TrophyHusband 0 #1 March 5, 2008 now that the republican nomination is taken care of, should republicans re-register as dems to vote for hillary? is there something dishonest about it? is it a legal way of fixing the election? i don't think i can do it just on the off-chance that she did win the primary and the general, i would feel resonsible for helping her get to the white house. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 March 5, 2008 I've been hearing a lot of talk about helping keep Sen. Clinton alive in the primaries, to keep the democrats bickering. However, I wonder if it might have been better to get one or the other out of the picture, to better prepare for the national election.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #3 March 5, 2008 Quotenow that the republican nomination is taken care of, should republicans re-register as dems to vote for hillary? is there something dishonest about it? is it a legal way of fixing the election? i don't think i can do it just on the off-chance that she did win the primary and the general, i would feel resonsible for helping her get to the white house.If you have an open chance to get the queen off of the board, do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #4 March 5, 2008 it will be a good day when its no longer possible for her to be the next prez. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #5 March 5, 2008 I do kind of enjoy watching the two democratic candidates bicker but I also think the country is in need of a change and the farther Clinton is away from the chance at the presidency the better the chances are for change to occur. That's just my feelings on the issue though. ScottLivin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #6 March 5, 2008 Here's a picture of the bumper sticker on my van.... (c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #7 March 5, 2008 It's funny that if you look on this site Hillary has absolutely no chance. I see no reason why the Americans on here are anything but a random selection of voters, but the results in the voting clearly show she definitely does have a chance, and a good one. If I you re going to vote in the dem primary you have to realize that the dem candidate stands a very good chance of wining the general election. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #8 March 5, 2008 QuoteIf I you re going to vote in the dem primary you have to realize that the dem candidate stands a very good chance of wining the general election. Not if you base it on the assumption that Trophyhusband is making. A repbulican/conservative voter can easily decide that in a State like Ohio or Texas that his vote in the Republican primaries will have little to no affect on the outcome of the republican deligate and in turn declare being a democrat thus allowing some control over who the republican deligate will run against. In Ohio the declaring your party only lasts for 2 years which is when the next primary is... accordingly there is nothing preventing someone from party hopping if that's what they want to do. Of course this is in fact an intellectual discussion and also is a problem inherent in the declaration of a political party.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #9 March 5, 2008 Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goofyjumper 0 #10 March 5, 2008 Quoteit will be a good day when its no longer possible for her to be the next prez. Why do you hate her so much? I see people say anything BUT Hillary, but they give anything BUT reason!----------------- I love and Miss you so much Honey! Orfun #3 ~ Darla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #11 March 5, 2008 As a Brit' it never ceases to amaze me that from a population of more than '42'... you can only find these clowns to run your country for you (actually...... we have a very similar problem) You're fucked. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #12 March 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteIf I you re going to vote in the dem primary you have to realize that the dem candidate stands a very good chance of wining the general election. Not if you base it on the assumption that Trophyhusband is making. A repbulican/conservative voter can easily decide that in a State like Ohio or Texas that his vote in the Republican primaries will have little to no affect on the outcome of the republican deligate and in turn declare being a democrat thus allowing some control over who the republican deligate will run against. In Ohio the declaring your party only lasts for 2 years which is when the next primary is... accordingly there is nothing preventing someone from party hopping if that's what they want to do. Of course this is in fact an intellectual discussion and also is a problem inherent in the declaration of a political party. I understand his reasons for voting in the primary, but I am cautioning him about supporting the devil who is harassing the demon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #13 March 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteit will be a good day when its no longer possible for her to be the next prez. Why do you hate her so much? I see people say anything BUT Hillary, but they give anything BUT reason! A search would show several instances - whether you feel those reasons are valid, is, of course, an individual determination.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #14 March 5, 2008 QuoteI understand his reasons for voting in the primary, but I am cautioning him about supporting the devil who is harassing the demon.I don't think trophyhusband actually said that this is what he did... he was merely inquiring whether it was ethically sound to do so. and I know that some believe that having Hillary run against McCain will only strengthen McCain's chances of becoming president... Personally I don't like the idea of her being within reach of the presidency.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #15 March 5, 2008 Things to consider: 1. Slightly over 50% of the voting age population is female. 2. The population in general is pissed off with the GOP. 3. The party holding the White House is always punished in elections when the economy is bad. 4. The likelihood of a dramatic turn around in the economy by November is remote.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #16 March 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteit will be a good day when its no longer possible for her to be the next prez. Why do you hate her so much? I see people say anything BUT Hillary, but they give anything BUT reason! i don't like her. she's more of a machine than a human. everything she does is cold and calculating with the end goal of her gaining power. she is now trying to change the rules she agreed to in order to get the delegates from florida seated. i feel she's a horrible person and doesn't give one shit about this country. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #17 March 5, 2008 << cold and calculating ...>> Not necassarily a bad thing in and of it's self. <> VERY bad thing. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #18 March 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteIf I you re going to vote in the dem primary you have to realize that the dem candidate stands a very good chance of wining the general election. Not if you base it on the assumption that Trophyhusband is making. A repbulican/conservative voter can easily decide that in a State like Ohio or Texas that his vote in the Republican primaries will have little to no affect on the outcome of the republican deligate and in turn declare being a democrat thus allowing some control over who the republican deligate will run against. In Ohio the declaring your party only lasts for 2 years which is when the next primary is... accordingly there is nothing preventing someone from party hopping if that's what they want to do. Of course this is in fact an intellectual discussion and also is a problem inherent in the declaration of a political party. I understand his reasons for voting in the primary, but I am cautioning him about supporting the devil who is harassing the demon. idaho's democratic caucus is already over so i couldn't jump parties and vote for hillary if i wanted to. i'm interested in people's opinions of the ethics of such a manuver and also to a lessor extent the stratigic ramifications. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #19 March 5, 2008 QuoteThings to consider: 1. Slightly over 50% of the voting age population is female. 2. The population in general is pissed off with the GOP. 3. The party holding the White House is always punished in elections when the economy is bad. 4. The likelihood of a dramatic turn around in the economy by November is remote. absolutely, which is why i would be cautious about such a tactic. how would you feel, as a democrat, if enough republicans tainted the vote enough by jumping parties to put forth a different candidate than the democrats chose? is it all fair game? "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #20 March 5, 2008 Well, I was addressing the strategic ramifications. As far as the ethical considerations, I do not believe there are any. As long as your ultimate strategy is to affect the choice of president in favour of your view of the USA, and you are acting within the constitution, then you are acting as you should. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #21 March 5, 2008 Two years ago in Alberta there was a leadership contest for the ruling (conservative) party; the winner became premier without a general election. After the first round a very conservative fundementalist Christian was in a strong position to win. The movers and shakers of the Liberal and Socialist parties encouraged their supporters to join the Tories and vote against this guy in the second round a few weeks later. The Tories discussed the tactical drawbacks of their selection system, but no one ever questioned these peoples right to to do it. In a democracy we don't kill people to gain power; after that pretty much everything else is fair ball. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #22 March 5, 2008 Quoteshould republicans re-register as dems to vote for hillary? If they want to, sure. Quoteis there something dishonest about it? Sure there is. Are you honest? Quotei don't think i can do it just on the off-chance that she did win the primary and the general, i would feel resonsible for helping her get to the white house. That's a good reason. I'm guessing those Republicans who do re-register Dem are doing so on the assumption McCain will have a better chance at winning the November election against Hillary than Barack. Whether the GOP likes him or not, McCain is their best chance at keeping the office. Very simply it seems swing voters (Independents, left-leaning righties, right-leaning lefties) are more like to vote for McCain vs. Clinton than McCain vs. Obama. McCain obviously needs the swingers to win in November. There is a lot of "history in the making" in this election. It doesn't seem so far-fetched for a Republican to win in November. I hope one does.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #23 March 5, 2008 Quote<> To that end, she's a Karma-karma karma-karma karma Cham-e-leee-onnn . . . . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #24 March 5, 2008 or as we say over here A politician (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #25 March 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteThings to consider: 1. Slightly over 50% of the voting age population is female. 2. The population in general is pissed off with the GOP. 3. The party holding the White House is always punished in elections when the economy is bad. 4. The likelihood of a dramatic turn around in the economy by November is remote. absolutely, which is why i would be cautious about such a tactic. how would you feel, as a democrat, if enough republicans tainted the vote enough by jumping parties to put forth a different candidate than the democrats chose? is it all fair game? It's the system they chose. PS the ONLY party I ever joined (Life Member) is The Conservative Party. The stupid things one does when one is young!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
