Obama is an outright LIAR

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How did you guys get into the position that none of the candidates is suitable?... Is there a way out? or is one of these 3 clowns going to be running your country soon?

You only need one good one out of 301,139,947, how hard can that be?

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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How did you guys get into the position that none of the candidates is suitable?... Is there a way out? or is one of these 3 clowns going to be running your country soon?

You only need one good one out of 301,139,947, how hard can that be?

Good point. But that one person has to be able to raise at least a quarter of a billion dollars to even ante up to the game. It's a flawed system that's not that far removed from monarchical inbreeding.

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From his speech here in Philly:

While Obama rejected what Wright said, he also embraced the man who inspired his Christian faith, officiated at his wedding, baptized his daughters and has been his spiritual guide for nearly 20 years.

"I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community," Obama said, speaking in front of eight American flags. "I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother — a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

Obama said he knew Wright to occasionally be a fierce critic of U.S. policy and that the pastor sometimes made controversially remarks in church that he disagreed with, but he said he never heard Wright talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms. The comments that have become a source of debate recently "were not only wrong but divisive" and have raised questions among voters, he said.

"I confess that if all that I knew of Reverend Wright were the snippets of those sermons that have run in an endless loop on the television and YouTube, or if Trinity United Church of Christ conformed to the caricatures being peddled by some commentators, there is no doubt that I would react in much the same way," he said. "But the truth is, that isn't all that I know of the man."

It really isn't a black and white issue. Pardon the pun. But he certainly doesn't seem to be LYING.

Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi

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I'm not sure if you were replying to me or if I was just the "chosen one" for your post. The only "lying" that I referred to was McCain's break with reality in Iraq.
Thanks for posting the quote. I think Obama's dealt with the issue pretty well. His detractors will no doubt carve a fractured sentence or two and beat it to crap in an effort to make him look like a baby eating America hater. I'll tune in to Hannity in a few hours to see what people will be "thinking" tomorrow.

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I'll tune in to Hannity in a few hours to see what people will be "thinking" tomorrow.

Because, of course, anyone who doesn't think like you doesn't think at all.

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Seems to work for mnealtx.

Every time a gay republican is outed... he dredges up some 30 year old shit that Democrats do it to.

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Look in the mirror lately, m'dear? Denigrating all due to the actions of one seems to be more *your* forte, not mine.

My mirror is showing you in the corner in the background... digging endlessly thru old news to counter current events

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Because, of course, anyone who doesn't think like you doesn't think at all.

Not true. I have no problem with people who think for themselves. They make for interesting conversation. I already know what I think so having it repeated to me is pretty boring.

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Not true. I have no problem with people who think for themselves.

Fine, but your comment made me think you think otherwise.

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I already know what I think so having it repeated to me is pretty boring.

I for one enjoy reading what you think.

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Sorry. My post was not a reply directed to you.

Good response, though.

Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi

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Fine, but your comment made me think you think otherwise.

Well I can be rather sarcastic and cynical and admittedly I did mean it as you thought I meant it. It just wasn't intended to be a blanket statement. I had just finished watching something about the right wing noise machine. The graphics are a bit over the top but if you just pay attention to the clips and dates it does a good job of showing how character assassinating non issues can be cultivated on FOX and are picked up as the theme du jour by the rest of the brain dead sell-a-thon that is the rest of the media.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjvNSpsPu1k

It all boils down to what sells airtime. Market driven news is one of the biggest problems this country faces in my opinion.

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Market driven news is one of the biggest problems this country faces in my opinion.

Yep, and the root of the problem is the brain-dead masses you're referring to. I don't see that changing.

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Transcript.

Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

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I see a problem that some self loathing white folks are far too eager to give Obama a pass, and conclude that he is telling the truth that he has never heard his pastor utter racist remarks.

Hmmm.....never heard them but yet that pastor has been doing exactly that for over 20yrs.

Obama says he embraces that pastor, attends that church, and continues to worship there.

How about another quote from the Pastor?

"Hillary never had a cab whizz past her and not pick her up because her skin was the wrong color. Hillary never had to worry about being pulled over in her car as a black man driving in the wrong…

I am sick of Negroes who just do not get it!

Hillary was not a black boy raised in a single-parent home. Barack was! Barack knows what it means to be a black man livin’ in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people! Hillary can never know that!"

Yep Barak Obamas poor single mom had to raise him with his POS father who skipped out on him.

That has to be the fault of white america, because they forced Baraks dad to flee hi parental obligations.

The problem is that Baraks mom is white, so who left here struggling with a son as a single parent without any support?

His father!!!

I will say it again in case it does not sink in


His Dad, a black man skipped out on him, and yet it is white americas fault???

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I see a problem that some self loathing white folks are far too eager to give Obama a pass, and conclude that he is telling the truth that he has never heard his pastor utter racist remarks.

Some of us non church going white folks just don't care what his pastor says, short of Kill Whitey!

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someone that votes the constituents will, upholds the constitution, keeps their word,

Note - the will of the constituents is not always in line with the Constitution. Furthermore, a person who openly says that he/she will go with the Constitution over their will won't get elected.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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someone that votes the constituents will, upholds the constitution, keeps their word,

Note - the will of the constituents is not always in line with the Constitution. Furthermore, a person who openly says that he/she will go with the Constitution over their will won't get elected.

All the aforementioned has it's place in the rule of law, and in the excecute branch, as well as the legislative.

It is not an either or propostion, but rather it demands that both be observed. (constitution taking precedence) unless there is legistalition repealing the amendment in question.

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Well I can be rather sarcastic and cynical and admittedly I did mean it as you thought I meant it. It just wasn't intended to be a blanket statement. I had just finished watching something about the right wing noise machine. The graphics are a bit over the top but if you just pay attention to the clips and dates it does a good job of showing how character assassinating non issues can be cultivated on FOX and are picked up as the theme du jour by the rest of the brain dead sell-a-thon that is the rest of the media.

I hope you aren't saying this is a one way street. As I recall, several anchor people refused to call GWB by his official title for several months.

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I'm not sure if you were replying to me or if I was just the "chosen one" for your post. The only "lying" that I referred to was McCain's break with reality in Iraq.
Thanks for posting the quote. I think Obama's dealt with the issue pretty well. His detractors will no doubt carve a fractured sentence or two and beat it to crap in an effort to make him look like a baby eating America hater. I'll tune in to Hannity in a few hours to see what people will be "thinking" tomorrow.

Obama "dealt" with nothing. He basicly said we cant help what we are. Niether can he but he is the one to fix it.

Race baiting at its best, and you bought into it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Race baiting at its best

You listened to the entire speech and your conclusion was that he was race baiting? Seriously, wow. You are in another universe.

Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..."

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Race baiting at its best

You listened to the entire speech and your conclusion was that he was race baiting? Seriously, wow. You are in another universe.

Yes, a universe of reality.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Race baiting at its best

You listened to the entire speech and your conclusion was that he was race baiting? Seriously, wow. You are in another universe.

Yes, a universe of reality.

You really have me intrigued... I want to know how you think he was race baiting. But lets define terms first: "race baiting" is when you try to set two or more races against each other.

So, first: how he was race baiting? Then, second: why is it in his advantage to race bait?

Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..."

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Race baiting at its best

You listened to the entire speech and your conclusion was that he was race baiting? Seriously, wow. You are in another universe.

Yes, a universe of reality.

You really have me intrigued... I want to know how you think he was race baiting. But lets define terms first: "race baiting" is when you try to set two or more races against each other.

So, first: how he was race baiting? Then, second: why is it in his advantage to race bait?

I can go into an answer fist but, if you will allow me please, do the following first.

Google the news for "race baiting". See what is said and what examples are givin, used and reported. Apply what you may learn (anc conclude) to what Obama is saying. And, you need to do this through the whole speach not just excerpts. Post back your conclusions. This will give us a common place to start from

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>Yet kept attending the church anyway, knowing the pastor's views.

He had not heard his more extreme views, the ones on the DVDs that get the four-second sound bites in the media.

You can buy the DVD entotal from the churchs website. Give it a shot

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I hope you aren't saying this is a one way street. As I recall, several anchor people refused to call GWB by his official title for several months.

Did FOX follow their lead? What I think that video does well is show how right wing "entertainment", due to both its volume and volume, gets picked up by the rest of the media as topics for national discussion.
Again I'll ask, why are Wright's comments so newsworthy and Hagee's comments no big deal?