Obama is an outright LIAR

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Obama claimed today that he had never heard the good Pastor Wright make the inflammatory racist & anti-American comments that are making the rounds in the media.

I guess Obama flat out forgot that he referenced that particular sermon (or one of many just like it) in his FIRST BOOK... ""Dreams of My Father"



The title of Reverend Wright’s sermon that morning was “The Audacity of Hope.” He began with a passage from the Book of Samuel—the story of Hannah, who, barren and taunted by her rivals, had wept and shaken in prayer before her God. The story reminded him, he said, of a sermon a fellow pastor had preached at a conference some years before, in which the pastor described going to a museum and being confronted by a painting title Hope.

“The painting depicts a harpist,” Reverend Wright explained, “a woman who at first glance appears to be sitting atop a great mountain. Until you take a closer look and see that the woman is bruised and bloodied, dressed in tattered rags, the harp reduced to a single frayed string. Your eye is then drawn down to the scene below, down to the valley below, where everywhere are the ravages of famine, the drumbeat of war, a world groaning under strife and deprivation.

“It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where white folks’ greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere…That’s the world! On which hope sits!”

And so it went, a meditation on a fallen world. While the boys next to me doodled on their church bulletin, Reverend Wright spoke of Sharpsville and Hiroshima, the callousness of policy makers in the White House and in the State House. As the sermon unfolded, though, the stories of strife became more prosaic, the pain more immediate. The reverend spoke of the hardship that the congregation would face tomorrow, the pain of those far from the mountaintop, worrying about paying the light bill…



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Obama claimed today that he had never heard the good Pastor Wright make the inflammatory racist & anti-American comments that are making the rounds in the media.

Do you have a url where I can see this for myself?

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[beowulf 1]

umm Politician = Liar

I am sorry that's not entirely true.

Politician = Professional Liar

Much more accurate.

[warpedskydiver 0]

Try:
Washington Post
CBS News
Fox News
Yahoo
Herald

I guess those are not mainstream enough for you to have heard his disavowment?

You could even type "Obama Disavows Pastor's Remarks" into a search engine of your choice.

So far we have him saying that he was suprised and shocked that Tony Rezko was doing something illegal, of course that started off with him saying that he did not believe it

(Rezko was Obama's biggest fund raiser, and the largest fundraiser for our corrupt Gov. Blojobabitch)

It seems that we once again have someone corrupt running for POTUS, ad nobody seems to mind.

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Thank God we have someone in office now that we can trust.

T.I.N.S.

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Thank God we have someone in office now that we can trust.

That makes anyone else that is corrupt ok huh?

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It's your claim. If the information is as easy to come by as you say it is, then you should be able to provide a simple link to a quote.

That's all I'm asking for.

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Obama Condemns Pastor's Fiery Remarks

WASHINGTON, March 14, 2008

(CBS/AP) Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Friday denounced inflammatory remarks from his pastor, who has railed against the United States and accused its leaders of bringing on the Sept. 11 attacks by spreading terrorism.

As video of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has widely aired on television and the Internet, Obama responded by posting a blog about his relationship with Wright and his church, Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ, on the Huffington Post.

Obama wrote that he's looked to Wright for spiritual advice, not political guidance, and he's been pained and angered to learn of some of his pastor's comments for which he had not been present. Obama's statement did not say whether Wright would remain on his African American Religious Leadership Committee, and campaign officials wouldn't say either.

"I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies," Obama said. "I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Reverend Wright that are at issue."

In a sermon on the Sunday after the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, Wright suggested the United States brought on the attacks.

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Wright said. "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost."

In a 2003 sermon, he said blacks should condemn the United States.

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

He also gave a sermon in December comparing Obama to Jesus, promoting his candidacy and playing down Clinton.

Questions about Obama's religious beliefs have dogged him throughout his candidacy. He's had to fight against false Internet rumors suggesting he's really a Muslim intent on destroying the United States, and now his pastor's words uttered nearly seven years ago have become an issue.

Obama wrote on the Huffington Post that he never heard Wright say any of the statements that are "so contrary to my own life and beliefs," but they have raised legitimate questions about the nature of his relationship with the pastor and the church.

He explained that he joined Wright's church, Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, nearly 20 years ago.

Wright officiated at Obama's wedding and the baptism of his children, reports CBS News correspondent Dean Reynolds.

Obama said he knew Wright as a former Marine and respected biblical scholar who lectured at seminaries across the country.

"Reverend Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life," he wrote. "... And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn."

He said Wright's controversial statements first came to his attention at the beginning of his presidential campaign last year, and he condemned them. Because of his ties to the 6,000-member church, Obama decided not to leave the congregation.

Obama also has credited Wright with delivering a sermon that he adopted as the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope."

"With Reverend Wright's retirement and the ascension of my new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss, III, Michelle and I look forward to continuing a relationship with a church that has done so much good," he wrote.

Also Friday, the United Church of Christ issued a 1,400-word statement defending Wright and his "flagship" congregation. John H. Thomas, United Church of Christ's president, lauded Wright's church for its community service and work to nurture youth. Other church leaders praised Wright for speaking out against homophobia and sexism in the black community.

"It's time for all of us to say no to these attacks and to declare that we will not allow anyone to undermine or destroy the ministries of any of our congregations in order to serve their own narrow political or ideological ends," Thomas said in the statement.



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http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/17/report-places-obama-at-controversial-july-07-wright-sermon-official-schedule-places-him-in-miami/

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Barack Obama issued a firm denial Monday to a report that he was in church in Chicago last July when his controversial pastor delivered an anti-white sermon.

Doubts were cast on the story Monday as records showed the Democratic presidential contender was in Miami that day.

On the “fact check” portion of Obama’s campaign Web site, the campaign states: “Fact: Obama Did Not Attend Services on July 22.”

Click here to see the denial on Obama’s Web site.

Reports circulated over the weekend that Obama had attended the fiery sermon that day by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. But a copy of Obama’s schedule viewed by FOX News as well as video of Obama speaking appear to place him in Miami that day at a convention of the National Council of La Raza.

Owned by Remi #?

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You might want to reread that again and also look up the definition of the word "liar".

Denouncing and lying are two completely different things.

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[jakee 1,596]

Um, dude? None of the Pastor's quotes in your CBS/AP link are the same as the quotes from Obama's book in your first post.

So, why is he a liar?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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So, why is he a liar?

Appearantly, because someone claimed he was over the weekend and the facts weren't out until today.

He never claimed to be unaware of the comments, he claimed not to be present when they were made and he's been public about disagreeing with them.

Owned by Remi #?

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umm Politician = Liar

I am sorry that's not entirely true.

Politician = Professional Liar

Much more accurate.

Politicians are scum

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[skydyvr 0]

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. . . he claimed not to be present when they were made and he's been public about disagreeing with them.

Yet kept attending the church anyway, knowing the pastor's views.

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That makes anyone else that is corrupt ok huh?

Seems to work for mnealtx.

Every time a gay republican is outed... he dredges up some 30 year old shit that Democrats do it to.

[SpeedRacer 1]

Has Obama gotten a blowjob yet?

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[billvon 3,120]

>Yet kept attending the church anyway, knowing the pastor's views.

He had not heard his more extreme views, the ones on the DVDs that get the four-second sound bites in the media.

[billvon 3,120]

> Has Obama gotten a blowjob yet?

No - but I hear that the Swift Preachers are organizing some opposition and claiming he's a church criminal!

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>Yet kept attending the church anyway, knowing the pastor's views.

He had not heard his more extreme views, the ones on the DVDs that get the four-second sound bites in the media.

Good. I hope this event does not do Obama in. In a race between he and McCain, I'm most certainly still undecided.

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Yet kept attending the church anyway, knowing the pastor's views.

He had not heard his more extreme views, the ones on the DVDs that get the four-second sound bites in the media.

Quite possibly true, but one can't say with certainty either way.

Given he's been attending the Reverend's sermons for 20 years, the Reverend married Obama & his wife & baptised their children, it would be a helluva coincidence this is the first Obama has heard the more"extreme views" of Wright.

(Not directed at any one in particular:) Please spare me the argument by analogy. I'm partial to that myself, but this thread is full of really bad ones.

Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

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Yet kept attending the church anyway, knowing the pastor's views.

And he's made it clear that he disagrees with those views. What's the problem? Who's Pat Robertson endorsing this year, anyway?

Owned by Remi #?

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And he's made it clear that he disagrees with those views. What's the problem?

Would you attend a church who's pastor you disagreed with?

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Would you attend a church who's pastor you disagreed with?

I don't know. I don't believe in going to church.

Would I attend the 700 club? Hell no, too many points of disagreement. Would I go someplace where most, but not all the pastor's beliefs were similar to mine? Probably. Fat chance I'd find one though.

Owned by Remi #?

[billvon 3,120]

>Would you attend a church who's pastor you disagreed with?

I did. I remember once getting into an argument with one of the priests (Father Perry if I recall correctly) about his take on the nature of humanity after he mentioned a song lyric during the sermon one Sunday. I actually wrote him a letter, and he answered, and we went back and forth a few times before I gave up. I thought he didn't "get it" at all.

But for me (and for most people I think) the people in the church, and the community it forms, are more important than what the guy in the funny robes says.

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But for me (and for most people I think) the people in the church, and the community it forms, are more important than what the guy in the funny robes says.

Now, that's ironic.

Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.