SpeedRacer 1 #1 March 31, 2008 http://www.lewrockwell.com/reese/reese442.html Charlie Reese doesn't think so. Combine McCain's muddle-headed confusion about Shiite vs. Sunni Muslims, with his chumminess with Armageddon death cult fundamentalists (Hagee), and I'm starting to fear a McCain presidency more & more. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #2 March 31, 2008 Right now, I have no idea which way I'm gonna go. This election is a true case of having to vote for the least revolting nominee. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #3 March 31, 2008 Quote This election is a true case of having to vote for the least revolting nominee. Isn't that typically the case? I can think of a few DZ.commers that I would much rather see in the White House than any of the three that have a reasonable chance of winning in November.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #4 March 31, 2008 I will be VERY VERY interested to see who he chooses as a running mate.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #5 March 31, 2008 Black football players will be the first to "accidently" disappear under a McCain administration. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #6 March 31, 2008 None of the 3 are fit... what are you lot thinking about? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #7 March 31, 2008 What constitutes politics nowadays? Take a miniscule piece of a person's life and explode it as an indication that that's the way the person is. One thing about John McCain - NOBODY knows what the fucking guy is thinking. He is yet another who has never floated trial balloons. The best example of McCain is the fear that Dole's campaigners had of him. Dole immensely respected McCain because of McCain's honesty. But McCain thinks for himself and is not a dogmatic guy. It's why the Limbaughs don't like him - because he toes no line for anybody. Is he fit? Absolutely. He's the sort of guy who I think would have no problem pissing off anyone. In other words, a guy who will say, "No." My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #8 March 31, 2008 Imo, yes. (Doesn't mean I concur w/ or am non-concur w/any/all/some/none of his positions. It is my opinion w/r/t "fitness" for office of Executive.) VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,112 #9 March 31, 2008 > Imo, yes. Agreed. The only minor issue is the "natural born citizen" constitutional provision for presidential eligibility - but I am pretty confident that the courts will determine that he meets that requirement. The other "fitness" questions - his age, his seeming memory loss on issues like the USSR and the Sunni vs Shia issue - are issues for the voters to decide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #10 March 31, 2008 Quote Quote This election is a true case of having to vote for the least revolting nominee. Isn't that typically the case? I can think of a few DZ.commers that I would much rather see in the White House than any of the three that have a reasonable chance of winning in November. You can write-me-in in November if you really want to...Sen. McCain doesn't light my fire so much either, but I am so fundamentally opposed to the politics of Sens. Obama and Clinton....So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #11 March 31, 2008 Quote Sen. McCain doesn't light my fire so much either, but I am so fundamentally opposed to the politics of Sens. Obama and Clinton.... Same here. As I tremble typing this, I will admit that I believe Clinton would make a better president than Obama. He may talk a good talk, but the experience is just not there. It's like promoting the janitor to CEO. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #12 April 1, 2008 Quote Quote Sen. McCain doesn't light my fire so much either, but I am so fundamentally opposed to the politics of Sens. Obama and Clinton.... Same here. As I tremble typing this, I will admit that I believe Clinton would make a better president than Obama. He may talk a good talk, but the experience is just not there. It's like promoting the janitor to CEO. CLinton made a good president - a governor from Arkansas with no national legislative or executive experience. Reagan made a good president - a governor from California with no national legislative or executive experience. From Reagan's Second debate: Quote REPORTER: Mr. President, I want to raise an issue that I think has been lurking out there for two or three weeks, and cast it specifically in national security terms. You already are the oldest President in history, and some of your staff say you were tired after your most recent encounter with Mr. Mondale. I recall, yes, that President Kennedy, who had to go for days on end with very little sleep during the Cuba missile crisis. Is there any doubt in your mind that you would be able to function in such circumstances? REAGAN: Not at all, Mr. Trewhitt and I want you to know that also I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. An all-time classic! And note that "youth and inexperience" meant 56 years old and four years as Vice President. That's "spin." But Reagan was funny with his. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #13 April 1, 2008 Quote You can write-me-in in November if you really want to... So when are we going to start getting position papers? VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #14 April 1, 2008 Quote Sen. McCain doesn't light my fire so much either, but I am so fundamentally opposed to the politics of Sens. Obama and Clinton.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Same here. As I tremble typing this, I will admit that I believe Clinton would make a better president than Obama. He may talk a good talk, but the experience is just not there. It's like promoting the janitor to CEO. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CLinton made a good president - a governor from Arkansas with no national legislative or executive experience. Reagan made a good president - a governor from California with no national legislative or executive experience. From Reagan's Second debate: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REPORTER: Mr. President, I want to raise an issue that I think has been lurking out there for two or three weeks, and cast it specifically in national security terms. You already are the oldest President in history, and some of your staff say you were tired after your most recent encounter with Mr. Mondale. I recall, yes, that President Kennedy, who had to go for days on end with very little sleep during the Cuba missile crisis. Is there any doubt in your mind that you would be able to function in such circumstances? REAGAN: Not at all, Mr. Trewhitt and I want you to know that also I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An all-time classic! And note that "youth and inexperience" meant 56 years old and four years as Vice President. That's "spin." But Reagan was funny with his. I love it!!!I do remember that debate very well, but thanks Jerry for posting it. It truly was a classic. BTW: That was the first presidential election that I was old enough to vote in. The choice was quite easy and my pick won 49 states. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1888 0 #15 April 1, 2008 McCain is a true American hero. Read some books about him and his trials as a POW. He has balls the size of anyone in this country, and thats what we need. He has experience of many years of serving this country unlike our past two presidents, a draft dodger and a cheerleader. This may well be the last President we will have who comes to power with the experience of combat in his background. How many up and coming politicians today have been in the military? He is afraid of nothing, has a mind of his own and will restore our country when elected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #16 April 1, 2008 I'm with you. I like presidents who have been fighter pilots. I just hope he will keep congress from raising taxes, make them balance the budget, build the fence, shrink the Fed gov, start with some kind of fix for Social Security, start a re-re-education campaign to teach our young Americans that the government is not the answer to ANY problem, and pass the FairTax. Tall order, huh. Any of these guys, and any of us, can mis-speak or buffoon a few words. But, I do think Hagee would make a great running mate.The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #17 April 1, 2008 QuoteI just hope he will keep congress from raising taxes … start with some kind of fix for Social Security… Are you in favor of reducing Social Security benefits?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #18 April 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteI just hope he will keep congress from raising taxes … start with some kind of fix for Social Security… Are you in favor of reducing Social Security benefits? The benefit as it is now cannot be sustained. The program was never meant as a retirement program, it was meant to be a supplement only. Social Security will be insolvent by 2015.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #19 April 1, 2008 QuoteThe benefit as it is now cannot be sustained. True. Of course, right now, a small tax increase could change that. QuoteThe program was never meant as a retirement program, it was meant to be a supplement only. Also true. However, only 20 percent of elderly households rely solely on Social Security for their income. Unfortunately, only about 36 percent of elderly Americans receive less than 50 percent of their income from Social Security. QuoteSocial Security will be insolvent by 2015. Not true. SS taxes are anticipated to be exceeded by SS benefits in 2017. Best estimates suggest that in 2041, 100 percent of currently scheduled benefits will no longer be payable due to trust fund exhaustion, and benefits will be reduced to 75 percent. The fact remains that current benefits are not sustainable at current tax rates, and the longer we wait to address the issue, the greater the cost to fix it. Source: Presentation given by Dr. Robert L. Brown, Director, Institute of Insurance and Pension Research, University of Waterloo January 8, 2008, Orlando, Florida.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TankBuster 0 #20 April 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteI just hope he will keep congress from raising taxes … start with some kind of fix for Social Security… Are you in favor of reducing Social Security benefits? The benefit as it is now cannot be sustained. The program was never meant as a retirement program, it was meant to be a supplement only. Social Security will be insolvent by 2015. Something has to be done. It's simple math, and it will take more than a "small" tax increase. Honestly, even after all the money I've paid into the greatest ponzi scheme of all time, I'd give mine up if there were some assurance the program would be phased out. Trouble is, no one on the hill is willing to take the issue on. When it runs into a brick wall, the fecal heads will just point backwards and say "they should have done something." President Bush tried to get Congress moving on this one. Let me save Kallend some trouble. Bush is a liar! That lying liar. And the lies he tells!The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #21 April 1, 2008 Of course, your country would have far more money to spend on it's citizens health and social issues (and pay off it's massive debt) if it didn't waste so much sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong, in other people countries. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #22 April 1, 2008 QuoteSomething has to be done. It's simple math, and it will take more than a "small" tax increase. Honestly, even after all the money I've paid into the greatest ponzi scheme of all time, I'd give mine up if there were some assurance the program would be phased out. I'm in agreement. One generation or another is going to have to step up and take it on the chin. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if it happened today. I just don't want to pay in for another ten to fifteen years, and be told, "Sorry." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #23 April 1, 2008 QuoteIt's simple math, and it will take more than a "small" tax increase. The mathematics is relatively simple, but if we take action now, a small tax increase is all that is necessary. The longer we wait, the bigger the required tax increase will be. QuotePresident Bush tried to get Congress moving on this one. Do you really believe Bush would sign a bill raising taxes? His method of operation has thus far been to cut taxes and increase government spending. I'm pretty sure simple maths is not one of his strengths.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #24 April 1, 2008 Quote Of course, your country would have far more money to spend on it's citizens health and social issues (and pay off it's massive debt) if it didn't waste so much sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong, in other people countries. Thank you Captain Obvious. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #25 April 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe benefit as it is now cannot be sustained.[/reply[ True. Of course, right now, a small tax increase could change that. Raising taxes is never a solution to anything. QuoteQuoteSocial Security will be insolvent by 2015. Not true. SS taxes are anticipated to be exceeded by SS benefits in 2017. Best estimates suggest that in 2041, 100 percent of currently scheduled benefits will no longer be payable due to trust fund exhaustion, and benefits will be reduced to 75 percent. Under the "current" conditions, correct. However, the Board of Trustees for SSI and Medicare just sounded another warning. I was off by a couple years, once the baby-boomers are in full-swing retirement, SSI will begin negative flow as early as 2017. http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=85749 QuoteThe fact remains that current benefits are not sustainable at current tax rates, and the longer we wait to address the issue, the greater the cost to fix it. This is why we (as a nation) should be kicking ourselves for at least not allowing a partial privatization of Social Security withholding. The return I could get, as an individual, by saving $50/month, for 30 years is so much better, it makes financial sense to abandon SSI completely. Use any financial calculator, saving $50/month for a 20 year old, retiring at age 70. Using mutual fund tools, average rate of return ~8%. All without the government's help. Amazing. That's $400K in the bank. That doesn't account for inflation either. Sh*t....with SSI's performance, crazy negative return and Medicare barely holding on, why would anyone want the government to handle healthcare?So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 1 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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TankBuster 0 #20 April 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteI just hope he will keep congress from raising taxes … start with some kind of fix for Social Security… Are you in favor of reducing Social Security benefits? The benefit as it is now cannot be sustained. The program was never meant as a retirement program, it was meant to be a supplement only. Social Security will be insolvent by 2015. Something has to be done. It's simple math, and it will take more than a "small" tax increase. Honestly, even after all the money I've paid into the greatest ponzi scheme of all time, I'd give mine up if there were some assurance the program would be phased out. Trouble is, no one on the hill is willing to take the issue on. When it runs into a brick wall, the fecal heads will just point backwards and say "they should have done something." President Bush tried to get Congress moving on this one. Let me save Kallend some trouble. Bush is a liar! That lying liar. And the lies he tells!The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #21 April 1, 2008 Of course, your country would have far more money to spend on it's citizens health and social issues (and pay off it's massive debt) if it didn't waste so much sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong, in other people countries. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #22 April 1, 2008 QuoteSomething has to be done. It's simple math, and it will take more than a "small" tax increase. Honestly, even after all the money I've paid into the greatest ponzi scheme of all time, I'd give mine up if there were some assurance the program would be phased out. I'm in agreement. One generation or another is going to have to step up and take it on the chin. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if it happened today. I just don't want to pay in for another ten to fifteen years, and be told, "Sorry." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #23 April 1, 2008 QuoteIt's simple math, and it will take more than a "small" tax increase. The mathematics is relatively simple, but if we take action now, a small tax increase is all that is necessary. The longer we wait, the bigger the required tax increase will be. QuotePresident Bush tried to get Congress moving on this one. Do you really believe Bush would sign a bill raising taxes? His method of operation has thus far been to cut taxes and increase government spending. I'm pretty sure simple maths is not one of his strengths.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #24 April 1, 2008 Quote Of course, your country would have far more money to spend on it's citizens health and social issues (and pay off it's massive debt) if it didn't waste so much sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong, in other people countries. Thank you Captain Obvious. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #25 April 1, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe benefit as it is now cannot be sustained.[/reply[ True. Of course, right now, a small tax increase could change that. Raising taxes is never a solution to anything. QuoteQuoteSocial Security will be insolvent by 2015. Not true. SS taxes are anticipated to be exceeded by SS benefits in 2017. Best estimates suggest that in 2041, 100 percent of currently scheduled benefits will no longer be payable due to trust fund exhaustion, and benefits will be reduced to 75 percent. Under the "current" conditions, correct. However, the Board of Trustees for SSI and Medicare just sounded another warning. I was off by a couple years, once the baby-boomers are in full-swing retirement, SSI will begin negative flow as early as 2017. http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=85749 QuoteThe fact remains that current benefits are not sustainable at current tax rates, and the longer we wait to address the issue, the greater the cost to fix it. This is why we (as a nation) should be kicking ourselves for at least not allowing a partial privatization of Social Security withholding. The return I could get, as an individual, by saving $50/month, for 30 years is so much better, it makes financial sense to abandon SSI completely. Use any financial calculator, saving $50/month for a 20 year old, retiring at age 70. Using mutual fund tools, average rate of return ~8%. All without the government's help. Amazing. That's $400K in the bank. That doesn't account for inflation either. Sh*t....with SSI's performance, crazy negative return and Medicare barely holding on, why would anyone want the government to handle healthcare?So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 1 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
