Andrewwhyte 1 #1 March 4, 2008 "Talking to God were you Moses? Sure you were." http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/080304/oddities/israel_religion_offbeat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #2 March 4, 2008 QuoteHigh on Mount Sinai, Moses was on psychedelic drugs when he heard God deliver the Ten Commandments . . . Moses was probably also on drugs when he saw the "burning bush,". . . That's what I've always suspected. (If it happened at all.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #3 March 4, 2008 Link to the primary data? My hypothesis -- purely speculative -- has been more along the lines of low blood sugar while in the desert-induced visions. /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #4 March 4, 2008 QuoteLink to the primary data? /Marg Time and Mind Journal. Not on line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #5 March 4, 2008 He probably heard a sonic boom as a burning meteor fell into a dried up piece of sagebrush. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #6 March 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteHigh on Mount Sinai, Moses was on psychedelic drugs when he heard God deliver the Ten Commandments . . . Moses was probably also on drugs when he saw the "burning bush,". . . That's what I've always suspected. (If it happened at all.) It's interesting how many of the most famous events appear to have actually happened, and how. The parting of the Red Sea may well have happened similar to how it was explained - but the cause was a spring tide and a shallow sand bar that was temporarily exposed. California has a few races that are scheduled for these tides - you can run on sections of the beach that are accessible 0-2 days a year and only for an hour or two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #7 March 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteHigh on Mount Sinai, Moses was on psychedelic drugs when he heard God deliver the Ten Commandments . . . Moses was probably also on drugs when he saw the "burning bush,". . . That's what I've always suspected. (If it happened at all.) My "History of AntiSemitism" professor first pointed out me that Moses ate a mushroom. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #8 March 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteHigh on Mount Sinai, Moses was on psychedelic drugs when he heard God deliver the Ten Commandments . . . Moses was probably also on drugs when he saw the "burning bush,". . . That's what I've always suspected. (If it happened at all.) My "History of AntiSemitism" professor first pointed out me that Moses ate a mushroom. So Moses was one of the Mario bros? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #9 March 4, 2008 Yes. And he had a pet badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #10 March 4, 2008 Moses: Oh no! They have set us up the bomb! God: All your base are belong to us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #11 March 4, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L940yIeVZzE&feature=related My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #12 March 4, 2008 That movie is spectacular. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #13 March 4, 2008 Quote Quote Link to the primary data? Time and Mind Journal. “Biblical Entheogens: a Speculative Hypothesis,” Time & Mind, Volume 1, Number 1, March 2008, pp. 51-74. Abstract: “A speculative hypothesis is presented according to which the ancient Israelite religion was associated with the use of entheogens (mind-altering plants used in sacramental contexts). The hypothesis is based on a new look at texts of the Old Testament pertaining to the life of Moses. The ideas entertained here were primarily based on the fact that in the arid areas of the Sinai peninsula and Southern Israel there grow two plants containing the same psychoactive molecules found in the plants from which the powerful Amazonian hallucinogenic brew Ayahuasca is prepared. The two plants are species of Acacia tree and the bush Peganum harmala. The hypothesis is corroborated by comparative experiential-phenomenological observations, linguistic considerations, exegesis of old Jewish texts and other ancient Mideastern traditions, anthropological lore, and ethnobotanical data.” Full text pdf is free. [Lawrocket & Freeflychile – 12 mushroom and 1 badger reference in the article.] ---- ----- ----- It’s like “In Search Of – the Journal.” I almost expected a guest editorial from Leonard Nimoy. Remember watching re-runs of that w/my mom as a little kid. /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #14 March 5, 2008 I bow to your superior research skills. All I got to was a page telling me to buy it or piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #15 March 5, 2008 Quote I bow to your superior research skills. All I got to was a page telling me to buy it or piss off. Naw ... just toss over some virtual chocolate. I'm just a primary data addict & a huge advocate of open source (OSINT). /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #16 March 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteHigh on Mount Sinai, Moses was on psychedelic drugs when he heard God deliver the Ten Commandments . . . Moses was probably also on drugs when he saw the "burning bush,". . . That's what I've always suspected. (If it happened at all.) It's interesting how many of the most famous events appear to have actually happened, and how. The parting of the Red Sea may well have happened similar to how it was explained - but the cause was a spring tide and a shallow sand bar that was temporarily exposed. California has a few races that are scheduled for these tides - you can run on sections of the beach that are accessible 0-2 days a year and only for an hour or two. Then there is the whole flood thing. I read quite some time ago that most flood myths are probably grounded in the creation of the Mediteranean; when the Isthmus of Gibraltor would have gave way and resulted in the filling of the Mediteranean Basin. I never did follow up by searching for geologic sciences information on how long the Mediteranean has been wet." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #17 March 5, 2008 Quote Then there is the whole flood thing. I read quite some time ago that most flood myths are probably grounded in the creation of the Mediteranean; when the Isthmus of Gibraltor would have gave way and resulted in the filling of the Mediteranean Basin. I never did follow up by searching for geologic sciences information on how long the Mediteranean has been wet. I thought it was the flooding of the Black Sea when the straights of Bosphorous was created at Istanbul. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #18 March 5, 2008 Uh-oh. Dueling Flood Theory theories. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #19 March 5, 2008 Quote Uh-oh. Dueling Flood Theory theories. Read my sig line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #20 March 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteHigh on Mount Sinai, Moses was on psychedelic drugs when he heard God deliver the Ten Commandments . . . Moses was probably also on drugs when he saw the "burning bush,". . . That's what I've always suspected. (If it happened at all.) It's interesting how many of the most famous events appear to have actually happened, and how. The parting of the Red Sea may well have happened similar to how it was explained - but the cause was a spring tide and a shallow sand bar that was temporarily exposed. California has a few races that are scheduled for these tides - you can run on sections of the beach that are accessible 0-2 days a year and only for an hour or two. Then there is the whole flood thing. I read quite some time ago that most flood myths are probably grounded in the creation of the Mediteranean; when the Isthmus of Gibraltor would have gave way and resulted in the filling of the Mediteranean Basin. I never did follow up by searching for geologic sciences information on how long the Mediteranean has been wet. Well, it was already wet the first time I was there.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #21 March 5, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote High on Mount Sinai, Moses was on psychedelic drugs when he heard God deliver the Ten Commandments . . . Moses was probably also on drugs when he saw the "burning bush,". . . That's what I've always suspected. (If it happened at all.) It's interesting how many of the most famous events appear to have actually happened, and how. The parting of the Red Sea may well have happened similar to how it was explained - but the cause was a spring tide and a shallow sand bar that was temporarily exposed. California has a few races that are scheduled for these tides - you can run on sections of the beach that are accessible 0-2 days a year and only for an hour or two. Then there is the whole flood thing. I read quite some time ago that most flood myths are probably grounded in the creation of the Mediteranean; when the Isthmus of Gibraltor would have gave way and resulted in the filling of the Mediteranean Basin. I never did follow up by searching for geologic sciences information on how long the Mediteranean has been wet. Well, it was already wet the first time I was there. Took a stroll across it da?" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #22 March 5, 2008 QuoteThen there is the whole flood thingAren't we being warned about it everyday? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #23 March 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteThen there is the whole flood thingAren't we being warned about it everyday? Yeah, but that is the soaker-hose version. We're talking about an event of Bilblical proportions." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #24 March 5, 2008 Quote We're talking about an event of Bilblical proportions. Biblical as in we can't ascertain with any real degree of specificity as to what actually happened? So is this biblical? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3144840;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #25 March 6, 2008 So what is the point of this thread? A bunch of atheists ruminating about events they think didn't happen, but in case they did, are presenting theories on how they could have occurred, while missing the message why the event was even reiterated in the first place. Why don't you spend your intellectual prowess on how the primordial goo first formed DNA strands from organic hydrocarbons etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
