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Hmmm - haven't heard THAT word in a long time.

$US hit record low yesterday.

All that borrowing and warmongering coming home to roost?
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Hmmm - haven't heard THAT word in a long time.

$US hit record low yesterday.

All that borrowing and warmongering coming home to roost?



Look at it this way. In late spring, we are all going to recieve free money! To me, that's insane! Here we are, with probably the worst national debt... ever and the government wants to give everyone free money to kick-start the economy. What are the mental giants in Washington thinking?
It's time to clean house in Washington and get some 'new blood' in there.


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There is no crisis. Free markets regulate themselves. The worthless dollar is good for exports.
US unemployment is lower than Canada and Europe.
Our debt is not that big when you consider our GDP. Deficits are good!! Lower taxes magically generate more money for the government. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

I just thought I'd get that out of the way. You know it's coming anyway.

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You know it's coming anyway.



EXACTLY!!!

Lets just make sure that you and I meet each other befor SHTF so we dont shoot at each other during our survival days!!!;)


Hey, Bush told us there would be no recession. However, his lips were moving when he said it.

In other news:

NEW YORK (AP) — Stocks fell sharply Friday after a series of economic and earnings reports and a further rise in oil prices stoked concerns about the health of economy. The Dow Jones industrial average fell more than 200 points, or more than 1.5 percent.

Investors grew unnerved by weak quarterly showings from American International Group Inc. and Dell Inc. An index of regional business activity that Wall Street regards as a precursor to a report due next week registered its weakest reading in more than six years.

Adding to Wall Street's list of worries, oil prices continued to stir concern about inflation after topping $103 per barrel overnight for the first time.

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NEW YORK (AP) — Stocks fell sharply Friday after a series of economic and earnings reports and a further rise in oil prices stoked concerns about the health of economy. The Dow Jones industrial average fell more than 200 points, or more than 1.5 percent.



If you're going to post every 1.5% decline, shouldn't you do the same for every increase? The early part of the week was strongly up. Given the way it's been lately, no surprise to see it decline at the end of the week.

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NEW YORK (AP) — Stocks fell sharply Friday after a series of economic and earnings reports and a further rise in oil prices stoked concerns about the health of economy. The Dow Jones industrial average fell more than 200 points, or more than 1.5 percent.



If you're going to post every 1.5% decline, shouldn't you do the same for every increase? The early part of the week was strongly up. Given the way it's been lately, no surprise to see it decline at the end of the week.



Well, we are at the same level now that we were at in April 07, so it did go up, and right back down to where it was a year ago.

BTW now -2.4%.

With this screwy market we will probably finish up for the day. It's seemingly not connected to reality anymore.

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NEW YORK (AP) — Stocks fell sharply Friday after a series of economic and earnings reports and a further rise in oil prices stoked concerns about the health of economy. The Dow Jones industrial average fell more than 200 points, or more than 1.5 percent.



If you're going to post every 1.5% decline, shouldn't you do the same for every increase? The early part of the week was strongly up. Given the way it's been lately, no surprise to see it decline at the end of the week.


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Well, we are at the same level now that we were at in April 07, so it did go up, and right back down to where it was a year ago.

BTW now -2.4%.



The S&P500 is currently at the same level as end of September 2001

What breathtaking economic progress over the last 6.5 years ...


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BTW now -2.4%.

With this screwy market we will probably finish up for the day. It's seemingly not connected to reality anymore.



Had to check - I'm happy to see that my paycheck driven purchases are effective at end of day, not beginning.

I wonder if the 401k deductions have any impact on the daily noise. Some are every two weeks while others are twice a week, but seems like it should add up, esp when the two cycles are in sync.

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Well, we are at the same level now that we were at in April 07, so it did go up, and right back down to where it was a year ago.

BTW now -2.4%.



The S&P500 is currently at the same level as end of September 2001

What breathtaking economic progress over the last 6.5 years ...


Cheers, T



And the NASADAQ is at half the level it was in 2000.

The S&P peaked in March, 2000, then lost half of its value when the dot-com bubble burst - in a two year span. It has since regained.


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The S&P500 is currently at the same level as end of September 2001



And the NASADAQ is at half the level it was in 2000.



i chose the Sept 2001 mark since that already factored in most of the usual excuses (9/11, .com-bubble, Clinton in general, ...)
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The S&P500 is currently at the same level as end of September 2001



And the NASADAQ is at half the level it was in 2000.



i chose the Sept 2001 mark since that already factored in most of the usual excuses (9/11, .com-bubble, Clinton in general, ...)



But if you want to factor in 9/11, you have to take the price after 9/11 took full effect on the markets. The better comparison would be with Oct 4, 2002, when the S&P was at 800. It's still up 66% since then.

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The S&P500 is currently at the same level as end of September 2001



And the NASADAQ is at half the level it was in 2000.



i chose the Sept 2001 mark since that already factored in most of the usual excuses (9/11, .com-bubble, Clinton in general, ...)



But if you want to factor in 9/11, you have to take the price after 9/11 took full effect on the markets. The better comparison would be with Oct 4, 2002, when the S&P was at 800. It's still up 66% since then.



None of these numbers mean anything unless the purchasing power of the $US is accounted for.

Oil in 2001 - $27/bbl
Oil in 2008 - $103/bbl


1 Euro in 2001 - $0.94
1 Euro in 2008 - $1.52

Bush's policies, both foreign and domestic, have been an unmitigated economic disaster
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The S&P500 is currently at the same level as end of September 2001



And the NASADAQ is at half the level it was in 2000.



i chose the Sept 2001 mark since that already factored in most of the usual excuses (9/11, .com-bubble, Clinton in general, ...)



But if you want to factor in 9/11, you have to take the price after 9/11 took full effect on the markets. The better comparison would be with Oct 4, 2002, when the S&P was at 800. It's still up 66% since then.



None of these numbers mean anything unless the purchasing power of the $US is accounted for.

Oil in 2001 - $27/bbl
Oil in 2008 - $103/bbl


1 Euro in 2001 - $0.94
1 Euro in 2008 - $1.52

Bush's policies, both foreign and domestic, have been an unmitigated economic disaster



Who's defending Bush? Jeez, I thought I was I just pointing out the appropriate economic low point to compare against.

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The S&P500 is currently at the same level as end of September 2001



And the NASADAQ is at half the level it was in 2000.



i chose the Sept 2001 mark since that already factored in most of the usual excuses (9/11, .com-bubble, Clinton in general, ...)



But if you want to factor in 9/11, you have to take the price after 9/11 took full effect on the markets. The better comparison would be with Oct 4, 2002, when the S&P was at 800. It's still up 66% since then.



None of these numbers mean anything unless the purchasing power of the $US is accounted for.

Oil in 2001 - $27/bbl
Oil in 2008 - $103/bbl


1 Euro in 2001 - $0.94
1 Euro in 2008 - $1.52

Bush's policies, both foreign and domestic, have been an unmitigated economic disaster



Who's defending Bush? Jeez, I thought I was I just pointing out the appropriate economic low point to compare against.



Didn't say you were, you're too smart for that; just making an observation.

1 UK pound in 2001 - $1.43
1 UK pound in 2008 - $1.98
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The S&P500 is currently at the same level as end of September 2001



And the NASADAQ is at half the level it was in 2000.



i chose the Sept 2001 mark since that already factored in most of the usual excuses (9/11, .com-bubble, Clinton in general, ...)



But if you want to factor in 9/11, you have to take the price after 9/11 took full effect on the markets. The better comparison would be with Oct 4, 2002, when the S&P was at 800. It's still up 66% since then.



the down spike of 9/11 was recovered after about 2 weeks. As much as 9/11 was a tragedy -- in huge economy like the US with a $14Triliion GPD the attacks themselves and the destruction of a handful of buildings is a drop in the bucket.

in October 2002 war was looming already -- and what stock markets hate even more than war itself is the uncertainty of a war on the horizon. Of course if you say the war was a necessary consequence of 9/11 you can say 9/11 indirectly caused the baisse following late 2002 -- personally, I consider the 9/11->Iraq implication as rubbish.


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