freethefly 6 #1 March 4, 2008 What dickbags these asswipes are. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlCiUMoFu84 This is exactly what makes everyone who is doing good look bad. They should be court martialed."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #2 March 4, 2008 You just balancing the books against Darius11's post? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #3 March 4, 2008 Looks like the $3K+ I've donated to AIDS research over the years was a fucking waste. Have a good life, BIT..... "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #4 March 4, 2008 QuoteLooks like the $3K+ I've donated to AIDS research over the years was a fucking waste. Have a good life, BIT..... Just what, exactly, is that suppose to mean? Are you wishing me death?"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #5 March 4, 2008 QuoteYou just balancing the books against Darius11's post? Didn't see his post until now. But, do you not think that there is something wrong in the heads of people who get enjoyment out of harming a defenseless animal? What is worst is they do these things and then post it on the web for the world to see. I really hope their commander sees it and bring charges against them. These guys are just screwed up and it puts a bad light on those who are doing the right thing."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zarkon 0 #6 March 4, 2008 There's been posts all over the net over this video. Some say it's fake, and I hope that's the case. Either way it's disgusting. There's also many posts of the soldiers personal information and who to contact for complaints. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #7 March 4, 2008 You just balancing the books against Darius11's post? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteDidn't see his post until now. But, do you not think that there is something wrong in the heads of people who get enjoyment out of harming a defenseless animal? What is worst is they do these things and then post it on the web for the world to see. I really hope their commander sees it and bring charges against them. These guys are just screwed up and it puts a bad light on those who are doing the right thing. Sorry. The timing just seemed perfect. Actually, the guy needed a rifle butt to the face. Just two threads at the opposite ends of the spectrum, both making me want to cry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #8 March 4, 2008 I watched the video a few times, and I really can't tell whether or not it's photoshoped. What was even more disturbing than the actual video, was some of the comments that people left on it. Something about Youtube - some of the biggest morons in the world post there...=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #9 March 4, 2008 Quotethere is something wrong in the heads of people who get enjoyment out of harming a defenseless animal Indeed, there is, according to numerous psychiatric studies. ZippO might be interested to know animal cruelty has been proven to desensitize people to human suffering & violence against humans. Link between violence to people and violence to animals. Facts about animal abuse and domestic violence. More connections between animal cruelty and human violence. Article discussing serial killers & their histories of animal cruelty.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #10 March 4, 2008 QuoteYou just balancing the books against Darius11's post? If that was balance then here's the anvil: Soldiers blow up dog, find it funny http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a4b_1198349822 soldiers blow up another dog, find it funny http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1be_1204379225&p=1 Here is a bbc docu. where a soldier kills a dog, a longer version exist, shows the dogs owner coming out visibly upset, nothing he can do, he has a heavily armed invading army in his backyard. http://youtube.com/watch?v=wj32twJXxsY& Soldiers, tormenting a dog... http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fy_BSksdvAM Soldiers shoot another dog http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=54e_1182844511 Soldiers throw grenade at sheepherder/sheep and find it funny http://youtube.com/watch?v=ULcj-Epr1rI& Soldier shoots yet another dog http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a5ee2d6eb killing civilians in front of their children http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSTI3Ast45Q scaring an injured puppy repeatedly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK2BTt9_YJk blowing up a kitten and cheering http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=64d_1199566522&p=1 These are all copied and pasted from another forum where I found the info posted: http://digg.com/people/US_Soldier_throws_puppy_off_cliff_(video)"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #11 March 4, 2008 I don’t know maybe I am just getting softer as I age. I truly believe we have a lot more good people then bad. I will never blindly support someone because of a sense of camaraderie I know better, but I believe we usually hear about the bad because it is simply more entertaining and more unusual. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #12 March 4, 2008 Press release from Marine Corps Base Hawaii: “Internet video of Marine mistreating puppy “MARINE CORPS BASE HAWAII, Oahu -- The video of a Marine mistreating a puppy gained widespread attention on the internet today. The video is shocking and deplorable and is contrary to the high standards we expect of every Marine. "This video came to our attention this morning, and we have initiated an investigation. We do not tolerate this type of behavior and will take appropriate action. "The vast majority of Marines conduct their duties in an honorable manner that brings great credit upon the Marine Corps and the United States. There have been numerous stories of Marines adopting pets and bringing them home from Iraq or helping to arrange life-saving medical care for Iraqi children. Those are the stories that exemplify what we stand for and how most Marines behave.” Longer article from Marine Corps Times, which is a commercial publication not officially associated w/the USMC or DOD; each service has its own version. excerpt: “Marine officials on Hawaii have also been unable to confirm that the rifleman based at Kaneohe Bay is the Marine shown in the pixilated, undated video. “‘We’re still looking into it. We’re trying to confirm that this is our Marine,’ said Maj. Chris Perrine, a spokesman for 3rd Marine Division on Hawaii.” FOX News article: excerpt: “The authenticity of the clip, which has been viewed more than 145,000 times since it was uploaded onto file-sharing Web site YouTube in the last two days, has not been verified — although forum members and bloggers have been frantically trying to track down details of the soldier. “‘Certainly there's a lot of outrage and a lot of people are upset about it. I think every Marine is upset about this video,’ [MAJ Chris] Perrine said. ‘We will investigate and take appropriate action and make sure our Marine is safe as well.’ “‘That is mistreatment of a puppy. That is a violation of anybody's standards, and the Marine Corps sets extremely high standards.’ “Perrine said it appears that the man in the video is a lance corporal based with a unit in the Hawaiian islands. But his actions weren't characteristic of those of most men and women who serve, Perrine added. “‘The vast majority of Marines conduct their duties in an honorable manner that brings great credit upon the Marine Corps and the United States,’ he said. ‘There have been numerous stories of Marines adopting pets and bringing them home from Iraq or helping to arrange life-saving medical care for Iraqi children.’ “‘Those are the stories that exemplify what we stand for and how most Marines behave.’” Both the Marine Corps Times and Fox News stories provide links to the video, which is no longer available via OP YouTube link. If the video is legitimate -- beyond the objection to the behavior -- it was doubly *stupid*: (1) to do it while in uniform and (2) to ‘video’ it. VR/Marg [Edit: to correct subject line.] Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zarkon 0 #13 March 4, 2008 Quote I watched the video a few times, and I really can't tell whether or not it's photoshoped. What was even more disturbing than the actual video, was some of the comments that people left on it. Something about Youtube - some of the biggest morons in the world post there... People on Youtube just troll and flame like anywhere else. They just do it to get a rise out of people, I don't even bother reading them 99% of the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #14 June 12, 2008 Lance Cpl David Motari has been subjected to unspecified non-judicial punishment and is now being discharged for this. CNN story Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #15 June 12, 2008 I hope his "unspecified" punishment is getting his punk ass thrown off a cliff like he did to that dog. Fucking piece of shit. ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #16 June 12, 2008 QuoteI hope his "unspecified" punishment is getting his punk ass thrown off a cliff like he did to that dog. Fucking piece of shit. Probably in the brig if not Leavenworth. My bet is on the latter. Friend of mine spent a year in Leavenworth and was subsequently kicked out for doing much less.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #17 June 13, 2008 I was wondering if the film was real or not. I guess it was. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #18 June 13, 2008 Quote I was wondering if the film was real or not. I guess it was. That was my thought process too. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #19 June 13, 2008 QuoteI hope his "unspecified" punishment is getting his punk ass thrown off a cliff like he did to that dog. Fucking piece of shit. Non-judicial punishment typically refers to loss of rank, loss of pay, restriction and extra duty, in some combination.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #20 June 13, 2008 QuoteQuoteI hope his "unspecified" punishment is getting his punk ass thrown off a cliff like he did to that dog. Fucking piece of shit. Non-judicial punishment typically refers to loss of rank, loss of pay, restriction and extra duty, in some combination. What he said. And for the guy who said something about Leavenworth, if he were headed there (or any brig), they wouldn't be discharging him yet. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #21 June 13, 2008 QuoteQuoteYou just balancing the books against Darius11's post? If that was balance then here's the anvil: Soldiers blow up dog, find it funny http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a4b_1198349822 soldiers blow up another dog, find it funny http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1be_1204379225&p=1 Here is a bbc docu. where a soldier kills a dog, a longer version exist, shows the dogs owner coming out visibly upset, nothing he can do, he has a heavily armed invading army in his backyard. http://youtube.com/watch?v=wj32twJXxsY& Soldiers, tormenting a dog... http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fy_BSksdvAM Soldiers shoot another dog http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=54e_1182844511 Soldiers throw grenade at sheepherder/sheep and find it funny http://youtube.com/watch?v=ULcj-Epr1rI& Soldier shoots yet another dog http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a5ee2d6eb killing civilians in front of their children http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSTI3Ast45Q scaring an injured puppy repeatedly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK2BTt9_YJk blowing up a kitten and cheering http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=64d_1199566522&p=1 These are all copied and pasted from another forum where I found the info posted: http://digg.com/people/US_Soldier_throws_puppy_off_cliff_(video) I am utterly ashamed of my countrymen. These men have no honor and should not be representing us in foreign lands, especially under the guise of "liberators". With completely fucked up dipshits like this, it's no wonder some of the locals turn to guerilla tactics to thin our presence. How are they to know which are the good guys and which are the sadists? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #22 June 13, 2008 fucking shitbags. I guess when we try to garrison the entire planet & start optional wars, we have to compromise on the morals of SOME of the people we recruit who will go along with it all. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #23 June 13, 2008 I am somewhat saddened that the abuse of a dog draws less outrage here than the abuse, torture and murder of prisoners. It is amazing to me that a video that shows the harming an animal results in comments along the lines of "he should be thrown off a cliff", and that pictures and coroner's reports of humans being harmed results in excuses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #24 June 13, 2008 QuoteI am somewhat saddened that the abuse of a dog draws less outrage here than the abuse, torture and murder of prisoners. It is amazing to me that a video that shows the harming an animal results in comments along the lines of "he should be thrown off a cliff", and that pictures and coroner's reports of humans being harmed results in excuses. I've objected strongly to what pictures of such acts that I've seen. I've tried to withhold judgement (sometimes unsuccessfully) on those things which I've only heard one side of. Rest assured that if someone posted a link with a video of one of our guys treating a human like this, I'd be at least as vocal as I have here, and likely more. The closest I remember seeing included something that was reported as British soldiers raping a young girl and something else of Iraqi civilians stoning a teenage girl. Both offended me deeply. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #25 June 13, 2008 QuoteI am somewhat saddened that the abuse of a dog draws less outrage here than the abuse, torture and murder of prisoners. It is amazing to me that a video that shows the harming an animal results in comments along the lines of "he should be thrown off a cliff", and that pictures and coroner's reports of humans being harmed results in excuses. Thanks for posting that. Appreciate the reminder. The veil of potential culpability, which goes back to Aquinas, iirc: most humans are cognizant that puppies aren’t intentionally doing anything wrong. (There are sick bastards who claim delusionally that dogs, cats, small children are intentionally provoking them & "deserve" to be beaten abused.) Trying to not trivialize … but a more concise analogy is not occurring this morning … until the fictional character Jack Bauer on tv's 24 tortures a puppy and “obtains vital information,” some folks will continue to dismiss, to excuse, to rationalize, to ignore the available counter-evidence, or even to argue the necessity for the type of behavior you note. Then puppies will be subject to suspicion of culpability in some folks minds and arguments. VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
