kallend 2,150 #26 April 16, 2008 QuoteI believe Dr. Rice and Gen. Powell were perhaps the two best choices Bush made for any of his Cabinet appointments. Sure! Who can forget Powell's speech on Iraq's WMDs to the UN in February 2003? It had everything: weaponized anthrax, ballistic missile sites, mobile bioweapons labs, chemical weapons depots, chemical warfare decontamination vehicles...... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #27 April 16, 2008 QuoteQuoteI believe Dr. Rice and Gen. Powell were perhaps the two best choices Bush made for any of his Cabinet appointments. Sure! Who can forget Powell's speech on Iraq's WMDs to the UN in February 2003? It had everything: weaponized anthrax, ballistic missile sites, mobile bioweapons labs, chemical weapons depots, chemical warfare decontamination vehicles... How many of those involved in the run up to the war have shown remorse? Gen. Powell has. How many of them tried to talk Bush out of invading Iraq? Gen. Powell tried very hard. Yes, in the end, he followed orders and gave the UN speech, but, imo, it was because he took seriously his commitment to serve at the pleasure of the President, and felt obligated to obey his boss, because the Office of the POTUS and the Cabinet position of Secretary of State are greater than any individual occupant of either.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #28 April 16, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteI believe Dr. Rice and Gen. Powell were perhaps the two best choices Bush made for any of his Cabinet appointments. Sure! Who can forget Powell's speech on Iraq's WMDs to the UN in February 2003? It had everything: weaponized anthrax, ballistic missile sites, mobile bioweapons labs, chemical weapons depots, chemical warfare decontamination vehicles... How many of those involved in the run up to the war have shown remorse? Gen. Powell has. How many of them tried to talk Bush out of invading Iraq? Gen. Powell tried very hard. Yes, in the end, he followed orders and gave the UN speech, but, imo, it was because he took seriously his commitment to serve at the pleasure of the President, and felt obligated to obey his boss, because the Office of the POTUS and the Cabinet position of Secretary of State are greater than any individual occupant of either. Which is why Powell is still respected by people from all over the political spectrum -- he did his job, realized he messed up by doing it, and got out of politics. Rice, instead, played an instrumental part in getting us into a war that didn't have to happen, then took a promotion to push a radical foreign policy that has isolated us. Therefore I disagree with your idea that Rice was one of the best appointments to Bush's cabinet. She has done a disastrous and disgraceful job by "following orders" for eight years. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #29 April 16, 2008 QuoteTherefore I disagree with your idea that Rice was one of the best appointments to Bush's cabinet. She has done a disastrous and disgraceful job by "following orders" for eight years. Okay, which appointments do you think were better?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #30 April 16, 2008 Quote Quote Therefore I disagree with your idea that Rice was one of the best appointments to Bush's cabinet. She has done a disastrous and disgraceful job by "following orders" for eight years. Okay, which appointments do you think were better? [waving white flag] I see your point. You got me there. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thesaint 0 #31 April 18, 2008 She would NEVER get my vote,....NEVER!!!!! "If a thousand people agree on a dumb ideal, it's STILL a dumb ideal." Skully Bro #1 - POPS# 10440 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites