Nader at it again!

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WASHINGTON (AP) - Ralph Nader is launching a third-party campaign for president.


The consumer advocate made the announcement Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press." He says most Americans are disenchanted with the Democratic and Republican parties, and that none of the presidential contenders are addressing ways to stem corporate crime and Pentagon waste and promote labor rights.

Nader also ran as a third-party candidate in the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections. He is still loathed by many Democrats who call him a spoiler and claim his candidacy in 2000 cost the party the election by siphoning votes away from Al Gore in a razor-thin contest in Florida.

How many times does his man have to run before he sees his approval rating on what he stands for are extremely low? It is his right to run but damn! I have been to places where I could tell I wasn't really welcomed so I showed myself the door. Maybe he should do the same.

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Maybe it will encourage Ron Paul to run again and it will be a push.

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Maybe it will encourage Ron Paul to run again

Oh what a great combo! Combine their votes and they might squeeze out 3% of the vote on election day.

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[Andrewwhyte 1]

It kind of shows the wisdom of the French system; first round you vote for the person you really wish would win, second round you face reality and vote for the prick you hate the least.

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Maybe it will encourage Ron Paul to run again

Oh what a great combo! Combine their votes and they might squeeze out 3% of the vote on election day.

I'd take either one over what options we have now. Maybe throw Ross Perot in the mix too!Yes. I am an "Angry White Man"

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I'd take either one over what options we have now.

I feel like I am in that episode of South Park when they had the election and the choice was a Dousche Bag or a Turd Sandwich. None of these asswhipes give me a warm and fuzzy. I cannot believe this is the best we got to run for office.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

[rushmc 23]

Serious question here.

Which party will he take votes from. And I know he would get some from both but, which party canidate would he hurt?

This year I am not sure I really have an idea.

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Serious question here.

Which party will he take votes from. And I know he would get some from both but, which party canidate would he hurt?

This year I am not sure I really have an idea.

He would absolutely hurt Obama the most. Obama gets a lot of support from the unions; Nader is big on labour rights. Obama is the candidate of stickin' it to the man; Nader is all about stickin' it to the man. Obama is questioning free trade; Nader is very much anti-free trade.
Ralph Nader running because Obama isn't anti-establishment enough for him is like Jesse Jackson running because Obama isn't black enough for him.

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Serious question here.

Which party will he take votes from. And I know he would get some from both but, which party canidate would he hurt?

This year I am not sure I really have an idea.

He would absolutely hurt Obama the most. Obama gets a lot of support from the unions; Nader is big on labour rights. Obama is the candidate of stickin' it to the man; Nader is all about stickin' it to the man. Obama is questioning free trade; Nader is very much anti-free trade.
Ralph Nader running because Obama isn't anti-establishment enough for him is like Jesse Jackson running because Obama isn't black enough for him.

Interesting. Probably true. Thanks

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Ralph Nader running because ...

same reason as McCain -- 2008 is the last chance to make a stand before the bio clock runs out.

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Ralph Nader running because ...

same reason as McCain -- 2008 is the last chance to make a stand before the bio clock runs out.

Cheers, T

Ralph Nader is running because he simply cannot bear the thought of being out of the national conversation every few years.

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Ralph Nader running because ...

same reason as McCain -- 2008 is the last chance to make a stand before the bio clock runs out.

Cheers, T

I'm sure that's part of it, but I also suspect he is wanting to get a policy concession from the Democratic nominee in exchange for dropping out of the race and giving an endorsement.

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I'm sure that's part of it, but I also suspect he is wanting to get a policy concession from the Democratic nominee in exchange for dropping out of the race and giving an endorsement.

There's no negotiation at this point - not from the nominee given the history of Florida in 2000, and not from Nader, who doesn't consider the interests of the Party whatsoever.

I don't see many votes for him from either party. He had his moment, though not a very successful one. He was one of the many deciders that tipped 2000 to Bush, and yet the Democratic Party still hasn't made changes to keep him from running again in 04 or 08.

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There's no negotiation at this point - not from the nominee given the history of Florida in 2000, and not from Nader, who doesn't consider the interests of the Party whatsoever.

While the nominee may not choose to negotiate to keep Nader from staying in, their option indeed remains.

Personally, I consider it one of Nader's strengths that he doesn't put the party's interests before the people's.

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Naer will siphon enought votes from the left to insure that the republicans will win the general election. I've often thought that this is a tool that the right uses when they think the'll lose to the left.

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Naer will siphon enought votes from the left to insure that the republicans will win the general election. I've often thought that this is a tool that the right uses when they think the'll lose to the left.

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Naer will siphon enought votes from the left to insure that the republicans will win the general election. I've often thought that this is a tool that the right uses when they think the'll lose to the left.

So do you think GM is secretly financing him?

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So do you think GM is secretly financing him?

I would love to hear what company is financing him. I cannot see what corporation would give this asshat any money.

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I would love to hear what company is financing him. I cannot see what corporation would give this asshat any money.

Corporations are not generally inclined to support consumer advocates. He's such an asshat for putting consumers ahead of big business.

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On Meet the Press he claimed he would not accept donations from any corporations

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On Meet the Press he claimed he would not accept donations from any corporations

So he plans on standing on a street corner and talk to anyone who passes him? Does he not see how crazy this looks and how he has 0 chance of winning?

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I don't know why he does this every four years. Is he really that rich and doesn't have anything else to spend money on?

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I don't know why he does this every four years. Is he really that rich and doesn't have anything else to spend money on?

Or maybe he just takes his civic responsibility more seriously than most.

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So he plans on standing on a street corner and talk to anyone who passes him? Does he not see how crazy this looks and how he has 0 chance of winning?

Of course he knows he has zero chance of winning. That's not the point for him. He's advocating a viewpoint that the Democrats will not (actively) support. If they keep losing elections, they'll have to adopt some of those platform items.

I just don't think that he'll matter this time. I believe voters in close states will choose to pick the Democrat over McCain, and voters in non competitive states like California will give votes to Nader to make some sort of statement.