Thanatos340 1 #26 March 17, 2008 QuoteGuilt by association - it's The American Way In this case, Obama CHOSE to be follower of this person and a member of this congregation. Judging a person based on the groups they CHOOSE to be a member of is sometimes justified. This all is very sad for the American people in my opinion. I beleive that it will be the end of Obama which is not something I am happy about at all. It means that the Hildabeast will be our next President. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #27 March 17, 2008 Quotehttp://www.salon.com/.../28/hagee/index.html McCain & Hagee Sittin' in a tree.... "The little boat gently drifted across the pond exactly the way a bowling ball wouldn't."Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #28 March 17, 2008 QuoteIt means that the Hildabeast will be our next President. Not so sure about that, since the general concensus seems to be that Obama has (or had) a much better chance of defeating McCain than Hillary does. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #29 March 17, 2008 >This all is very sad for the American people in my opinion. I don't think so. Both the Clinton campaign and the GOP is throwing everything they've got at him now, just to see what sticks. The "madrasa" thing was going to destroy him. Then his middle name was. They didn't work. This one will fade away as well, especially given the skeletons in the other candidate's closets. There will be more attacks like this, make no mistake. People have already been attacking his status as a single-parent child, as being "uppity" and as having delusions of grandeur. If any of those get any traction, the media will be full of them and someone will predict "oh, well, he'll never get the nomination now. I mean, that preacher thing was silly. But THIS!" Politics as usual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #30 March 17, 2008 I agree. my point before was that McCain getting chummy with Hagee is at least as bad, if not worse. Pastor Wright is just a racist asshole, but Hagee is actually preaching nuclear war vs. Iran. Hagee is a bigot and a theo-fascist with dangerous Armageddon fantasies. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #31 March 17, 2008 >my point before was that McCain getting chummy with Hagee is at least as >bad, if not worse. Perhaps. But for me, what candidates say themselves is more important than what their friends say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #32 March 17, 2008 QuoteBut for me, what candidates say themselves is more important than what their friends say. Agreed. Except, I do find it curious when it's a particularly involved-with friend, spouse or similar.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #33 March 18, 2008 It seems to me that his message, and those of MLK are opposite of each other. Let's hope Wright isn't right, because I'd sure hate to have to change the names of all of the streets, again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #34 March 18, 2008 QuoteYep it’s all over the radio but I do the same thing I usually do when I hear stuff like this. I shake my head and wonder if most of the population is retarded. WHO CARES. As already mentioned you can not hold him responsible for what others say. Also don’t we have a president who talks to god? Haven’t we learned what the mentality of "with us or against us has done"? The other thing they get him on is his wife saying she has never been proud of America. Once again the sheep seem to forget that the most patriotic people are the ones who can criticize their country to make it better. Blind faith and devotion can kill or hurt the very thing you love. We don’t even have to look at old history to see examples and consequences all we have to look at is the last 8 years. The reality is we have a lot of stupid people and unfortunately they can vote. So they know that any one with a brain can research and find out that Barrack Obama is not a Muslim, but they counting on the sheep who still believe the guy is a Muslim. Which by the way judging him for being a Muslim EVEN IF HE WAS would be unpatriotic and unconstitutional. Uhh, this has nothing to do as to wether he is a mulim or not. It has everything to do with wether he is a bigot, hate monger and more"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #35 March 18, 2008 QuoteQuoteGuilt by association - it's The American Way In this case, Obama CHOSE to be follower of this person and a member of this congregation. Judging a person based on the groups they CHOOSE to be a member of is sometimes justified. This all is very sad for the American people in my opinion. I beleive that it will be the end of Obama which is not something I am happy about at all. It means that the Hildabeast will be our next President. You had better take a closer look at what actully has happened here. Demunderground.com or the lefty web sites are not giving you a clear pictrure."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #36 March 18, 2008 QuoteWhich by the way judging him for being a Muslim EVEN IF HE WAS would be unpatriotic and unconstitutional. As opposed to.... QuoteAlso, don't we have a president who talks to God?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #37 March 18, 2008 >As opposed to.... >>Also, don't we have a president who talks to God? If a Muslim claimed Allah talked to him directly and told him what to do, then yes - the two would be comparable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites