bosses - and use even MORE fuel. Sorry, your whining is without factual foundation. How many reporters travel with Hillary? I'm pretty sure they all fit in the former aircraft. The only reason she 'upgraded' was for her own 'comfort'. ltdiver You know this how? Because a clearly biased source said so?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #40 April 24, 2008 Seating capacity of the 717 = 106 Seating capacity of the MD81 = 142 of which many seats were removed to make more leg room 'for the NBA teams'. You do the math. Besides, they all fit on a bus and in a men's restroom! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #41 April 24, 2008 Quote Seating capacity of the 717 = 106 Seating capacity of the MD81 = 142 of which many seats were removed to make more leg room 'for the NBA teams'. You do the math. Besides, they all fit on a bus and in a men's restroom! ltdiver I think the politicians would be better if confined to the restroom, but that's just me.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #42 April 24, 2008 QuoteBesides, they all fit on a bus and in a men's restroom! How did we get onto the subject of talking about Republican extra curricular activities and wide stance locations... in a thread about Hillary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #43 April 24, 2008 Quote Quote Besides, they all fit on a bus and in a men's restroom! How did we get onto the subject of talking about Republican extra curricular activities and wide stance locations... in a thread about Hillary. It's where she stuffs her press. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #44 April 24, 2008 Quote It's where she stuffs her press. ltdiver Hmmm.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
